we are driving to the stronghold of the local mafia. it is a maze of concrete tenements, drugs, piles of trash, this is all part and parcel life here. this is the kind of place you need to film discreetly. it is not exactly a tourist attraction and. the new mayor of naples, who enjoys police protection, has now declared war. he knows that his battle against garbage means no less than taking on the mafia. getting in touch with the grassroots is key. he is visiting neighborhoods to try and get local people on his side to give them hope. >> i want to help the people who volunteer their services in schools and clubs and doing a lot of bad worker. we have to make progress on the trash a separation brunt. there are other projects, like the construction of a new university. >> the hopes riding on him are huge and fairly realistic. he won by a large majority against serbia burlesque on the's party. he has powerful enemies. and -- sergio burlesque tooni's party. they see it as a deliberate provocations by arsonists and as an attempt to damage it

they put bugs in rylhode island for the mafia. they bugged a mafia induction. they also put bugs into the john gotti social club that helped to lead to his arrest. at the engineering research facility and offsite, they will make a vase or lamp with a bug on it. they may send an agent posing as an exterminator to take a picture of a vase in the house. they make a replica of that and put a bug in it. then they put it back in the house. i was shown a bug that was the size of a postage stamp. it could record for 21 hours or transmit remotely in stereo. that is one of their little techniques. they could put it in a book, a battery for a cell phone. i was allowed to interview current agents at the engineering research facility. my battery ran out in my reporter. they brought me a new battery and said it had a bug in it. host: victoria is calling from new york. caller: this is fascinating. do they use this to discredit political candidates? this is kind of scary. guest: under the reign of j. edgar hoover who created the fbi and made it into the world's most admired ag

they put bugs in rylhode island for the mafia. they bugged a mafia induction. they also put bugs into the john gotti social club that helped to lead to his arrest. at the engineering research facility and offsite, they will make a vase or lamp with a bug on it. they may send an agent posing as an exterminator to take a picture of a vase in the house. they make a replica of that and put a bug in it. then they put it back in the house. i was shown a bug that was the size of a postage stamp. it could record for 21 hours or transmit remotely in stereo. that is one of their little techniques. they could put it in a book, a battery for a cell phone. i was allowed to interview current agents at the engineering research facility. my battery ran out in my reporter. they brought me a new battery and said it had a bug in it. host: victoria is calling from new york. caller: this is fascinating. do they use this to discredit political candidates? this is kind of scary. guest: under the reign of j. edgar hoover who created the fbi and made it into the world's most admired ag

she sentenced people linked to the oil mafia, to the transport mafia. michigans were -- militias were growing at alarming levels. corruption, drug trafficking. >> the bbc's paolo has more details on the killing. >> the judge was shot 21 times in front of her house. two masked men riding motorbikes, police not sure if there is still another car involved in the action, shot the judge while she arrived home. she was well-known for being very tough on organized crime, particularly on that squad, including some that had police officers as members. she has actually convicted a few police officers who had committed crimes on duty. an interesting piece of information is that brazil's national council of justice, that's kind of an association of judges, has informed that there are 87 judges under that group in brazil. the judge did not have a police escort, nor a bulletproof car. the family says that she had requested these and that had not been granted by the authorities. the authorities said she had this niece escort herself some three years ago and not reques

comedy so she made comedy is about mafia schmidt musical comedy is actually about mafia. musical comedy is about illegal immigration and prostitution so that a wave of political correctness and everybody wanted to smash the director who had you know to tackle such serious subject matter and with such a light for you know what we should be she started doing that and then and then the hunger games camera but then. they followed in the first steps and i talk about political correctness you were talking about this winning military strategy of hollywood on the european market you said you said you mentioned the italian strategy which doesn't seem to be working very well at least as good as the american strategy no three you think the europeans should imitate the hollywood strategy the quality of the films but in promoting well probably i mean we should prove that. in both cases russian and italian cinema i mean there is so much more than what normally gets. to most of the screens even in provincial cities very often either you don't get to see some of the new films by young ta

