madison was ambitious.he found hid friend president washington turns away from checks and balances and instead turning towards hamilton's view of cultivating money men and making them a special class. madison was no longer satisfied just to be the leader of a growing congressional opposition. he understood the power of the press, there was at this point only the proadministration vehicle, and he recruited his college roommate, the poet philips fernot, to editor a paper. madison wrote under a pseudonym in the paper, taking on hamilton, and proclaiming the difference of what he said was the real friends of democracy. madison was a sturdy political operative, not merely a political thinker. >> in 1793 when war between england and france placed americans in one of two camps, there was no middle ground. hamilton wrote of madison and jefferson they had a womanism resentment towards england. jefferson spelled out who he thought of his enemy, the armed chair specklator, a species that produced nothing of value. men

madison was ambitious. he found hid friend president washington turns away from checks and balances and instead turning towards hamilton's view of cultivating money men and making them a special class. madison was no longer satisfied just to be the leader of a growing congressional opposition. he understood the power of the press, there was at this point only the proadministration vehicle, and he recruited his college roommate, the poet philips fernot, to editor a paper. madison wrote under a pseudonym in the paper, taking on hamilton, and proclaiming the difference of what he said was the real friends of democracy. madison was a sturdy political operative, not merely a political thinker. >> in 1793 when war between england and france placed americans in one of two camps, there was no middle ground. hamilton wrote of madison and jefferson they had a womanism resentment towards england. jefferson spelled out who he thought of his enemy, the armed chair specklator, a species that produced nothing of value. me

madison was piecey being here a help for you at all?e hit it off in instructional like, we've been good friends, andal ways in the same page out there in games, and i trust him a hundred did percent. whatever he puts down, i constituent to throw, and besides that, he's a great catcher. >> madison, did you ever further figure out what happened to your velocity back in march and april, and how you were able to bring it back to seemingly the level it was at a couple of years ago now? >> i guess it was just mechanics a little bit off. we made adjustments throughout the year, and about halfway through the year, got back to where i felt i needed to be. just a little timing issue for me. >> and over to the right? >> madison, did you make taken attempt to persuade your manager to to leave you back in for the 9th. >> no, i let them make the decisions. i just pitch until they tell me i'm done. >> you guys obviously one win away from the championship. how exciting is it to think that, you know, this is the kind of thing you guys could do for a whi

sometimes madison had to quiet him down. madison had one particular dislike, that was john adams. he detested adams for years and years. and this was the one cantankerous member of the founding foundation that jefferson was always ready to make amends with. there's another interesting triangular relationship there. >> yeah, i think in terms of madison's view towards the people, this is one the things we had trouble understanding. he wasn't anticipating democracy. and, you know, one the debates that he carries on in the federalist papers has to -- as an unanimous writer in new york and believes they have to be closely influenced. madison was uncomfortable with that. based on his observations of what had gone on in virginia. he basically felt that have there -- what he really wanted, the constitution to do and the new government to do was to create a system that would filter legislation. remove impurities, remove the mistakes, and when he writes about the states in anticipation of the constitutional convention, he sees them almost as if they are a rambunctious group of children that

take what fran had to do with madison's notes. madison apparently changed his manuscript notes circa 1921 after the official journal had been published. he assumed the general was authoritative. it was not. so in some ways he thought he was wrong, he'd fix it and often what he went was firm accuracy to error. what to do with this? while he had to look at the manuscript and figure out where madison made changes in 1921 roughly, fortunately as he tells us, it wasn't so hard to do because they think he is succeeded in a different way than the inky had used in the 1780's. so you could pull this out. and you look back at the version he has different devices a scholar or very interested educated reader could click and save which version of the document was written. look, this is a treasure trove for historians and forgeries. it's an easy, regular authoritative documents. what about the state ratifying convention? well, in 1997, james hudson, who's the chief of the manuscript edition of the library of commerce published an article on thi

take what verand had to do with madison's notes. madison, apparently, changed hin manuscript notes circa 1921c after the official journal had been published. he assumed the journal was author tate i have. it was -- authoritative. it was not. so in some ways he thought hen was wrong, he'd fix it. and often what he went was from accuracy to error. what do you do with this? well, verand had to look at theo manuscript and figureok out whee madison made changes in 1921 roughly.g fortunately, as he tells us, it wasn't so hard to do because the ink madison used in 1921 faded in a different way than the ink he had used in the 1780s. so he could pull this out.y ha and then if you look at his version, he has a little device by which a scholar or a veryhe h interested, educated reader can look and see when, which version of the document was written. look, this is a treasure-trove for historians and for jurists. it's an easy, regular, authoritative reference on the documents of the federal convention. what about the state ratifyingn. convention

