this is a letter from the james madison papers. this is a letter that madison wrote to jefferson in the summer of 1788. james madison was one of the authors of the federalist essays and later on he would draft the amendments that would become the bill of rights. in this period, he was not sure yet of the bill of rights. in this letter to jefferson, he says the delay of a few years will assuage the jealousies artificially created and will point out the faults which really call for amendment. he thought it would take a little time before they knew it would need to be amended. what he is saying is that a bill of rights should wait until later on. this is thomas jefferson's reply. what jefferson does is she thinks madison for -- he thanks for the news but says he knew it already. madison has sent him a copy and jefferson says he already has a copy. jefferson flatters madison and says with respect to the federalist, the three authors have been named to me. he says i read it with care and pleasure and was satisfied there was nothing in i

james madison is talking about fa in america. ong the numerous advantages promised by a well constructed accurately developed than itsre tendency to break and control the violence of faction. colleen sheehan, what was he referring to? >> he says that a faction could be a majority or a minority of the whole. what is decisive about affection is it is contrary to the rights of other citizens or to the permanent interests of the community. it is unjust. faction is what destroys popular government. what madison sets as the goal in federalist 10 is to control the violence of faction. because he wants the majority to rule, but not a majority faction. somehow the majority that will rule has to be a just majority. if it is not just majority to begin with, it has to be refined through the constitutional processes. >> two websites i want to mention to you. c-span.org, books that shaped america. more specifically, if you go to th federalt page, you will get other de that will add to your understandinofhe federalist. secondly, if you want to

among the men there was alexander hamilton and james madison. i would have liked to be a fly on the wall at the dinner party to hear what the three of them might have talked about. >> was this book the a bestseller? -- the federalist a bestseller? >> i do not know how many copies it sold. maybe the judge knows. >> it was printed in two volumes. it was published in march. the second volume was published at the end of may. the printer printed 500 copies and it was not a bestseller because we know that fall, the printer wrote a letter complaining he still had hundreds of copies unfold. initially it was not, but if you are lucky enough to have one of the original 500, you are in very good luck today. >> there was this term that became used in the federalist papers. federalist 51, james madison, checksalances. ambition must be made to counteract ambition. the interest of the man must be connected with the constitutional rights of the place. it may reflection on human nature that such devices should be necessary to control the abuses of government. at

you see it in marbury versus madison. we held up this case for obvious reasons as being so profound. when you look at the facts underlying it, they are pretty defining. >> thank you for spending a few minutes with us on books that shaped america. >> pleased to be with you. >> we are talking about the federalist papers. there are nine public schools named after alexander hamilton, five for john jay, there is james madison university in viinia. there are more than 200 breakfast since to the federalist papers and supreme court decisions. more than 3000 refens to federalist 78 by supreme court justices. there hamilton statues in washington dc. the james madison building at the library of congress and the john jay statue at new york city college. this is alexander hamilton. liberty can have nothg fear from the judiciary alone, but at havevything to fear from its what was the importance of federalist number 78? judge maggs: hamilton described the judiciary, talking about how judges were appointed, the tenure and powers and one

that is the point of doing this year end madison square garden. talking with a campaign a while ago asking them what is the thinking behind this? why come to this arena? why come to this estate why not spend more time in the battleground states i asked if it was a message to democrats that are in this town have gone after him legally if it's a message to those democrats this is his town too. look, it is a message this is about packing a very large arena it's showing there are trump supporters and a blue states as well as a red states they are going to turn out for the former president. they are going to turn out in the polls as well he is asking people not only in this stadium but all over new york and new jersey normally blue states to get out there and vote as well. you are probably going to hear some of that as well when he gets at this stage we have got a slew of speakers ahead. big names ahead. we are not looking at the president coming out anytime soon. but people hear the energy is electric. i have not felt anything like this since the rnc.

