to stop the madrassa coalition put out a press release saying that i am personally connected to these t. shirts and this t. shirt is calling for an uprising gaza style in new york city and therefore i should not be leading the school. i never saw these t. shirts nor knew anything about the. news outlets all over the country all outgo except for the new york post which is a local new york city based paper. the new york post called the department of education insisting that i do an interview. on the departed. cations insistence i ended up speaking to that reporter. we began the interview with him asking about my filiation to this organization after saying to him i would never affiliate myself with any organization or individual who would be violence in any shape way or form basically is that to him i don't believe that these young women are going to be aging and he. the reporter asked me for the root word the word in to and my response to him was if you look it up in the arabic dictionary it is shaking up and i went on to explain to him that this word has evolved and has different meani

islamist agenda in its classrooms we are paying with our public dollar for a religious school a madrassa the arabic immigrant students will be isolated whether that materializes instantly into terrorists that's a huge statement to make but are these students not assimilating and becoming part of the american fabric and is that potentially a problem we think so guess. what you. like someone goes to walk to where you know pizza place and blows up innocent civilians it's not that kind of shot to softly hog where you. are so to watch a fashion you create institution try not to make waves and you move it in that fashion little by little of course in the states. it's so ridiculous i have to smile i don't believe in having state sponsored religious education department of education would never have approved a school that has religious education there is nothing islam assisted about it there is nothing religious about it and so they are really seeing ghosts in the closet that aren't there. enough backyard i'm not i know i did we were no no no i'm not trying to crap and spread all. over the count

he said we don't need more madrassas.chools that will promote science and math and secular students. one can be modern and one can be scientific and still be a good islam. >> he says the gulan movement is different from fundamentalist islam because they expect all faiths and believe religion is compatible with science. >> i think it's fair to say that islam has had difficult ney coming to terms with modernity, and in that i think that the gulan movement offers a much more positive picture of what islam can be. ♪ ♪ gulan inspired volunteers to bring turkish culture with them. they sponsored an olympiad where students compete in turkish dance and song. they compete in ankara, turkey. there are more than 1,000 gulan-inspired schools in almost 100 countries. >> that lies at the core of this -- of this movement. to be a good muslim, you have to be well educated and to be a good muslim who participated in modernity meant to be cognizant and well educated in science, math and technology. >> education helps you overcome ignorance

taxpayer has has spent on building mosques and madrassas in the muslim world it's hardly the actions of some insane thing about islam it's also about religion secondly i didn't know you didn't miss. committed secondly. the in terms of democracy now well that's what you got in iraq as i said twenty months was very fast between a stalinist dictatorship and voting for prime minister it didn't work it's not working it needs with the historical record shows that democratization is a slow process i'm sorry if you're impatient bush was impatient you and bush are impatient and look what you get it's got to take some years give it time. but then i think the point is here it was but what i'm so disappointed is hearing the problems in iraq are from the invasion not from the problems or rock or from invasion not for democracy though the problems in iraq or because of a foreign illegal foreign military occupation which stirred up this extremist kind of reaction if the if a democracy isn't the whole thing was naturally in that country if we hadn't supported ard. saddam was a very very big surprise

i mean, there are hundredings of madrassas that are all through the tribal areas along the... >> rose: training new recruits. >> and that's the question. obviously they're not going to be as experienced as the leaders who have been at the field and as those get killed it will take time for those to gain some skills but if you keep having a resupply then you're not really gaining enough ground to change... >> rose: could anything change that? i mean, you'd have... >> well, i mean, i guess... >> rose: what would petraeus say. if you say to him "what could change your opportunity to do something about safe havens in north waziristan or wherever they are" he would say what? >> there would have to be a change in pakistan. >> rose: in the leadership? pakistan? >> in the leadership of the security forces and the willingness... >> rose: that's kayani, isn't it? >> it's kayani. but i think it's the whole picture, it's i.s.i. there would have to be a willingness to allow to move forward. >> i think the leadership in pakistan and the i.s.i. actually in a way honestly reflects its population with