the other half was 21-year-old madison baumgartner.ts mitch although looking to hit in the 8th. the giants win 4-0 and take a strangle hold on the series leading now 3-1. fred inglis has been following the giants this entire post season. live from texas. fred, still one more to go but i'm sure the giants are feeling it, aren't they? >> oh, they have to. even cody ross admitted out loud, yes, they are thinking about it. they can feel it. they can taste it. they it can smell it. but they would not be able to do that without this 21-year- old hickory north carolina native madison baumgartner. he was simply too cool. he was playing like it was a natural, a natural game for him. it was just game 52 or something. he walked the first batter on four pitches. but after that he was just absolutely dominant. the bottom of the third after having a 2-0 lead, he goes on eight pitches to shut down the rangers. the 5th inning shooting down the rangers with eight pitches. strikes down and made guerrero look just sick on a couple of changeups. madison b

great stories. >> how about buster posey and madison bumgarner both rookies. rookies that were not a part of the start of the season, buster posey spent the first two months in the minors and madison bumgarner was called up in the middle of the season and provided tremendous pitching down the stretch. >> there is aubrey huff. >> and there is tim lincecum. kristen is pointing to the car so we can see him. >> this is unthinkable. >> it's unbelievable. i'm so happy. we're so happy. >> at this point in your career how does it feel. for this happen at your point in your career how does it feel? >> great. the greatest moment in my life. i'm just enjoying it right now. i feel real, real good. >> congratulations. >> the as the parade, he is 35 years old, there was an emotional moment laid flait season and gathered the team together after batting practice against chicago and said to lincecum said look, we can do this. and he said, i see the talent. we can do this. just get up to the playoffs and i will help you once we get there. he was heroic. he was unbelievable and

madison died on the third. madison and monroe died on the second. they're all trying to die on the fourth. john drew his last breath shortly after 6:00, witnesses reported that a final clap of thunder sounded at his passing and a bright sun broke through the clouds. an estimated 4000 people attended the funeral at the first congregational church three days later, as his body was laid to rest alongside abigail's. they have remained together ever since. thank you. [applause] >> actually they move them across the street to the unitarian church because of john quincy bought two crips for them, and he and his own wife were buried next to them. john mica been a unitarian by the time, at that stage. unitarianism is the featherbed to heaven. you don't actually believe anything to be a unitarian. [laughter] >> have i prompted any questions? or comments. >> under there's a mic right there so you have to go to the mic because c-span is covering this event. people have to speak. yes, sir. >> this is just to fill the time until someone comes up with a better que

madison bumgarner was the story, struck out six. he praised his teammates. >> the team was unbelievable. you don't want to take anything away from them. they got a lot of great hitters on the team. it was incredible watching them. >> i think he was genuinely wept for the situation. >> both those guys are rookies and pitcher and catcher. they could wrap up in texas tonight. tim lincecum will start for the giants. first pitch will be around 5:00 p.m. our time. game five of the world series will be broadcast on a jumbotron at san francisco civic center plaza and be showed on a dozen world cup soccer games were shown over the summer. fox sports which controls the broadcast rights would allow the city to show a clinching game if it happens while the giants are still on the road. tonight's is the first and only opportunity before the giants come back home. they'll be no alcohol allowed at the event. >> this morning, san francisco police it was a relatively quiet halloween night in the castro district. police warned people not to show up.

defective traffic lights at madison and broadway. 2, the highway in severna park, watch for an accident location. the delays are on 95 of this morning. police remained on the scene on the left shoulder. >> not a good way to start a monday. >> tune to am 1090 to hear traffic and weather together on the fives. all day long. >> thanks for joining us for 11 news today. >> we will be back with a live update at 7:25. >> see ya. >> follow breaking news and weather any time at wbaltv.com, and stay connected with us on facebook and twitter.

