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reporters maggie haberman and peter baker. peter standing by to talk to us in a moment. president talked about a wide range of topics many of which we'll cover here tonight. we begin with his comments on roger stone, his longtime political adviser, friend of 40 years who was arrested in ft. lauderdale, florida, last friday. the "times" reporters write that trump, "brushed off the investigations that have consumed so much of his presidency, saying that his lawyers have been reassured by the outgoing deputy attorney general rod rosenstein that the president, himself, was not a target. mr. trump said he never spoke with roger stone about wikileaks and the stolen democratic e-mails it posted during the 2016 election, nor did he direct anyone to do so. no, i didn't, i never did, he said, of speaking with mr. stone on the subject. did he ever direct anyone to get in touch with mr. stone about wikileaks? never did. he repeated, i've always liked -- i like roger, he's a character, mr. trump said, insisting that the fbi agents charging a house like they did

coverage medicare patients depend on. >>> we're back now with carl bernstein and jeffrey toobin and maggie habermanntinue our conversation now. maggie, i'm going to go to you first. talk to me about this. president trump has asked his advisers whether deputy ag rod rosenstein was intentionally misleading the president, about what? >> the president has told advisers that rod rosenstein had told him that the sdny investigation had nothing to do with the president. whether that was true, whether rod rosenstein thought that was true initially, it strained credulity a bit, because, you know, things related to the payoff involving women connected to president trump were mentioned in the search warrant of michael cohen's home and office and hotel room but maybe it changed, maybe that was true at the time. but regardless, that was something that the president said and he has mentioned to it investigators on multiple occasions. it's funny, "the times" did an interview with the president a couple of weeks ago and i asked him something, i don't remember what my exact question was, but he said, rod told me i'm

as powerful as maggie is, lying to maggie haberman is not a crime. >> no. >> lying upped oath nder soth. a lot of things made of this negotiation going ton prevent another shutdown. the president made clear to maggie and peter baker that he doesn't hold out much hope that this bipartisan group of congress people are going to reach an agreement. and i don't necessarily thinks he wants them to reach an agreement. listen to what he says. >> this is your first experience dealing with nancy pelosi having the gavel as the speaker. do you feel that you properly estimated her strengths? >> do you feel like you underestimated them? >> i've actually always gotten along with her but now i don't think i will anymore. i think that she's hurting the country very badly. i think nancy pelosi's hurting our country very badly by doing what she's doing. and ultimately i think i've set the table very nicely. >> set the table for -- >> i've set the table, i've set the stage for doing what i'm going to do. >> and your going to wait it out? >> i'm going to wait until the 15th. i think it's a waste of time. >>

i'll read an excerpt from your writing tonight with maggie haberman. "president dismissed the importance of the proposed trump tower his team was seeking to build in moscow at the height of the election, but he denied his own lawyer's account, rudy giuliani's account, of how late in the campaign he was still discussing the project. he also denied that his twitter messages about former associates who are cooperating with prosecutors in witness tampering." >> the first time he's been asked some of these questions, anyway. of course, michael cohen had been the one orchestrating this possible project in moscow. he's the one who first admitted he'd been lying about when that conversation had actually gone through. rather than january 2016, it went all the way through the summer of 2016. he said. rudy giuliani later said it actually could have gone all the way through november. the president said today, no, that wasn't the case. but you're right, these tweets about michael cohen have been pretty striking. michael cohen has taken them as threatening. the pres

the "new york times" maggi haberman is our political analyst and joins us now. gi, talk about your new reporting. that michael cohen offered up to federal prosecutors in new york. do we know how detailed it got or what we know about it? >> as we say in the piece, michael cohen met recently with prosecutors from the southern district of new york, which is where he pleaded guilty to talk about the trump organization. information related to insurance claims. we don't have more details than that. we don't know where these insurance claims were processed or what they were for, specifically. but that is what he talked about. he also was asked questions about imad zuberi, mentioned by name to the presidential inaugural committee a couple of weeks ago. there was a -- more of a business transaction between cohen and zuberi than was let on in an interview with the "new york times." there had been some check he had written to cohen. cohen apparently didn't deposit it, but zuberi played it off as if they had barely had any interactions. what this all adds up to, we don't kno