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madison also does that. i'm not sure any other president has done in the run up to the war of 1812 when we are contesting we've been arguing both with the french and the british who are in a world war against each other, and they're trying to restrict trade that. the america ship, built ship owners have been carrying on to great profit. jefferson madison have an embargo. the jefferson's embargo acted basically shuts down this huge lee profitable shipping industry or at least encourages smuggling. and they really are headed towards war with britain madison just orders the seizure of what was called them west florida, which is actually not what we think of as at all. but the southernmost part of what is now alabama, mississippi. and louisa anna, north of the mississippi river and up to baton rouge madison says so who is now president? says, oh, well, this was part of the louisiana purchase. nobody else really believes this. but madison says this is part of the louisiana purchase are taking this these local peo

phil addressing the folks at madison square garden. they are there even though new york is a reliably blue state. he is joined by fellow election deniers like wealthy buddy elon musk and broke buddy rudy giuliani. we will have a live report from inside that chilling rally in a moment. in the meanwhile, vice president kamala harris focused on meeting voters in the key battleground state of pennsylvania. just moments ago, she wrapped up a rally in philadelphia after talking to voters at several stops in the city, including a black church, bookstore, and a puerto rican restaurant. with more than 42 million votes already cast across the country, the race could not be tighter or the stakes higher. as vice president harris reminded voters earlier today. >> look. just imagine the oval office on january 20th. it's going to be one of two people. it's going to be either donald trump or me. if it is donald trump, you can see what that day is going to be. it will be him sitting at that desk stewing over his enemies list. he is full of grievance. h

at madison square garden.re was a massive turn out with 20 thousand people inside, and thousands more waiting outside watching. it was filled with policy points and also some surprises. dr. phil spoke and endorsed ticket also, introduces jd vance, elon musk one of the loudest supporters of former president spoke and melania intrade intr introduced her husband. >> i would like to begin by asking a very simple question: are you better off now than you were four years ago? this will be america's new golden age. it is going to happen quickly, too very quickly. reporter: trump also delivered what has become his closing argument in this campaign. >> on issue after issue, kamala broke it, but i will fix it. we're going to fix it. reporter: the issues that trump is most focused on fixing are the economy and illegal immigration. trump announced a new policy last night to offer tax credits for family members that work as caregivers for aging family members or parents. >> if you want too seal the border, vote trump. if y

and all right, so madison him early voting has started, here in madison, you can then early and now throught now i am speaking. [cheering]. [background sounds]. >> so madison, we have an opportunity this election, to turn the page and indicative donald trump, try to keep is divided and afraid of each other. that is so yes, that madison, that is not who we are. [cheering]. >> and, folks are exhausted and wanted to stop and pointing fingers it is time to start to lock arms together as a people to rise with each other. and it is time for new generation of leadership in america. [cheering]. >> and i am ready to offer that, as the next president of the united states rated. [cheering]. >> and was going to be know me, i'm not afraid of a fight him up as a prosecutor top law enforcement officer, i one fights. against the big banks the rigged our homeowners against colleges that scam the veterans and students and against predators who abuse women and children against cartels the traffic in drugs and human being is predict and wisconsin, if you give me the chance to fight on your behalf as president,

live outside madison square garden is carley shimkus. >> how are you guys doing outside madison square-- hours ahead of the trump rally. you can see people are already fired up. >> usa -- >> all right i'm going to try to get in here and talk to a few people. i figure trump set your t-shirts says latinos america for trump. tell us about why you support him and why you're here. >> he's a patriot. i love him. he's going to do everything good for america. reporter: are you noticing more hispanic americans supporting donald trump in your community? >> 100%. family, church, and again, the patriot. being a patriot. >> can we talk about your visier i'm noticing hair color difference what's your name? >> i am a a devoted fox fan i love trump. i watch you every day. reporter: why did you find yourself outside madison square garden? >> they've destroyed it he's a patriot he doesn't need to be doing this. he really truly wants to save this country. reporter: are you surprised for those that have shown up so long before the rally ?arts >> no because we all love him. people that love this country an