madison died on the third. madison monroe died on the second. they're all trying to die on the fourth. john drew his last breath shortly after 6:00. witnesses said that a final clap and then a bright sun broke through the clouds. an estimated 4000 people attended the funeral at the first congregational church three days later as his body was laid to rest alongside abigail. if they have remained together a percent. thank you. [applause] actually, they moved him across the street to the unitarian church because john quincy but to crips for them and then he and his own wife, louisa catherine were buried next to them. so john might've been a unitarian by the time he was at that stage. unitarian is the featherbed to have been. and you don't have to really believe anything to be unitarian. [laughter] have a prompted any questions? or comments? there is a migrate there, so you have to go to the mic because c-span is covering this event. people have to speak. yes, sir. >> this is just a fellow time till somebody thinks of a better question. i further qu

i'm from madison, wisconsin, which is a town not unlike san francisco. they cannot put me on trial in madison in wisconsin, so they took me to the south of carolina, and they put me on trial in strom thurmond federal courthouse in charleston, south carolina. across the street was the confederate cemetery. from the courthouse, they flew two flags -- the u.s. flag and the confederate battle flag, which was the state flag of south carolina. from the court room, i could look out the window and seaport sumter in the distance -- see fort sumter. they put me on a case with no marijuana. they invented imaginary marijuana. they said i was charged with conspiring to contribute 10 tons of colombian marijuana. i pled not guilty. i had a jury trial. i was found guilty on one account, acquitted on nine. i had an appellate case and the supreme court case. i was then facing 15 years. since may to nine. when i went to federal prison, i did time in eight different states in nine different federal prisons, including four penitentiaries -- that is a maximum security. includ

his personality, his political views, but hopefully we jumpstarted a conversation about james madison. .. because when the mail could be opened, you're secrets could be revealed in the was jefferson who usually got in trouble that way but i think part of the problem is it's difficult for americans to understand the issues of the 18th century. it's difficult for them to understand what are the things the riled people and the 18th-century about power? and if you just only site references to tyranny commodore not going to really understand. i mean, the perfect example is that jefferson and madison were strongly opposed to a standing army. is any politician today going to stand up and defend the dismantling of the military? >> i guess the answer is that what matters is context, understanding the context so when you see the quote double jefferson or madison you can't take them out of context. you have to understand them within the moral boundaries within the emotional boundaries, within the intellectual boundaries of the world in which they live. now, understand we are nearing the end of t

very, very intellectual deduction. >> madison, wisconsin. >> and there are madisons in 27 states acrossntry. >> fascinating. >>> will is rain all day? >> well not all day but cloudy and cool and raining throughout much of the day. there is your hd radar. heaviest all morning

it was madison, and it was aubrey, it was friday. it was all these guys just having fun and then realizing just how close they are to this huge piece of history. >> blow everybody away, or tomorrow banks burned. died beds of course first celebrated the big win and kron4 is dahlin was that a public house near eight t eddy bart. >> a great and exciting and sunday night for giants fans as t one game for of the world series. after the game ended several hundred fans crowded about 80 nt park. they were watching the games at nearby sports bars >>. this is how it sounded at looked. many sports bars instead francisco had says jerry out for the giants. at the public health sports bar, a couple hundred people have their eyes glued to the big screen tv. you could see their emotions as they react to every out and everyone. this was how fans reacted as aubrey half but two home runs to help the giants to get early lead. that said they want to watch the games at a bar because it is much more exciting than watching in the >> at home. you get the fee

pittsburgh at madison square garden on thursday. today, the terps dominated maine by 30 points.how it went down. in college par let's bring the intensity. how about this. gary williams, focused. first half, terps up by 7. terrell steps in. straight to the bucket, up and under. added 14 points off e bench. moments later, maine with the ball. here come the terps. hands it off to jordan williams. williams went for 20 points. 11 rerounds cht later in the half, they get the rebound, but tucker there with the steal and goes in for the uncontested dunk. tucker finished with 16 points, four steals. maryland up at the break. second half, maine with the ball. troy drives. williams says, no sir. big block. so nice, let's see it twice. that block leads to this. nice move. maryland wins big. 89-59. they advance to thursday and will play number fve pittsburgh at madison square gardens. >>> when asked about playing a game on sunday at 5:00, ovechkin said usually, you take a nap at this time. they were not naing. how about a little catch? warming up before the game. getting their gloves out. fi

