madam, secretary. picking cabinet secretaries, what is the most overrated criteria, and what is the most underrated criteria the presidents tend to sec. pritzker: i have no idea. [laughter] i think, in picking time that my advice to a president would be you need balance between someone who can be a messenger, as part of your job. be a negotiator, as part of your job. and the a manager as part of , your job. so, you're looking for people who can effectuate that, but assemble teams that can actually execute it. >> do presidents let people assemble teams, or do they send them a list of people that worked in the campaign or were somehow associated with the administration in some way and "here is a list of people you pick for assistant secretary." does that hamper your ability to pick teams? sec. pritzker: my experience was -- i was given the flexibility, within certain parameters, to assemble the team that we wanted and needed. >> certain parameters being what? sec. pritzker: you know, making sure that we had good gender balance, good diversity, things like that. and that which was actually to the benefit of our department. so those were