okay, let's bring in maggie haberman with "the new york times." joins us by phone. maggie, thank you for joining us here. you and peter baker interviewed the president tonight. he's talking about his long time friend roger stone. give us a headline there. >> sure, the president was number one very praising of roger stone, whom as you know he's known for several decades. he was emphatic he did not speak with roger stone about wikileaks. he was emphatic he did not direct anyone on the campaign to speak to roger stone about what wikileaks might have. and this is important because there's that vague line in the indictment against roger stone that says he was directed some time after july 22, 2016, that a senior campaign official was directed to get in touch with stone. we don't know who the senior official was and we don't know who directed that person, but the president definitively said it was not him tonight. seemed defiant about, you know, negotiations with congress, that his lawyers have been told by rod rosenstein he himself is not a target of investigations into h

okay, so let's bring in now maggie haberman with the "new york times," joins us by phone. she just did that interview. maggie, thank you so much for joining us here. you and peter baker interviewed the president tonight. he's talking about his longtime friend, roger stone. give us the headline there. >> sure. so the president was, number one, very praising of roger stone, who as you note, he has known for several decades. he was emphatic that he did not speak with roger stone about wikileaks. he was emphatic that he did not direct anyone on the campaign to go speak to roger stone about what wikileaks might have and this is important, too, because there's that vague line in the indictment against roger outspoken that says he was directed some time after july 22nd, 2016, that someone on -- that a senior campaign official was directed to get in touch with stone. we don't know who the senior official is and we don't know who directed that person, but the president definitively say it was not him tonight. he seemed defiant about, you know, negotiations with congress. said that h

reporter maggie haberman was there, and she joins our round table this week. the facts that matter this week. >>> good morning, and welcome to "this week." it was an ugly reminder of america's racist past. that 1984 photo from the medical school yearbook page of virginia's democratic governor, ralph northam. when it surfaced friday, condemnation from fellow democrats came hard and fast. northam acknowledged the photo and apologized twice saying it does not represent the person i am today. but by friday night, his fate seemed sealed, resignation inevitable. then came that dramatic aboutface on saturday. at a packed press conference in richmond, northam disavowed the yearbook photo. >> when i was confronted with the images yesterday, i was appalled that they appeared on my page, but i believed then and now that i am not either of the people in that photo. there is no way that i have ever been in a kkk uniform. i am not the person in that uniform and i am not the person to the right. >> but there was that one time. >> that same year, i did participate in a dance

but maggie haberman of "the new york times" tells me the president insisted the direction did not come from him. we're also learning that mueller's team has seized what they call voluminous and complex evidence from roger stone. this includes several years' worth of information collected from stone's icloud accounts, e-mail accounts and hard drives. also tonight, cnn has exclusive reporting that donald trump, jr.'s three mysterious phone calls before and after the now infamous 2016 trump tower meeting were not with his father. this is according to new information obtained by senate investigators showing the blocked calls were between don junior and two of his business associates. president trump seizing on the news tonight tweeting, "just out, the big deal very mysterious don junior telephone calls after the innocent trump tower meeting that the media and dems said were made to his father, me, were just conclusively found not to be made to me. they were made to friends and business associates of don. really sad." didn't credit us with the reporting because that's where it came from exc

giving us the analysis of everything that happened yesterday and in the past 24 hours. >> when maggie haberman is a little bit surprised you know it was significant. >> i lit my hair on fire at that point. >> maggie said, that was a little interesting. you're like, whoa. now that michael cohen has testified in public the question is what are democrats going to do about it? what's the next move? we'll talk to a key house member next. my experience with usaa has been excellent. they really appreciate the military family and it really shows. with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else? we know their rates are good, we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago. it was funny because when we would call another insurance company, hey would say "oh we can't beat usaa" we're the webber family. we're the tenney's we're the hayles, and we're usaa members for life. ♪ get your usaa auto insurance quote today. ♪ ♪ the kenya tea development agency is an organization that is owned by tea farmers. every week we sell this tea, w