madison died on the third. monroe died on the second. they are all trying to buy on the fourth. [laughter] john drew his last breath sort lead after 6 o'clock. witnesses reported that a final plot of thunder sounded at his passing and in the bright sun broke through the clouds, and estimated 4,000 people attended a federal the first congregational church three days later as his body was laid to rest alongside abigail. the have remained together ever since. [applause] >> actually moved them across the street to the unitarian church because john quincy bought to crypts for them in and he and his wife buried next to him. john mica of the unitarian by the time he was at that stage. unitarianism you don't really have to believe anything to be unitarian. [laughter] have prompted any questions or comments? there's a specific right there. you have to go to the mic because c-span's covering this event. people have to speak. yes, sir. >> this is just tell somebody has a better question. but i have heard that the children and grand children the least by abigail who had deplorable lives, th

first let's start the tragic accident that happened near the intersection of lee highway in james madison highway in gainesville. police say a man high on pcp crashed into another car. onlookers were le to save the driver but two passengers didn't make it. darcy spencer has the story. >> reporter: the crash happened at this intersection in gainesvillabout 9:15 friday night. prince wilam county police say the man who caused in firey crash was under the influence of pcp. >> i wish i couldake the clock go back but i can't. e.r.a. debbie lost her 20-year-old daughter, megan, in a fiery double-fatal crash at intersection of lee and james madison highways. the police say the has been who caused the crash, 22-year-old carlos lucas, was speeding and under the influence of drugs. >> i'm him to pay for what he's done. it's not fair that someone as innocent as she was was taken away from us because of his foolishness and -- i don't know, hi stupidity. >> reporter: police sayucas was driving on lee highway when he lost control of his chevy, cross the median and struck a honda acard which burst into f

market square garden -- madison square garden, coast to coast, the terps lead. tucker had 17. in the second half, how about this great bounce pass? fifth ranked pittsburgh was up 64-56. maryland came back and closed the gap. the terps were down by six late. the plight of the game, a pittsburg, 10 rebounds, 15 points -- the play of the game, pittsburgh, 10 rebounds, 15 points. >>> george mason with a victory over charlotte tonight. lou can coat -- luke hancock led the patriots. >>> the charleston classic, jason clark hit five shots. he scored 22. austin freeman got into the act. they beat coastal carolina, 80- 61. >>> maryland head football coach ralph friedgen will coach the terrapins next season. the athletic director made the announcement and said the team can focus on winning the acc championship. if the terps win their final two games at home, they win the title. it starts saturday night against florida state. >>> clinton portis was back on the practice field tonight. it still anybody's guess if he will play sunday against the titans. the redskins need to put monday's deba

i'll go one on one with the heroes madison bumgarner. i will tell the audience my interaction with president george w. bush. we had an interesting moment. we will tell you about that coming up live on game day. >> dennis in arlington, thanks so much. >>> as you could manage ip, there's shortage of places to celebrate. tonight's giants win. the san francisco mayor brought his daughter to the balboa cafe to watch the games with some friends. wendy ye. >> reporter: it was crazy here tonight. you would think that they are winning the world series already much don't tell the fans that because there's only one way to describe what happened here minutes after that last out. bedlamb. >>> you would think the giants already won the series. not only inside the watering hole but seconds after the giants took game four, they were celebrating in the streets. there's no taking away their joy with the win, even it's one short of the world title. every pitch to agonizing pitch, there were cheers. then there were the home runs. in the early innings when i

boise state and james madison. since then, they've been unbeaten and stayed that way tonight, thanks to a 31-17 win over number 24 miami. brian williams, 84 yards. 142 for the game. and the hokies clinch the coastal division. they'll play in the acc championship game. their opponent yet to be determined. the wolfpack beat north carolina 29-25. now, next week if nc state beats maryland, they're on to the acc title game. if they lose, then it's florida state. to the big 12. nebraska. all sorts of problems with a raucous kyle field tonight. a&m gets the win. the game-winning field goal. bo pelini furious with officials most of the night. the aggies get the win 9-6. that nebraska loss keeps missouri's hopes for a big 12 championship appearance still alive. missouri blanks iowa state 14-0. in the big 12 south, it's a winner take all showdown next week on prime time on abc. oklahoma state and oklahoma. the winner plays in the big 12 championship game. and on to the big ten. ohio state comes from behind to beat iowa this