the sicilian mafia did. and then i was u.s. attorney for 5 1/2 years.ne percival put out a contract for only $400,000 to kill me. >> jimmy: you go, "hey, what's the big deal?" yeah, yeah. >> come on. [ laughter ] 5 1/2 years of work, and my value gets cut in half? i mean, come on. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: come on. hey, i'm doing something here. >> shees, god. give me a break. >> jimmy: that's wild. oh, my gosh. i mean, that -- i've got to commend you again. i know everyone always does this. see, that's why i was asking you if you get bothered in yankee stadium, because when 9/11 happened here, you were the mayor. and i got to say, thank you so much for everything you did for us there. and they really -- [ cheers and applause ] abd everybody, all the work. i know, you get credit. but that was a moment where, you know, all of us were just watching -- we were just tv and just hoping anyone would say something or step up and talk to us. and, you know, the president -- but, you stepped up. you were covered in soot, and i was like -- i love you so much, and i j

hace varios meses las autoridades le seguÍan la pista a villa mÁs conocida en el mundo de la mafia conillones de dÓlares del trÁfico de droga del cártel de sinaloa. >> en el establecimiento de un emporio de empresas que operaban a travÉs de testaferros para lavar activos al cÁrtel de sinaloa. >> aunque no se sabe con certeza cuÁndo comenzÓ el historial delictivo las autoridades presumen que fue de la mano de su hermano francisco villa, uno de los hombres de mayor confianza del mÁs peligroso capo de la droga en colombia. en la dÉcada de los 80. >> fue el piloto mÁs cercano a pablo escobar y el cartel de medellÍn. que fue asesinado el 23 de abril del 2007 en su finca. >> es solicitada por una corte de la florida. sin embargo, con su captura podrÍa iniciar el reciÉn firmado tratados de tradiciÓn entre colombia y mÉxico. >> el presidente santos y yo otro compromiso de seguir uniendo esfuerzos contra los grupos del crimen organizado transnacional amenazan a los tres sociedades. >> en instantes, estudiantes chilenos y gobierno buscan una tregua >> tras las multitudinarias protestas en chile,

before they go into an embassy let's say or an office, they, or a mafia home, that's another example, they will do surveillance for weeks to find out who goes in, who goes out. on the night of the break-in, they have agents who watch anybody who might return. let's say they work in an office and are at home. they want to make sure they don't go back. if they do go back, they will divert them. they will stage a phony traffic accident. dress as police officers and stop them. open a fire hydrant in the area 0 to make sure nobody goes there and also before they show a photo of any dog that might be in the premises to a veterinarian on contract, and he will prescribe based on the type of dog and weight ever the dog just the right amount of tranquilizer that is then put into a dart gun. >> come on. >> shoot it into the dog. at the end of the break-in, shoot him again whip other drugs to wake them up because they don't want to create suspicion and the even bring their own dust, in case they disturb a coffee table, or desk, put their own dust on to make sure it's undisturbed. create phony fro

. >>> era conocida por combatir grupos para policiales y mafias. >>> doy mensaje a jueces, fiscales ylitar en los últimos 10 años, la magistrada condenó a más de 70 malos policías. en los últimos 4 años fueron registradas 31 mil muertes violentas. 90% de los homicidios no fueron castigados. >>> la pregunta es un hecho tran grave como el asesinato de un juez, nos revela en brasil la aparición de mafiase otras mundiales y en este caso como otros, quedan impunes. en brasil, fabiana, univn.ió >>> pasamos con etna smith y un adelanto de la edición nocturna de noticiero univisión. >>> acribillan a balazos a 10 presuntos sicarios en méxico las autoridades encontraron armas, marihus y granadas durante la redada. también se desata la fiebre del oro. siguen en ascenso por temor a la recesión en el país. y la agencia mundial anti dopaje, 2 # años de suspensión a 5 jugadores del tri. en la copa oro. y detalles de esto y más en edición nocturna. continúa la controversia con eso todavía. >>> gracia una última pausa y regresamos desde méxico para conocer a un joven genio. >>> se acaba de graduar de

desarticulado en california, un cartel de méxico, y la droga, tenía vínculos con la mafia de sinal sinaloaores que odios en el encuentro con el papa benedicto xvi, y la juventud, y lluvia de bendiciones contra el hispano que salvó a una niña hispana, de las garrase de un criminal. >>> buenas tardes, para decenas de miles de indocumentados, en proceso de deportación en estados unidos, esta sería la noticia que esperaban, y que quizá por la que habían estado rezando sin descanso, funcionarios del gobierno federal del presidente obama, anunciaron que analizarán 300 mil casos de deportación que tienen pendientes, y dejarán a un lado, escuchen, dejarán a un lado, pospuestos indefinidamente, indocumentados que no cometieron delitos, y tienes raiches en estados unidos, podrían hasta solicitar permisos de trabajo, funcionarios, reiteraron que otros indocumentados, no criminales, con raíces en estados unidos, y que no están en proceso dee portación, no son prioridad, y no serán perseguidos, pero no le dieron protección especial concreta a estudiantes del dream act, tenemos la más completa cobertura