. >> president trump did an interview with maggie haberman and peter baker of the "new york times" yesterdaythink we have sound from this. he tells them that he's been informed by the deputy toeattor general he's not a target of the investigation. >> well, he told the attorneys that i'm not a subject -- i'm not a target of, oh, yeah. >> did he say that in the sdny investigation? >> i don't know about that. >> there's two. mueller and cohen. >> i don't know about that. >> is this surprising that the president's legal team was informed he's not a target of the investigation? >> i don't know if it's a fact that his legal team was informed that the president is not a target. i don't think the fbi or the justice department goes around telling people whether or not they are or are not targets. even if one is not a target one could still be a subject of interest. everything that comes out of the president's mouth is, in my view, subject to question. >> again, if he's not under oath when talking to maggie haberman -- >> by the way, he still calls the investigation a witch hunt even as so many of his

okay, so let's bring in now maggie haberman with the "new york times," joins us by phone.erview. maggie, thank you so much for joining us

making maggie haberman said, you mean the media mischaracterized it? he said, you know what i mean. what happened in that room? >> he brings in dan coats, brings in gina haspel, seems to be in effect calling them on the carpet, why are you taking issue with me in public. what he tells them is, iran is bad, you're saying iran is good. they say, sir, we're not saying that. of course they're not saying that, what they said is iran is not currently known to be making progress toward a nuclear weapon, they're not building nuclear weapons at the moment even though the president has ripped up this nuclear agreement with them. it's not an endorsement of iran. likewise, the same thing on north korea and isis and so forth. so i think in effect, you know, what they tried to do is calm him down, make clear they're providing an assessment without intentionally trying to provoke him or impasembarrass him. >> and peter, their assessment was on global television, national television. we all carried it. >> right. >> it was live streamed. there's no question that they said what they said. and in fact

. >> laura: maggie haberman. a lot of other people.haberman, other journalists.ma chuck todd, they are all getting letters. every comment is going to be looked at carefully. that's how it works in defamation. i want to play really quick. this is from lin wood, the same video, second one. >> a bunch of... >> laura: a bunch of school shooters. a video most people didn't see. these are a bunch of school shooters there. >> it's gross. it's gross, the racial slurs and accusations and insults that were being hurled at these young men. you know, we are talking about adults who were hurling these things at teenagers. and how mr. sandmann in particular conducted himself in the face of those kinds of attacks, vile attacks. mr. phillips' friends were there with him, yelling at these kids to go back to europe. really disgusting, laura. >> laura: yeah, well, it's going to be interesting to seein how this plays out. all of these journals, a lot of celebrities, maybe they don't know better. a lot of the journalists, who frankly are supposed to do thi

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joining us now, maggie haberman, white house correspondent "the new york times." it's great have you here. sort of a visual tease coming into the segment. it's great to hear from you. >> thanks, john. good morning. >> there was some real interesting visuals last night with nancy pelosi sitting behind the president, the new members of congress or the women members of congress all dressed in white, the people in the president's box, the first lady's box up there. what's your major takeaway from last night sfwli ? >> i do agree with the people that this is his best speech. he doesn't give these speeches very often even though he does like the pomp around the state of the up on, he likes tradition. he delivered what were themes of a re-election in the manner that, you know, any other president has used this speech at this point in their tenure to do. i think the problem for this president is he has so few hearts and minds that he can change and when he says things like he did about the investigations last night, remember, some of that is about democratic house control

joining us white house correspondent maggie haberman and senior financial adviser david gergen.ent last week. do you believe he is fuming about this congressional oversight writ large or do you think there are specific areas he is concerned about? >> a, i don't know that he is actually fuming. i think there is a steady frustration with all of these investigations, and i think that it is everything mixed together. i think what you were seeing him try to do both in the state of the union and with the tweets this morning, and i think the tweets were fumy, but he is trying to basically say all investigations are the same. he is not separating them out. everything is a partisan effort against me. mueller is partisan, even though mueller is a republican who was appointed by a republican. sdny, that's all partisan because that's part of the deep state. this is all part of a broader delegitimizing effort by the president. he is, however, frustrated. anything that comes near his personal finances is something that worries him and alarms him, and we have heard this from people close to hi

