>> yes but madeline keown and my coeditor who has been the governor for vermont and this is an incredible woman politician, she did that more because she is 80 now. when she came into office it was a really big deal that's she liaise with the community. it was controversial and she was making a statement by doing that. she has a daughter happens to be a friend of mine which is a coincidence. those that there's really trying to understand how she could represent your constituents in a meaningful way and be brave in the face of a culture that hadn't changed interrelationship with her daughter and her understanding. most people understand the importance of gay marriage and they understand

>> yes but madeline keown and my coeditor who has been the governor for vermont and this is an incredible woman politician, she did that more because she is 80 now. when she came into office it was a really big deal that's she liaise with the community. it was controversial and she was making a statement by doing that. she has a daughter happens to be a friend of mine which is a coincidence. those that there's really trying to understand how she could represent your constituents in a meaningful way and be brave in the face of a culture that hadn't changed interrelationship with her daughter and her understanding. most people understand the importance of gay marriage and they understand gay people and she shares that essay in the book. >> tell me about finding a publisher. >> the publisher found me so johnny temple is the incredible rock star, literally rock star publisher of caution books. he is a friend and we are both progressive activists in the publishing world that i had done a book a couple of years ago about this project that was working on about abortion and did something actually