despierta amÉrica: la historia de valentÍa de una mexicana que luego de sobrevivir a un atentado de la mafiasible en curiosos aviones o artefaectos de fabricaciÓn casera. miles de personas se reunieron en las orillas del rÍo moscÚ para ver esta colorida competencia. tienen que saltar de una plataforma de seis metros de altura en el agua. por lo menos se la pasan muy bien. quÉ tal el sombrerazo? eso sÍ. y para la despedida, nos vamos hasta inglaterra donde tuvo lugar el festival anual del chile. el mÁs grande de su tipo en ese paÍs. desde 1995 se celebra este evento que en esta ocasiÓn exhibe mÁs de 300 chiles de todo tipo de formas y tamaÑos. entre ellos, algunos de los mÁs picantes del mundo. podÍan comprar cuadros y objetos y consumir alimentosn con ese tipo de picante. incluyendo helado. no podÍa faltar: un toque de mÚsica mexicana. muchas gracias. buenas noches. ♪

. >> he acted like a mafia guy and told him that nothing happened. >> this is not the first time that sarna was in trouble. he is a former oakland police lieutenant that had one time had close dies with governor brown. he made chief of the justice department but he resigned after he was cited for a d.u.i. as oakland school police chief he is credited to having started a popular free summer camp. >> he has been chief here for the past two years. our calls to him were not returned. i did talk briefly to the african-american sergeant who says he is now lawyered up and he did not go into details of the incident. meantime, the school district confirmed that they are investigating this matter and that they have placed sarna underpaid administrative leave. >>> investigators say it could take months to figure out exactly why a stage collapsed during a wind storm and killed five people at the indiana state fair. >> terrifying site and tons of steel crashed on the performance area where sugar land was scheduled to perform. the manager says he held the band backstage seconds before it was topple

. >> i am so happy today that we fought to get back our rights from him and his mafia. >> and the protests placed outside of the trial of venue. must have been hot in the square. on monday, the egyptian army dispersed demonstrators assembled there. crowds have gathered to protest the pace of change. >> we have achieved a lot since the beginning of the revolution. freedom, for example. those with more and come are not better off. the conditions would improve if they just had a drinking water. they can just live in dignity. >> religious activists were suppressed via the regime. hundreds of thousands gathered in the square for the largest demonstration since the revolution. >> we demand social justice. he has to be tried and punished. these are all demands from the revolution. we don't have any specific demands, including religious ones. tensions are emerging. they accused islamists for hijauking the reform movement. they are demanding the introduction of law. >> egypt's identity is as lawmen. there will never be a division between islam and the state. >> this than the voices against extremis

, chris saka, a well-known investor compare the business model to another well-known business, the mafia i say, listen, it would be a shame to something that happened to your little start-up. you send me a check and that won't happen. and then if you don't -- >> let's give them the benefit of the doubt. it is actually somewhat of a mystery to me. what his intentions were with the business and what really goes on with the business. there are clearly these pieces. how they are causing bad ripple effects. do you think they have gotten trapped in something? do you think they started out gentlemen lit matly wanting to solve these. let's help the investors. but let's also help it from keeping litigation. as you point out, they're a venture backed company. their idea -- >> let's look at it this way. all right. i will give them the benefit of the doubt. they started out wanting to help inventors. but ultimately they got $5 billion worth of investment from people who expect a high return. and to make that back. thus far they have made $2 billion. to make that back there's really no way to go forw

you perhaps when you legalized alcohol reduce some violence you didn't put the lid cosa nostra the mafia out of business they even continue until today they just look for for a new business opportunities and that's what the cartels in mexico are doing and will continue to do so the answer is not legalization but the answer is strengthening the rule of law in mexico ok jeffrey what about just taxing it all i mean america is the place of free markets ok so when she does make it into tobacco and alcohol ok i mean they take their health risk obviously related to both of them i don't want it will you do that with some not all but most most of the drugs. it's turned into a business it's a backhoe in particular is a very tobacco is a very very useful example the u.s. and the world started to recognize in the early one nine hundred fifty s. that tobacco is a much more dangerous product than had previously been recognized we did not prohibit it or outlaw it we engaged in all sorts of public and private public health initiatives education initiatives and slowly but surely over thirty forty years t

