thing "madiba" said, oh, mr.permission to tell your story. "madiba" looked at him and said, what's in it for me? ( laughter ) and then he's like, just remember to make sure, when you tell the story, make sure the audience understands it wasn't just me, it was the collective. so it was kathrada, tom bo, becky, anc, the pac, the international community, you know, all of it. >> trevor: i remember the first time someone heard about the story and were shocked, wait, white people went to jail with mandela? yeah,. >> over 100 co-conspirators were on trial every day for four years in pretoria, every day for four years. >> trevor: when you look at what's happening in america now -- >> oh, god, yes. ( laughter ) >> trevor: -- you look at the movements and what people are trying to start from the ground up. >> sure. >> trevor: i guess i have my experiences as a south african, but i only have those. you've delved into the world of south african existence and now seek americans trying to do the same thing. is there any connec

my guest tonight from the new mini-series about nelson mandela, "madiba," lawrence fishburne is here,news from across the pond. >> the british supreme court ruling that the u.k. cannot leave the european union without first getting a vote from parliament. >> this is a big deal. as most calls into question whether brexit will happen. >> if questions throws the united kingdom's exit from the e.u. into some chaos. >> trevor: hold up. there's a chance the u.k. may not have to leave the e.u.? no. i'm sorry. you do not get out of brexit. you do not, no. because brexit inspired everybody else to screw up their own countries! people running around burning down (bleep) chanting brexit brexit brexit! america elected mr. brexit! now you will try to breezle out of it? no! britain's, like, oh, we didn't realize we had a backdoor. no, redidn't realize -- america's like, you mean -- no, we don't. you said we were getting face tattoos. no, i thought it was permanent but it's not. i've got a dick on my face! looks really nice! no! you brexit, britain! get out! we suffer together. ( laughter ) we are s

high note, but we are here to talk about "madiba." >> "madiba," yes. >> so how did you prepare for thist, the more i get that question. i'm kind of like i get more protective. i'm like i'm not telling you about my secret recipe. that's my secret recipe. but, no, i went to south africa about -- for about two weeks before we shot and i met with people that worked for him, people that were in jail with him, a gentleman named ahmed kathrada who was in jail with him on robben island and a woman named zelda who was his personal secretary for the last 20 years of his life, afrikaner woman, and between the two of them and some other people in johannesburg, i was able to get a lot of stuff. >> don't you feel the spirit when you're there. several times. wow. >> it's -- it was life changing to shoot in south africa in locations where all of this history really took place. to learn about the anti-apartheid movement from the beginning all the way to his presidency, our story takes place over six hours, and so you're going to learn a lot more about all of the people that were involved in dismantling

i'll be okay. >> would you all like to see a little bit of "madiba"?alk. we are awaiting your orders, sergeant. >> walk. [ applause ] >> we need this story right now because, you know when nelson mandela came out of imprisonment he could have retaliate. he could advantage angry but he was just the opposite. >> yes, yes, he was -- he was a master statesman, a natural diplomat. you know the most shining example of leadership that perhaps we've seen in centuries and so certainly we need examples like that. >> reconciliation. that's what he was all about. >> superhuman ability to transform anger into something positive. >> yeah and a determination. i asked ahmed who was in jail with him, you know how did they manage to just persevere how many year decades in jail. he said we knew we were right and we knew we were going to win. so the idea that they knew that they were correct, that you know, inequality and prejudice and those kind of things just don't make any sense for all of us is just you know it was really inspiring? >> i'm loving it because we got a l

now, he's playing nelson mandela in "madiba." lifetime. >> a role of a lifetime. one of the greatest honors of my life, i'm sure. a gift. i said yes immediately and then p panicked a little bit. i was taken to south africa by vi black person in nelson mandela's life. met people that worked with him. most of our cast is south african. and we were shooting in place where's the actual history happened. our film is really, really incredible. >> the thing i love about the whole film is, it's about other people's sacrificed and suffered for the freedom. that's something i think is great. that must have been cool to be part of that. >> that's something that mr. mandela wanted, when the producers asked for his blessing. that make sure people know it wasn't just me. it was all kinds of people, fighting to dismantle apartheid. >> it's throwback thursday. i'm going to go social media on >> throwback thursday, people know you were a child actor. my favorite movie, cornbred earl. >> this is why i love you, tamron. >> i own it on vhs. it's all