joining me is congresswoman madeleine dean, who as you saw, participated in today's hearing as a memberuse judiciary committee. congresswoman, i have to go back and focus in on the what looks like a lie, that president biden could not remember the thing he talks about all the time, which is the tragedy of his son's death. talk about that just for a moment and how that felt in the room to have him really not want to admit that he made that up. >> i have to tell you, when i read the report initially when it was released and we read the report and then reporting on the report, remember, the report starts with this one sentence. we conclude that no criminal charges are warranted in this matter. that really could have been the summation of the report. but he goes on to say that many times. but we said initially, it appeared to me gratuitous that he would throw in this information or his own reading of the president's memory. i'm not sure his expertise in that. i found it particularly irksome and indecent that he would quiz the president on the death of his son, beau biden, from brain cancer.

we want to bring in democratic congressman, we madeleine dean, a member of the house foreign committee. thank you for joining us on this. let's start with these airdrops , if we can. usually airdrops are used in situations in which to avoid hostile actors. technically, israel is an ally of the united states. people in gaza desperately need this aid right now. is there a sense that the president is somewhat losing a grip on his influence over prime minister bibi netanyahu by using these -- instead of getting more trucks into gaza or humanitarian aid? >> i don't think so it all. what i think is that it's a recognition of the desperation on the ground. mr. netanyahu has been dishonest about it. i happen to just come back from israel. we were in tel aviv, we were in the west bank. we were in jerusalem. we met with officials from unrwa, who were on the ground and gaza we, had a meeting with them. these airdrops are so critically important. but they cannot replace what is desperately needed, and what mr. netanyahu is responsible for delivering, and that is the hundreds of trucks of aid. take

but congresswoman madeleine dean in the exchange forced mr. hur to highlight the most important conclusion in this whole thing. in one case biden's you have what seems to be a legitimate mistake followed with full cooperation with law enforcement. and the other, trump's, you have what appears to be criminal the intent of obstruction of justice. and as to illustrate the chasm yesterday we got even more evidence just how intentionally criminal donald trump's actions appear to be. the witnesses f in the classified documents investigation, one of the witnesses came veforward. and up until yesterday we knew this witness only as trump employee 5. cnn is now reporting that his name is brian butler. he was a long-time employee at mar-a-lago, and he witnessed some incredibly damning things like the day that trump flew from florida to bedminster, new jersey. trump's body man and his codefendant, walt nauta, asked mr. butler to get nauta a big suv, an escalade. butler then saw nauta and trump's codefendant, carlos deolive yra load them up and load those

. >>> it proudly continued the democratic tradition here's an exchange with madeleine dean and democrat since the transcript is out i'd like you to correct the record on an important point sadly europe or on page 208 says mr biden couldn't come up with the date the year of his sons but death when in the transcript it shows you asked him the month june know what he said? he said oh, god may 30th would you like to correct the record's memory was pretty firm. >> i don't believe that's risked correct with perspective the transcript but i'd be happy to look. mimic a read about your reporting. >> greg: matt. >> greg: liar, she's not making mistake she's just full of [bleep] asking about joe biden's death but as the transcript from the interview shows it wasn't her who brought it up first it was joe so she hadn't clearly read the transcript like she claimed she lied. then there's this jackass insisting to report exonerated biden. >> the lengthy expensive independent investigation resulted in a complete exoneration of president joe biden. >> greg: let's take note of the word you used exoneratio

biden doesn't have the mental acuity to be president joining me now is democratic congresswoman madeleine dean of pennsylvania, congresswoman, wonderful to see you. thank you so much for being here. >> good to be with you. >> what do you expect today from the special counsel and how do you view this in terms of his decision to put this claim into the the about the president's fitness? >> well, actually, i discount that because the report really is a detailed declination. his decision not to prosecute the president for any wrongdoing in connection with classified documents. that's the takeaway. the gratuitous throwing in of his sympathetic older man with the poor memory. it was completely gratuitous. what i do think we have to focus on and i'm not going to focus on that in my own questioning. is, what did he find about the behavior of vice then vice president biden in terms of classified documents and contrast it completely with what we know about the behavior of the former president donald trump in terms of obstruction taking classified documents back and forth from his properties, taking them