. >>> pensamos que hay lazos entre las mafias y si no les dieron el dinero es lo que pasa. >>> es algofuertes sobre el asunto. >>> muchos piden al presidente calderÓn que renuncie y se ponga los pantalones, pero bÁrbara segÚn el presidente renunciar no es una opciÓn hoy, regreso contigo. >>> gracias ricardo, y siguiendo en mÉxico un macabro a hallazgo sorprendiÓ a las autoridades, se trato de un hombre decdecapitad junto a locis restos dejaron un mensaje firmado por la mano con ojos cuyo lÍder fue recientemente capturado. >>> abordo de motocicleta irrumpieron pistoleros en un partido de fÚtbol en colombia, dispararon contra los deportistas y espectadores, y las autoridades ahora han ofrecido una recompensa a quien de pista sobre los sicarios. atroz el atentado terrorista en nigeria un hombre condujo un auto hasta un edificio de naciones unidas cobrando la vida de 16 inocentes, hasta el momento se desconoce quÉ grupo extremista cometiÓ el acto. y usted puede recibir esta y otras alertas sus crew biened se des su mÓvil enviando la palabra impacto al nÚmero en pantalla, los esperamos. >>>

that mafia so i believe the company is progressing on many levels in many respects. but of course we have to admit that like any revolution. any revolution has certain negative impacts on certain respects like the economy for instance but these things you know the go hand in hand was a revolution it's the egyptian revolution. will be an exception but i guess that the political reforms that the the the there were evolution as has managed to effect is the best guarantee to make a big comeback on the economy level yeah thank you so much for joining us good to hear your thoughts there life from conrad from the ironic newspaper thank you for your time thank you you thank. well by the way you can check out web site is www dot com for more stories news and videos indeed you can watch that interview once again. on the web site. for economic reform but also for international media attention. the president. might strike a chord with. those stories available right now and dot com now there's no sign of letting up in syria the crackdown and protests continues as government tanks

moment and tried to reassure people over its leaves for their problems is that even tempered called the mafia he added i have been able to deal with your field strength and i recently went through them so that was trapped at the show they were capable of going through another crisis and that they saw it he added you want to save a life and reduce it's really big and he didn't call for a payout of that sympathy here across of the many next steps although the crisis talks today that were held between italy and euro zone find that she showed those human the yield of the tiny and bull has reached record levels in europe history even in a war as well and they have the proper sewage method to get them to pursue the sewin bread and the anything above pick a bed is because of a novel and a sleep over at the expense of the moment fame is a lost cause crime is that the cerro that have counselled it call a day and return back with christ in madrid and italy national day of course it's much bigger than its g.d.p. it could make a product which calls for one eva of the troubles of people here and say here

that mafia so i believe the company is progressing on many levels on many respects. but of course we have to admit that like every revolution. every revolution has certain negative impacts on certain respects like the economy for instance but these things you know to go hand in hand was a revolution in egypt and the solution is not and will not be an exception but i guess that the political reforms that the b b b revolution has managed to effect is the best guarantee to make a big comeback on any level yeah you know thank you so much for joining us contain your thoughts and life through congress from the isle harmonic you paper thank you for your time thank you you thank. well by the way you can check out our website at www dot com for more stories news and videos and you can watch that interview once again if you want here's a sample of what's lined up for you right now at the moment on the web site voices many countries are now gripped by anti-government protests but in israel the demonstrators are hungry not just for economic reform but also for international medi

including the mafia. prison gangs are tribes. the willing embrace of adversity is another aspect of tribes. and you could make a case that when the american military trains these young recruits, what they are trying to do is make them into a tribe. make them, you know, make everybody wear the same clothe, have the same haircut, eat the same chow, do the same training, compel them to be together and force the love. they have to eat together and so on and so forth. and there are many other tribal qualities that sort of echo the warrior ethos. but this is what i really would love to hear what you think about this. this is where it kind of gets -- what i'm about to talk about is where it gets in a gray area in is a morally dubious area. two aspects of tribes that are very powerful and don't align with the warrior ethos is one is that a tribe exists for itself alone. if you think about the names of the -- that the american indian tribes had for themselves, like the navajo call himselfs the denay, which means the people. a lot of tribe