madison's of love and support. life was somewhat agonized for madison. she felt she constantly had to live up to the full vision of what an ideal poplar grove kid was, and that really eroded her sense of resilience. she was grieving, she was sleep deprived, and over. add the stress, narrow expectations and the incessant comparisons that she just couldn't engaging in. and madison's life felt painful. there's a lot of people who are like, oh, it gets so much better after high school. like, it gets so much better after middle school. be fine tomorrow. madison recounted. but madison was getting -- tired of being told to wait tomorrow to feel fine. madison attempted suicide. both before we met her and in the time since, thankfully survived, she knew suicide wasn't her only option and she just dreamed of other ways of leaving poplar grove behind. so one of the things that i want us to kind of take away from this story about who i'm very happy to report is like and young adulthood, happily married, expecting a child and doing really well. one of the things abou

vivek was fantastic and anyway, madison alworth, thank you ever so much. let's continue this. kamala broke it and trump will fix it. that's the subject of the riff. so, electricity was high at the rally and more than good vibes, there was very important messages and i want to make it as clear as i can. in one sentence, it was a reprises in milwaukee and it was a closing statement by mr. trump and his team and that statement was undoubtedly viewed nationwide by tens and tens of millions of people. even though madison square garden in new york city and all the major sell vision stations, medias and rest around the world cover this thing. no one wants to chance it that you might have another four years. mr. trump's fire records shows he can fix it and build on the successes. the radicalized democratic party is not the party anymore and and john kennedy and look at bob kennedy jr.. >> it's not the party anymore of martin luther king and robert kennedy and john kennedy. these are the people that are >> don't you think we deserve a president in this country who will restore the mora

and all right, so madison him early voting has started, here in madison, you can then early and now throughne of the most consequential elections of our lifetime. and we have work to do, but we like hard work. hard work is good work. hard work is joyful work. and make no mistake, we will win. [cheering]. harris: we will when. we will win and i will tell you, we will win, we will win because when we know what to stand for coming you know went to fight for. [cheering]. c7 and we know, we have an opportunity, and listen, we all want the war in gaza dan. as soon as possible and i will do everything in my power to make it known and everybody has the right to be heard and right now i am speaking. [cheering]. [background sounds]. >> so madison, we have an opportunity this election, to turn the page and indicative donald trump, try to keep is divided and afraid of each other. that is so yes, that madison, that is not who we are. [cheering]. >> and, folks are exhausted and wanted to stop and pointing fingers it is time to start to lock arms together as a people to rise with each other. and it is tim

of course, this all started with a speaker invited to the trump rally at madison square garden. tonight, trump pouncing on president biden's wards, but a warning for trump, too, from nikki haley, saying women could be turned off by this. rachel scott with the trump campaign in green bay, wisconsin, tonight. >> reporter: tonight, in north carolina, donald trump pledging to take america forward, saying vice president kamala harris had her chance. >> well, we're running a campaign of solutions to save america, an america which they have virtually destroyed during their almost four-year period of rule. she spends all of her time complaining about everything, but there's nothing about it. she's going to do this, she's going to do that. why the hell didn't she do it, right? >> reporter: again and again, throughout the day, trump trying to seize on president biden's words, insisting biden called trump supporters garbage, though the white house says that's not what he meant. >> joe biden finally said what he and kamala really think of our supporters. he called them garbage. and they mea

heck they have bernie sanders and aoc here in madison to today.nd i want to preserve our constitution mack and what do they do? you want to rip up our constitution. we want to protect our traditional families, they want to rename our families and, sean, they can't even agree what a woman is and i guy is. so, looked, my raise is going on in my car just got done giving my sick speech, were charging hard remark if we went and saw wisconsin their done. people can sense the money my way, erica vella.com, greatly appreciate it but i think -- i feel the energy, we got the momentum, sean. >> sean: were going to watch very closely, this is now a state, a senate race and play. appreciate it. here now with more on this upcoming senate race, the one book -- we have republican candidates team she and he is running against incumbent democrat jon tester remark another reliable harris-biden support remark was going on in the ground -- on the ground in montana came up. >> and winning because of chronic -- common sense sex montanans want to get this country back in