and i-94, from madison to the twin cities.estern montana into idaho. >> if you're flying today, expect airport delays in minneapolis, kansas city and dallas. >>> well, more than 4,000 people are finally back on dry land after making a mass exodus from that crippled carnival cruise ship. as they returned to california, they had plenty of stories to tell from their three nights adrift. we get the latest, now, from emily schmidt. >> reporter: the tiny tugboats pulled "the carnival into san diego, into san diego, thousands of people welcomed the ending of a journey that never really began. >> we had five days. we had no lights. no electricity. we had no flashlight. we couldn't find the toilet. >> reporter: a litany of troubles unimaginable, when the luxury, one-week mexican riviera cruise began. and vacation videos looked like this. >> it's our first night on the cruise. we've just gotten our meals. >> reporter: but monday's engine room fire changed everything. >> all of a sudden, everything started going dead. >> smoke coming dow

that is all they needed, madison bumgarner had six strikeouts. final score 4-0 and they could wrap it up tonight. tim lincecum is on the mound and cliff lee will face him. first pitch is around 5:00 our time. if the giants lose it's back here for games six and seven. >> but thousands of fans are expected to gather at civic center plaza to watch the game. this is the only world series game the city will be allowed to broadcast. fox approved the free broadcast because the giants are away and win would clinch the world series championship. no alcohol will be allowed at the viewing. if giants would fall tonight, they will return here for six and seven but we have full confidence that will not be needed. >> a little orange punch. >> bring your own. >> sounds like you don't need to bring your own umbrella. >> i was thinking about something else -- oh, man. i'm sorry. he is all fired up about this. >> and rangers are going up in smoke. >> it be very nice. we'll talk about sunshine and 70 in downtown san francisco probably dropping down to the low 50s. t

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madison bumgarner was the stories. he shut out the rangers. he praised his teammates. >> the team was unbelievable. you don't want to take anything away from them. they got a lot of great hitters. >> the guy, he could do it in the situation. >> they could wrap it up tonight. tim lincecum will start against the rangers cliff lee. >>> game five of the world series, it will be broadcast on a jumbotron and shown free of charge on several big screens near city hall similar to the bay more than a dozen world cup soccer games were shown over the summer. fox sports which controls the broadcast rights gave the city to show tonight's game because the giants are away from home and a win would clinch the championships. if they would fall tonight, they will fly back home for six and seven. no alcohol will be allowed. >> this morning, san francisco police say it was relatively quiet halloween night in the castro district. police warned folks not to show up. nine people were shot back in 2006. they used street closures and patrols to discourage people from g

kendra, holly madison, kourtney kardashian, katie price, to name a few.licly boasting his handiwork. and it doesn't stop there. kendra even put him on her reality show. >> what size do you wear now? >> not even an a. >> and so did holly madison. >> if you can bring in pictures, tell me this is too small -- >> reporter: tyra banks asked him to prove she hadn't gone under his or anyone else's knife. >> tyra banks has natural breasts. there's no implants. >> reporter: and on the kardashians, she's performed a few anyones and tucks on the family, but his most notable work was done not on the sisters, but on their step-dad, bruce jenner. >> the part of your face that was pulled, that's stayed, you know, pulled, but the rest of it is falling around it and i think this looks older than it looks because this looks a little bit younger. >> reporter: a facelift gone wrong and a bad plastic surgeon led him to fisher. he got a re-do. the fixes account for approximately 40% of his work. >> like so many people just kind of make, you know, a bad choice, maybe, earlier a

and from there leave to it the 21-year-old rookie, madison bumgarner. this dude was sparkling. eight strong innings of shut-out baseball. the giants now on the verge of their first ever world series in terms of san francisco giants history. they win tonight, 4-1. an amazing night for the giants, really part of an amazing season. here is where we stand right now. tomorrow night, if the giants win, the world series is theirs. there would be a parade most likely in san francisco on wednesday. tomorrow night if the giants lose, then game 6 in san francisco on wednesday. our coverage continues later on in the newscast. we will check in with the commissioner of baseball. his thoughts about the a's moving to san jose. you might be surprised at what he says. we'll send it back to you. >> thank you, raj. >>> san francisco city hall is showing off its orange and black pride tonight. it looks beautiful, doesn't it? mayor gavin newsom announced tomorrow's game would be broadcast live at civic center plaza. there will even be some food vendors on hand. the city held similar events during th

