it shouldn't be permanent maffei t.a.r.p..it stands for executive compensation and i regret the fact the administration seems to apply this only to those entities that have received three scoops of ice cream. i would think if you read law it should apply to any company that receives even one and fusion of t.a.r.p. funds. but people were outraged at exit of compensation that wasn't only understandable, it was valuable and will lead promptly to the return of some $60 billion to the treasury by various banks that they would not have done if it wasn't for this outrage and the government reaction. as to the proposals we are considering today for say on pay i think we ought to look up at being binding largest advisory and we ought to set as many standards here in this room rather than just transfer authority to the sec. we are talking about shareholder democracy. democracy starts by legislating by elected represented people not just by granting power to an unelected board. there are those that say corporate boards will exercise the