what are you seeing there in madison square garden? >> yeah, we're here madison square garden right now. dreamed about doing an event here in such an iconic venue, but i have to tell you, it's a little bit strange to me in such a blue part of the country, just nine days before the election. if you talk to some of trump's adviser, their theory is that such a high-profile event like this is getting a lot of national attention. it's going to draw headlines, is going to reach voters that may be on here in new york city, but another element at play here is this is going to be a huge fundraising event for donald trump. i got my hands on one of the invite, and they are operating, the quotes, ultra maga experience. $4 million a pop for some of these donors. so while there may be some political reasons here ultimately, this is a financial moment for him. >> okay. nice talking over the very loud, loud music and dinging behind you. but molly, new york, far from a battleground state. is this a smart decision for him politically, or is it a waste o

that is what all of the in madison square garden believed in 1939. they believe that jewish people would poison the blood of any country including this one. when trump finally got up to the microphone in madison square garden he said this to his 20,000 fanatics in the room. >> the u.s. is now a occupied country but it will soon be a occupied country no longer. not going to be happening. november 5, 2024, nine days from now, will be liberation day in america. on day one i will launch the largest deportation program in american history. >> the 20,000 trump fanatics in the room know that this is not a occupied country. many or most of them live in suburbs where they have no hint of being occupied. there is no place in the united states more occupied by immigrants than new york city. that has always been true. there are more immigrants currently living in new york city than there are people in both of the dakotas combined. not one of those immigrants who are everywhere around madison square garden had a single harsh word for any of the racists that went

thanks, madison.l found 49% of voters trust donald trump to handle the issues they think are most important. that is, immigration and the economy. he leads harris 49-46 on those issues. todd piro with me this morning. i say harris is basing her campaign on demonizing trump and using star power, it's not helping that much in the polls. what say you? >> i think what you just said along with those numbers, they go in concert because if she were winning on the issues, she wouldn't need to to rely on those things that you just mentioned. that's all she has, stu. that's the only chance she has at winning because when you break out these numbers, the american people trust trump on the issues. and it's been that that way for a while. they. don't even trust kamala on really the ability to lead period, and that's why you've seen this coming to the mean, they're all coming to this tied number with the new york times. think about that for a moment. this is "the new york times." this isn't, you know, rasmussen. th

madison square garden was packed.mp created a movement of that is no doubt, i cannot think of one of the republican figure of my lifetime they could have come into a democratic a city like new york and put together anything like that. >> trace: maybe not an honest journalist on the planet can look at is that in order to see this was electric and say it was electrical because it was. >> yes, i was there covering the event yesterday, it was the first time i've been a trump rally. really surprising and astonishing to see the level of a -- and energy around trump and of course seemingly peaceful group of people, no violence there. i think it was seymour a lot more violence at basketball games, people were polite, there was a woman wiping down to the sink in the bathroom which i never saw anybody do and very ethnically and racially diverse. we saw muslims, there was a woman in a hate job, there were that were praying, displaying these really flag, i think it is smart to acknowledge that rather than what we saw from media a

for an example, in madison, wisconsin that that's dane county. the early vote numbers for the democrats are down by about 40% in milwaukee. they're down by about 41%. but it's against 2020 and 2020, you know, was a huge turnout. but most importantly, and i asked the question from their data folks, and this is the one that i think is most important for the people tonight, about 15% of the votes that are in in a state like north carolina specifically, and in georgia, about 12%, those those are people that did not vote in 2020. so this is not a case of republicans saying, oh, i used to always vote on election day. and now i'm going to vote early. well, you're just cannibalizing that vote. this is a case where a nice chunk of the numbers that are in right now are people that didn't even vote in 2020. i like what i'm seeing in these numbers. all right. let me ask you, joe concha. joe, we are now nine days away from officially election day. although if there's voting anywhere in the country, it's election day. kamala harris, as it relates to the media,