and the -- the players they drafted, lincecum, of course matt cain and jonathan sanchez and madison bumgarner are home grown talents. the only free agent starter in the rotation is barry zito. now you're seeing position plays, home grown talent. buster posey obviously and immerged brandon belk who giants fans are going to be impressed with. there's larry baer. >> another guy that we talk to frequently here on cbs 5. larry instrumental in really getting the park built and really turning this into a venue and you know the key it seemed like as we look at bruce bochy and his wife with the trophy. i don't think he's going to let go of it. >> no, he's not. jim morehead is the giants director of media relations, he helps you get interviews am the time -- interviews all the time. you feel good for the people behind the scenes he's a good guy. >> -- >> ken, just like take a look at the wonderful trophy that you're holding? what an amazing day for you. >> an incredible day. this is the wildest i'd i'll ever be on and to be here is an honor. that is the fans' too. >> is that heavy? can you show it to u

, you know, dalia and james madison would create a equivalent correspondence, but they don't because they are always together. and maybe washington -- martha and george -- but george requests and martha concurs that upon his death they will destroy all of their correspondence. only three letters survived. so part of this -- part of the story is available to us because its volume of the letters. the volume is important but quality is more important. even if james and dolley road and even if they didn't destroy their own of letters, they wouldn't match the correspondence. it is the literary quality and it is the level of emotional honesty and candor that they sustain for 59 years. and allows us to understand what love means a free lifetime, not just romeo and juliet romantic love adolescence, but as it seasons and changes and as you suffer together. abigail was asked in her old age whether she would do it all over again and she said i cannot imagine suffering the same amount of anyone else. [laughter] by mean they lost three kids, they watched him go down in the elections, and in some

>> i am at 10th and madison. i see a great deal of cop cars going south behind the crowd. >> robert hour, far would they have to walk before they get to the b.a.r.t. station? >> gosh, that's -- beyond what i can, think of right now. maybe 20 blocks. >> you are closer to lake maritb.a.r.t. station. >> you have to get down that way. easing their way. past lany college. get closer to 880 before they can cut over to go to the b.a.r.t. station. an interesting route. >> are you unposition to see them right now, robert? >> they just passed me seconds ago. they were very well contained. shouting, chanting. they seemed a sedate crowd, fairly contained kroupd. >> what is the trem prament of the crowd. wult ills the mixture of the crowd. men, families in the crowd. what is the composition of the crowd. >> everybody you can imagine. it expires. a lot of grumpy words down at the civic senter plaza. strong language. i thought this would be much more violent than it is at first. it is a smaller crowd than say the last time. >>

the black eagle joe madison cranks up the pressure next on "the ed show." >>> welcome back to "the edbaugh's been on a racist bender as of late and besides ticking me off it's got folks wondering if the fcc should intervene. within the past few days he's posted the racist image of house majority whip, jim clyburn chauffeuring speaker nancy pelosi and called obama's time in the white house, quote, graffiti on the walls of american history. here's al sharpton responding to that last night. >> i think that the congressional black caucus, progressive caucus and others, ought to take this up with fcc. there ought to be a line on race, on gender, on sexual status, there ought to be a line where people have the right to say what they want but they do not have a right to use federally regulated airwaves to malign people because of groups and i think that mr. limbaugh and others should have to be subjected to that line, as you and i and anyone else. and he will have to deal with that. >> xm satellite radio talk show host the black eagle, joe madison with us tonight. joe, what do you make of th

host: someone from madison, wisconsin sends us this e-mail. do you anticipate a primary challenge to the president in 2012 or a third-party candidate? guest: i cannot see someone challenging the president. i cannot think there is anyone that can do it. the levels of power in the democratic party have been secured by the present. situation that existed in the past for other candidates could arise in the party is not where we are right now. in terms of an independent in the race, it is hard to say. if michael bloomberg runs, we could be in a three-way race. but i do not know who the person would be if someone decided to take advantage and step up and challenge. host: christopher is on our line for republicans. caller: how are you? i am angry with obama. my thing is, i loved him during the campaign. i thought he was practically a hero like malcolm x or martin luther king. he really has not lived up to any of his promises. if he failed on everything he did, but he tried as hard as he could, i would still love him. i have pictures of him on my wall