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joining us is maggie haberman, cnn political analyst. are in the middle of what could be one of the biggest bits of news michael cohen claims here. he says he witnessed a conversation where roger stone told president trump there was about to be a massive dump of e-mail incriminating to hillary clinton. quickly, on july 2016, days before the democratic convention, i was in his office when he announced mr. stone was on the speaker phone and he had gotten off the phone and he said within a couple of days, there will be a massive dump of e-mails ethat would damage clinton's campaign. mr. trump responded by stating to the effect of wouldn't that be great? three weeks ago you asked the president of the united states whether he had such a conversation. let's listen to that exchange. . >> it seems to me what michael cohen says here and the president told you, beau of them can't be true. >> what i think is significant about that moment, remember roger stone had denied such a conversation took place because it had emerged previously. what is signi

i know maggie haberman was on here talking about that. seals to be speaking up about it or alarmed by it. >> isn't it the understanding that they're waiting for evidence, they're waiting for robert mueller's report, waiting for something to hang their hat on. >> i have to say the obstruction of justice there is one piece that there needs to be no piece of evidence. it's right before our eyes. >> like what? >> the president of the united states tweeted out that, you know, attacking at the time the attorney general jeff sessions for failing to quash indictments against two republican congressmen because he said they would lose those seats as a result. isn't that straight up corrupt? there is no explanation for that otherwise. >> he was not condemned by members of his party. >> go ahead josh. >> i want to add a backup for renato. it's not just a legal issue. if you think about it the president and as the "new york times" is reporting there is this strategy involved on discredited the investigation on multiple fronts, the issue here, when hav

. >> laura: i was falling maggie haberman of "the new york times" on twitter, she said, spotted at theone name. it's like -- >> sean: let me tell these fake newspeople something. as hard as they try, i am never, ever, in my life, going to confirm or deny my sources or who my friends are, my conversations. let them disclose bears. >> laura: i'm just teasing you. i know you had french fries at the white house. >> sean: that's not true. fake news. fake news. >> laura: hannity, great to have you in town.

. >> laura: hannity ifs following maggie haberman on twitter. she said spotted at the white house, hannity. >> sean: spotted with what? >> laura: just one name, like the caped crusader comes in. >> sean: let me tell the fake news people something. as hard as they try i am never, ever in my life going to confirm or deny my sources or who my friends are and my conversations. >> laura: i'm kidding you. >> sean: let them disclose theirs. >> laura: i'm just teasing you. i know you had french fries at the white house. >> sean: i did not eat at the white house, that's not true. fake news. >> laura: hannity it's great to have you in town, we really enjoyed it. great coverage last night. i'm laura ingraham this is the "ingraham angle" from dc. other show choc filled of news that you can't miss. what about believe all women? right? they said that. at least until they came after one of their own of course. we're going to expose the shocking double standard swamping the virginia democratic party tonight. plus defending a victim of gun violence congressman s

as you heard from maggie haberman there is a separate probe in the southern district of new york.t the president said he doesn't know. are the border security talks the president says a waste of time? he says house speaker nancy pelosi is hurting the country by not funding the border wall and he set the stage for exec tiuti action. a trump associate with something to fear from the mueller probe is due back in court again today. kara, what is roger stone doing in court today? >> reporter: roger stone is back in court this afternoon. he'll be before the judge that will oversee the case if it goes to trial, judge amy berman-jackson. will she impose a gag order and will the government seek it? because roger stone has been on tv, holding press conferences since he was charged on the seven counts of witness tampering, false statements and obstruction. the big question here is this something mueller's team will seek? it is not clear they will and it is likely stone's team will object to it. we did learn a little bit more about what the government has obtained from their search warrants w

according to maggie haberman, she said as often happens, white house was fully briefed on the story and didn't choose to say anything ahead of the publication. then the president comments afterwards. so he was fully aware of everything that "the new york times" was going to report. the statement that the department of justice also shooting down the allegation for him to do him a solid. the doj said under oath that acting attorney general whitaker stated that at no time has the white house asked for, nor have i provided any promises or commitments concerning the special counsel's investigation or any other investigation. mr. whitaker stands by his testimony. no question this will just add to the litany of items that the democrats will be investigating for the next 18 to 20 months. shep? >> shepard: thanks, john. remember the wording there. no promises or commitments. that's not what the times is reporting. fox news judge andrew napolitano is here. they're not saying -- the times is not reporting that matt whitaker provided promises or anything else. they're saying a phone call was made.

