and then there's magdi.everything that they do. >> we're not talking about thrifty. >> no. >> we're talking about squeezing every dollar until it bleeds. >> yes. i mean, to the point where you have a house paid off but you can't run the electricity for more than one room at a time. >> even though you have the money. >> absolutely. he has food that expires and he hoards it. it is about collecting money. >> and never paying out. >> correct. >> his sons described magdi as not only obsessed with work and money but also a strict disciplinarian. >> did you love him? >> yes. >> were you scared of him? >> yes. from when i was a kid. i felt like there was a line and i didn't want to cross anything. >> the brothers say they saw what could happen when they crossed that line. one night when ryan came home past curfew when he was 13. they say magdi simply lost it. >> he threw me on the floor and started kicking me. my brother had to pull him off me. >> your brother kind of shielded you. >> he did. >> it sounds like you w