i'm thinking about native american tribes, tribes in the jungle, african tribes, prison gangs, the mafia, any sort of tribe like that are notoriously cruel particularly to captives, cruel to women and particularly cruel to captives, and whereas the warrior ethos is exactly the opposite that when anyone comes into power, into the power of two warriors, they take care of them, and there's no exploitation. you know, they might not give them steaks and baked potatoes, but they are not torturing the crap out of them. i'll fade out on that note here and ask what you guys think about how much force, you know, is okay to use, let's say talk about interrogating prisoners. you know what i'm talking about? i'm losing my articulation here, but in the gray areas, does the warrior ethos, does the classic warrior ethos apply to some of the situations that we're in today where the rules of engamingment are -- engagement are not hit with full fire power and blow them out of the water where you have counterinsurgency tactics and tribal engagement policies. does it -- i'm wonder if this themself. i don't h

libya those institutions have been stunted for forty three years it's basically been government by mafia what is there any indication at this point who's going to step into this massive power vacuum and what the nature of the group or the people will be who do so. ok here's what we know we know this transitional government has really said and really is likely to stand by the act they are purely transitional within thirty days they promise to hand over the country really to elections now some of the people who are parts of that transitional government oh ma bell is one who actually worked under the could up the regime reluctantly for many many years this is a guy who's quite well educated holds a couple of degrees from the university of pittsburgh and this is not a man looking to seize power and commit more atrocious human rights abuses so i think i'll go it's far too early to say that we're out of the woods i think in terms of actual intent of the transitional government we do see that libya has a shot toward a more peaceful future just in the last twenty four hours thirteen hundred peop

incredible entitlements there are huge embedded costs in the economy and ultimately all that washington mafia is doing is telling the united states of america the greatest economy we've ever seen in the world and that's a tragedy martin here in hong kong what joe biden was in china just recently to try to mend some fences i know that there was a basketball game right but i. what do you what are the chinese saying behind closed doors to people like joe biden because the mess that continues in the united states and in the euro zone impacts china in a really really big way. first of all our ups really agree this was what was best said about the eurozone in the us and then about asians and the second are some emerging markets countries really wanting to work and looking at their physical economy so that's what's happening in china they are focusing on technology and physical production running to work wanting to progress whereas the physical production has really given way to a game makes of finance in a large part of the united states and then in europe as well so while they're focused on the pr

." >> do you think there's chair sons to be made like the mafia? >> yes. even the attorney general has said this is run taliban-style. and that's really all the flds church is, in my opinion. is a organized crime family. break-away sect say that kind of assertion is nonsense. the polygamist leaders and followers who live here simply want to be left alone, to practice their religion as they see fit. but real violence, according to some neighbors, has crept into the community. this burned-out patch of grass in the town of colorado city, arizona, is ask evidence of what authorities say is very disturbing. they burned dozens of book here rather than let an opened library be built because they believe the books were collected by infidels. >> they burned things that didn't belong to them. they've broke noon the building. >> narrator: former flds member stephanie cogrove said she worked for more than two years to collect books for the library. a library independent of the church. what do they do with the books? >> they hauled them out of the building. >> and then

. >> you don't have to be a great mafia boss to see what you should be doing is to decide whether or not i should be president. you delegate and let him run it as he wants to. if you don't, can you get rid of them? to make the worst of zero votes is to keep him there cnf with the said stage situation and the actual core is not without incident. i went to the british ambassador recently. the president basically sat there for 25 minutes same bed counter insurgency strategy was of a waste of time, alienating the people he can understand why people joined the taliban and he may be paved -- join also. then they said it seems like we agree. [laughter] i don't have an answer except to say that but then going out exactly a that way. i can talk about that. but with the war crime treaty. thank you. >> you mentioned three aspects of how this stuff happens. i would like to read to more one is career. you spoke about that. it is beyond me to understand how people like clayton powell can somehow not speak on memorial day but yet we've for debt of this is one of the people who stood up before the u

they have institutional investigators to look at these mexican mafia and the like.s if they don't have the institutional wherewithal to examine and investigate these groups. it is just another group. nighters if we have to reinvent the wheel to evaluate and assess the danger presented by radical prisoners. >> i have an additional 30 seconds but the point is it is one group that we have to look at. anybody that poses a threat to our society to make sure our streets are safe. >> correct. my opinion this particular group of radicalized inmates present exponentially greater danger to innocent individuals and civilians on the outside. >> thank you so much. i have a few seconds. could i just allow -- >> i promised you an extra 30 seconds. >> may i introduce these to the record? >> could i yield to the late to introduce? >> that can't be restrained. mr. chairman, i would like to ask unanimous consent to submit to the record on fbi law enforcement bulletin regarding two prison radicalization and show you a statement on taxes based white supremacist gains -- banks -- with pa