so you know, the madison who says that is preferable to the madison who doesn't. the i want to maybe push back a little bit on your thoughts about. the courts, policing, the structure of our government. and i wonder if there's there's a lack of some of the institutional realism that you praise when it comes to the founders in that. do we really think that the courts can play this intensive role in keeping congress and the presidency in their place, which historically, you know, they didn't really do it wasn't, you know, as you know, it wasn't it wasn't the court that kept the congress from delegating its powers. it was a certain kind of institutional self respect. yes. i mean, congress didn't want to part of the problem we have is this peculiar fact that the problem we're trying to solve really when it comes to congress, is that the institution doesn't want the power that it has, which is not a problem, that the framers real >> first, before we get to the israel and iran, also lebanon, i just want to do the daily flight update. >> sure. so

that is how most of them got to madison square garden. on the same new york city subway system that donald trump says will murder them. 20,000 trump supporters went to the center of the city where they are surrounded by millions and millions of immigrants and over 3 million in new york city with the population is 38% immigrants. that is not counting the children of the immigrants born here but the people who donald trump insists poison blood and they poison the blood of this country and this is what donald trump says. it is a pure hitler echo and this is all the -- nazis believed in 1939. they believed that jewish people would poison the blood of any country including this one and when donald trump finally got up to the microphone in madison square garden, he said this to his 20,000 fanatics in the room. >> the united states is now in occupied country, but it will soon be in occupied country no longer. it's not going to be happening. it's not going to be happening. november five a, -- november five, nine days from now will be liberation d

also tonight, the white house says president biden misspoke when talking about trump's rally at madison square garden. we ask harris about this. and nikki haley tonight with a warning for donald trump. >>> and the world series tonight, what's now happened to those two yankees fans? >>> first tonight, 24 hours after delivering her closing argument in front of 75,000 people on the ellipse, vice president kamala harris in three battleground states today. tonight, one-on-one here with our mary bruce. harris and her promise to republicans and independents, and mary asks about president biden's controversial comment about donald trump's rally at madison square garden. how the vice president responds. trump pouncing tonight on biden's comments. but he's also facing questions of his own. tonight, nikki haley with a stern warning to the trump campaign about what was on display at madison square garden, warning, it's a turnoff for women. >>> also breaking tonight, millions of americans on alert for severe storms across several states, possible tornadoes, damaging winds and large hail. we're track

this is all coming to you live from madison square garden. arena in midtown manhattan. about 20 blocks or so from where i am sitting here in our fox news studios in manhattan. tucker carlson is ready to rally up the crowd. let's listen in. [cheering and applause] i saw the grateful dead in this arena in 1987. i was seated right there. how weird. it is such an honor to be here. it is wild. just another day following bobby kennedy junior at a donald trump rally in madison square garden. [laughter] that is totally normal. liz cheney is out there. [laughter] with kamala harris and there is bobby kennedy calling to protect women's sports at a trump rally. it is a realignment. it is unbelievable. the fact that it is here is even sweeter. imagine, just pause for one moment, imagine you are donald trump. you are from new york city you become famous in new york city, you have your fortune in new york city and all of a sudden the leadership of new york city will destroy you because they don't like your politics. [booing] yeah. imagine that where you. t