. >> laura: hannity ifs following maggie haberman on twitter. white house, hannity. >> sean: spotted with what? >> laura: just one name, like the caped crusader comes in. >> sean: let me tell the fake news people something. as hard as they try i am never, ever in my life going to confirm or deny my sources or who my friends are and my conversations. >> laura: i'm kidding you. >> sean: let them disclose theirs. >> laura: i'm just teasing you. i know you had french fries at the white house. >> sean: i did not eat at the white house, that's not true. fake news. >> laura: hannity it's great to have you in town, we really enjoye

we saw in the interview that he did with peter baker and maggie haberman where he said she's bad for the country. >> that's not a grace note. >> how do you go from bad to the country to madam speaker, will, you know, will you hold my hand and we can sing bipartisan notes of grace? i just don't see it happening. >> andrew, with public polling showing 60/40 against the construction of any further border wall, you got to wonder who the real constituency is for this remaining in that chamber. what can he say on the topic of the wall, for that matter, what can he say about any of this? >> yeah, i mean, i think jeremy is right here. i mean, he's going to be trying to, at least his aides want him to project a message of unity. they want this to be a conventional speech. but the reality is washington is anything but unified right now. the wall is a great example. you know, it's a device of policy. certainly nancy pelosi made it clear she has no interest in giving him any money for that wall. what can he say that's really going to change anything? it's a great question. frankly, what can he s

days can sit there with a straight face and say these things about what he thinks is beautiful, maggie habermanhat in your view is the free press? what does the free press do? in the same interview he makes it very clear what they do, they write one great story about a guy from queens who becomes president. he wants to see himself as he sees himself reflected on the pages of "the new york times." >> to me that was actually one of the most telling parts of the interview, nicolle, because "the new york times" is his hometown paper they should essentially cut him a break and give him some positive press, that that reflected, despite his earlier comments, a fundamental misunderstanding of the what the role of the free press is, which is to hold power to account and he sits in the ultimate position of power. that it is to shine a light on cronyism and corruption. you didn't hear any words like that so it kind of took back what he had previously said. to your point about falsehoods, it is also potentially just a projection. like the ultimate projection. because we have fact checkers. it is empiricall

. >> earlier maggie haberman of "the times" asked him a thoughtful question about the role of a freemocracy, and for a few moments there his answer verged on lofty. >> but what do you -- what do you see the role of the free press as? what do you think it is that the press does? >> it describes and should describe accurately what's going on in anywhere it's covering, whether it's a nation or a state or a game or whatever. and if it describes it accurately and fairly, it's a very, very important and beautiful thing. >> but then we remembered this was the president in that same oval office just hours earlier. >> mr. president, did you talk to your intelligence chiefs today about the displeasure you had with their testimony to congress? >> i did. they said they were totally misquoted and they were totally -- it was taken out of context. so what i'd do is i suggest you call them. they said it was fake news, which, frankly, didn't surprise me. excuse me. it didn't surprise me at all. but we're here to talk right now about china. >> all one day in the life of this president and his white ho

that somebody is leaking the president's personal schedule and that number two, let me find maggie haberman'se said a white house aide is weaponizing the president's schedules, which says a lot about how people in the white house feel about the man they work r for. so to all of the above, how concerning is ha for you? >> very. i just think any president, any presidency, any white house, staff, you know, should be concerned about that. i mean you know, we are annou e announcing these schedules that have been released or not aucll. there's a private schedule that's in a closer, r smaller group of people that gets to see that that has additional things on it. that the president would be doing that would not be on this more public schedule. that we've seen. but it's a breakdown and process and i think an earlier show on cnn, david gergen was on and had said this is a reflection of sort of the civil war going on. you know among staff in the white house, that they would do this and ultimately, they're hurting the president and that's not right for any presidency. >> as cliff sims tweeted, vipers ar