. >> he acted like a mafia guy and fold him that nothing ever happened and there was subtle intimidation. >> this is not the first time he has been in trouble. he a former oakland police lieutenant who had one time had close ties with jerry brown. as attorney general he made him deputy director of the state justice department but he resigned after he was cited for a d.u.i. he has been credited with helping start a popular free summer camp where kids can play in a safe environment. >> he has been chief for the past two years. our calls to him were not rud. i did talk briefly to the african-american sergeant who says he is now lawyered up and he did not go into any of the details of the incident. meantime, the school district confirmed they are investigating this matter and that they have placed sarna under pay administrative leave. >>> if the state finances don't improve by december they may have to slash the academic year by two weeks maybe more meaning summer vacation would start in mid may. teachers are thinking about how to shorten their lessons. meanwhile, as summer vacation ends, se

do you think there are comparisons to be made like to the taliban or the mafia? >> absolutely. i mean even the utah attorney general has stated that the flds in this community is run taliban-style and that's really all the flds church is, in my opinion, is an organized crime family. >> reporter: attorneys for the break-away sect say that kind of assertion is nonsense, the polygamist leaders and their followers who live here simply want to be left alone to practice their religion the way they see fit. but real violence, according to some neighbors, has crept into the community. this burned down patch of grass in the town of colorado city, arizona is evidence of what authorities say is a very disturbing example. arizona state investigators say flds leaders burned dozens of books here, rather than let an open library be built, because they believe those books were collected by infidels. >> they burnt things that didn't belong to them. they broke and entered the building. >> reporter: former flds member stephanie culgrove says she worked for more than two years to collect the books

mafia who at the outset was one of the leaders of the french revolution, 1789 thomas sent the key to the best deal which was the prison and bastille day is still july 14th celebrated as the beginning of the french revolution. said that key to george washington and hang steady in mount vernon. that is his way to say you are responsible for our revolution and americans assumed that they were responsible and also thought they were responsible for all revolutions that took place that somehow they were in the vanguard of history spreading democracy around the world. but as the french revolution spirals into tyranny, then they became pessimistic about the ability of other people to be like them. that gave them the notion they were exceptional. which is very controversial, a comparison with you. but the hope, the dream, that other people would follow us has always been there. my last sa is one team to spread democracy around the world. but it by showing the world we could do that. mobilize saying then north and the last best hope and could we survive? napoleon iii was in the throne and the

. >> before getting locked up he was in a gang known for aligning themselves with the mexican mafia. >> it was kind of fun to me because back in the day, i loved violence when i was little. i never had a father, so that's probably where i didn't have enough discipline. i love fighting. that's just me. >> gangs weren't a problem for andrew huff. anger was. >> it's like when you're building up stress, it's like a bomb exploding. as soon as somebody gets you to a point, you explode. i fall down in tears and realize what you done was wrong. >> we don't ever want to send somebody back into the community that we don't feel can be successful. that's the ultimate goal. sometimes we're successful, and other times we just fail. >> andrew, are you ready? >> yeah. >> you're nervous? >> why don't you go ahead and talk to us about why you're in prison. >> i'm here for arson, breaking and entering, theft, and resisting arrest and probation violation. >> relax, okay? >> what we're doing here today is all about you. you said that you have anger issues that boil up inside of you. and that's what happe

they -- you know, they rule in the way that warlords or mafia bossesdo.ple, but this is what we've built, you know. >> rose: even though they wereny effective? >> you know, they were effective at carrying on dayo day. they were effective at helping the americans find people that they wted to kill and capture. >> rose: and they were noteffecr because of corruption? >> mostly. corruption and failed dysfunctional governance. nothing works. so -- and all u have to do really -- i mean f you go to kandahar, walk out on the street and art talking to people. everyone will tell you a story. they say the government came and plowed down my store and took the land. you know, i'm going to go join the taliban. >> rose: so when you come backte both doing now, and you go to washington and you ask people, who's in charge of afghan/pakistan policy, what do they tell you? >> well, they don't tell us anything, but, i mean, the impression certainly in pakistan and in afghanistan is that the policy is not being run out of the white house. it's run out of the cia and the pentag