people are sick of what they sought madison square garden. you have been through the litany of the racist hate filled rhetoric you heard before even donald trump took the stage. the tone was set. what you saw was the cementing of what is essentially donald trump and j.d. vance's closing argument. nothing more than more hate, more fair, or division. what is as important as what you did not hear at all in madison square garden which was a single solution to improve the lives of the american people. for us, over the course of the final eight days of this campaign, that's the contrast we are going to present to that slice of the electorate that is undecided, still deciding who they are going to vote for if they will vote at all. you have one campaign and donald trump's and j.d. vance which is about fear and division and all about serving donald trump and his interest at the expense of the market people and on the other side is the vice president will layout, somebody who is offering the american people in way forward. we can turn the page on what

madison. >> same reason.ecause i really like the mets and my dad will be mad but i'd like a hometown win. yankees. stuart: ashley? ashley: dodgers. i first moved to la la first and got hooked on the dodgers. stuart: how do you unwind after a stressful news day. ashley. ashley: go toes beach. i live close by or maybe a nice beer by the pool. >> i like to unwind by working out. it gets out all the stress. news is a stressful business and if i can go do air punches, it helps me release the stress. stuart: wow. >> better than punching someone on the street so i'm in the air. stuart: very student i take a nap. it's that simple. this is from megan. the news seems like a 24/7 industry, especially during busy times like this. how do you manage your work/life balance? noted touching this with a 10-foot poll. ashley, you're first on this. ashley: i try and distance myself on the day's off and never wear a watch because we're a slave toadded lines and never wear a watch when i'm off work. stuart: madison? >> that's a ri

this is some of what we have heard out of madison square garden tonight. and of course, former president is still going. i want to go back to kristen holmes, who's inside. kristen, we dipped out of the speech for a little bit. what what more has he been saying >> he's giving his general talking points in a lot of that is his i'm just don't hear he's using the word nasty, so i'm trying to figure out what he's talking about because i wanted to hear what he was referring to kamala harris or not because that's not a word he often uses what does it sound like? it he has been using the same rhetoric that he often does, as you noted, there is a very heavy focus on immigration, unsurprisingly, donald trump jr.'s your base rhetoric around immigration is what helps get him into the white house in 2016. and he believes that it could help him again in 2024 now, right now, he's talking about former first lady melania trump. he is giving her a shout, are just a reminder. she spoke tonight. this is the first time she has gotten up on the stage in any campaign event. this

madison square garden credit. it's a full highest madison square garden. there's donuts on the stage is a high profile raleigh to boost his white high speed as we had into the last full week of campaign. and george's rolling pro russian party wins parliamentary elections with over 54 percent of the vote. but the country president rejects the results, the high that i'm jack powered. welcome to the show with just over a week to go before america legs, the next president, donald trump has been rallying his supporters in new york. and that's the city web from made his name, but it's also a democrat stronghold. trump addressed a crowd of $20000.00 also at madison square garden. it's a high profile venue, and the stage was lost by a republican for president. 40 years ago. its trump channels, his reality tv stop passed within the top on his challenge, a couple of hers and her record in office over the past 4 years. every problem facing is going to be solved, but now the fate of our nation is in your hands. next tuesday, you have to stand up and you have to tell c

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that is a light at madison square garden. can watch the whole thing right here in fox news channel. waiting for the president to speak at madison square garden rally here on fox news. they're like my best buddies. yep, had them my whole life. c'mon bo! so we got him and he is a, an absolute joy. daddy's puppy. once we got on the farmer's dog he just attacks it, it's incredible. they're so tuned into you and they have such, such personality. being without a dog, i don't know, can't imagine it. [laughter] i'm a lifelong republican and i voted for trump twice, but i can't do it again. trump wants a national sales tax on imported goods. it'll make everything more expensive for regular people, all while giving tax breaks to billionaires. you're rich as hell. we're going to give you tax cuts. kamala harris is for regular people. she wants a tax cut for 100 million americans, so we keep more of our hard-earned money. i'm a proud republican, but this year, i'm voting for kamala harris. ff pac is responsible for the content of this ad

of his move of doing this closing argument from madison square garden? >> what it is almost purely symbolic no one should be under the illusion that he has any chance of winning new york state or new york city. frankly, he didn't even win the immediate area around donald trump when trump tower, i should say when he ran in 2016 and in 2020. so that's that's not what this is about. it's purely symbolic. it's a way to run against and i was listening to some of that rally kind of running against cities, against new york city, against the idea that democratically run cities are horrible places, are terrible places and that his politics is taking intended to take the country in a different direction. and so there is no greater symbol of urban life in new york than in the heart of new york city. and i think that's why he's here and it is so ironic that it is you're saying it is, it is an attack on democratically run cities and how they are run. >> and yet, donald trump wouldn't wants to be here. he cares so much about new york and being in new york city and bei

she's appeared at a kamala harris rally in madison.c is really touchy on the same thing that we see nationwide in the a lot of these races. he's blaming baldwin for not doing enough on immigration, he's blaming baldwin for the economy, and he's also saying that in nearly 40 years in public office that it is time for some fresh ideas from -- he portrays himself as an outsider, he certainly has never held political office before, but he has run once before. he's spending a lot of his own money on the race and democrats are pouring a ton of money into it. at last count it was the fourth or fifth most expensive senate race in the country this year. host: and if you'd like to join the conversation, ask a question of our guest, you can do so. we are focused on wisconsin. we've got a special line set aside for wisconsin residents. that is (202) 748-8002. -- that is (202) 748-8003. if you are a trump vance supporter, you can call us on (202) 748-8000. if you are supporting the harris-walz ticket, call us on (202) 748-8000. and if you are undec

going to madison square garden you are a nazi.l you how much that upsets people who are on the fence on donald trump and say they are just out to get him and they will say anything. i don't know why it has to go that level. >> i understand what you're saying but regard to the messaging that donald trump will deliver inside that arena, and accusations of nazi -- fascism not only from hillary clinton kamala harris who agrees with that, you have this from so many former trump administration officials, noticeably this week john kelly. he said he absolutely embodies the definition of fascism. don't you think that is something that should come out in madison square garden ? there is reason to say, look, there is similar is him here. >> no, i don't. i don't think madison square garden has anything different to do with the rally he is having right now as it relates to not see as a. what hillary clinton said is that people who gathered that day were there to pleasure allegiance to not he is a man that will happen again at madison square ga

0k, madison, hear it fortodd! 0k, madison, are hear it for todd!are we ready to do this? are we ready to vote? are we ready to win? it is good to be back in madison. it is good to be back. and many of you may know when i was five years old my parents taught at the university of wisconsin, madison. and so for a time my sister and i lived not farfrom here in a time my sister and i lived not far from here in a a time my sister and i lived not farfrom here in a house on lachmann dollar. so it is good to be back and it is good to be with so many incredible leaders and first of all i want to thank everybody who is here right now for taking the time you have taken to be here. i also want to thank our governor of wisconsin. governor evers. . of wisconsin. governor evers. , kamala harris speaking there. she has just arrived there in madison, wisconsin and as we said donald trump held a rally earlier in the day in green bay wisconsin. let's talk more now about the state of wisconsin. i'm joined by ruth conniff, editor—in—chief of the wisconsin examiner. it i

so this is what we've been hearing out of madison square garden tonight. kristen, what have you been tracking everything. >> just getting picked to keep in mind, here's somebody who's attended dozens upon dozens of these rallies, even for me, listening to this rudder it was incredibly dark and hateful. there was a lot of nativist rhetoric talking about how america is for americans only we heard someone saying that america first met american citizens with getting jobs first miss usa. we heard those lines about messing illegals we've heard someone saying that hillary clinton was a sick name calling to kamala harris and that really important one that has received enormous amount of backlash from both democrats bradley, and republicans that puerto rico was literally an island of garbage. >> this has been some of the darkest rhetoric that i referred at what these trump rallies. >> and the reason why it is so significant is that we are talking about a kick event to what is the end of the campaign? in the final week before people hit whole obviously, he knows som