. >> our friend maggie haberman saying republicans are the only ones who have feared him. and they may fear him no longer. you have seen more republicans coming forward. i had an interview with cliff sims. he said something interesting addressed in last year's state of the union when the president would come back from the capitol he was so jazzed up by the applause he got. the white house staff and advisers all cheered him partially because they wanted him to know he could succeed if he tried to strike a more bipartisan or unifying message. tl there is something patron niezing about that. it's good, mr. president. but his advisers want it. >> nothing wrong with incentivizing good behavior. he does respond to the audience whether it's reporters. in that case it's rougher treatment. or his base or congress and the press coverage that comes in the wake of playing by the rules which he does every now and then. as i say with president trump, he can only keep a lid on his id for so long. it comes out eventually. he's not a traditional political actor. he does cross the lines doi

and at the very end he tells his aides when they call -- maggie haberman, let me speak to them. look at this morning's interview, president trump sitting down with cbs' margaret brennan. watch how trump says excuse me when he feels like he's being challenged by brennan. >> this surprised you about some of the questions that robert mueller asked you. >> well, look, the russia thing is a hoax. i have been tougher on russia than any president, maybe ever, but than any president. >> so when it comes to the investigation that the special counsel is conducting, 34 people have been charged here. >> excuse me. are you ready? okay. are you ready? of the 34 people, many of them were bloggers from moscow or people that had nothing to do with me, had nothing to do with what they're talking about, or they were people that got caught telling a fib or telling a lie. >> i always love seeing the president faced with the facts. when a journalist tells them the truth, makes him wrestle with the truth. you see the response there, excuse me, excuse me. he doesn't want to have to hear it. let's look

>> maggie haberman is tweeting as part of the "new york times" report saying, this subpoena is huge inpe and what the southern district of new york, what they're looking at another reminder that as mueller prepares to wind down, legal issues related to trump are going to continue to hang around in lower manhattan for a long time. and tim o'brien, there are some who have said donald trump's biggest problem is the one here in manhattan, the one who already has michael cohen's conviction and donald trump named as a conspirator in a nut case. >> they're actually just playing bingo and it's robert mueller playing three-dimensional chess. at some point in times past, he decided to hand off the investigation to the southern district of new york. this is when he was under a lot of pressure in washington to define the limits of his investigation, to make sure it was just a collusion investigation, or an obstruction investigation, when the whole thing could become a high crimes investigation. he has crimes that he's given to other jurisdictions that are outside the president's reach. that not on

. >> laura: i was falling maggie haberman of "the new york times" on twitter, she said, spotted at the white house, hannity. just one name. it's like -- >> sean: let me tell these fake newspeople something. as hard as they try, i am never, ever, in my life, going to confirm or deny my sources or who my friends are, my conversations. let them disclose bears. >> laura: i'm just teasing you. i know you had french fries at the white house. >> sean: that's not true. fake news. fake news. >> laura: hannity, great to have you in town. we really enjoyed it. great coverage last night. i'm laura ingraham. this is "the ingraham angle" from d.c. another show chock-full of news that you can't miss. by the way, what about "believe all women"? they said that. at least until they came after one of their own, of course. we are going to expose the shocking double standard swamping the virginia democratic party tonight, plus despite being a victim of gun violence, congressman steve scalise will tell estimate that the democrats are refusing to let him testify -- get this -- at a gun violence hearing. he's

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just because maggie haberman and other people in the article. >> three others. >> just because otherof corrupt intent my virtue of these things doesn't make it so and make it a case that could be proven in court. that's the standard. >> how is the president not above the law if he is able to stop investigations into him or that he does not like? >> the president is not above the law, but the president is a unique feature of our constitutional system, and he has the authority to make executive decisions, which include who are those who are loyal to him who feel executive branch functions. and to try to then in every instance equate motivation to make an executive determination is somehow constituting evidence of obstruction of justice i think is on thin constitutional ice. i think it's on very thin statutory ice for reasons that bill barr explained. with regard to the obstruction of gist 'tis statute. and frankly, if you are going to make that the basis of an impeachment referral, you will have to have more of a tie to a common law violation of a criminal statute in order to really ha

the president, according to the reporting of maggie haberman and the other reporting, the republicans didn't do a good job. they should have leaned on me more. in the end, it would appear at least, looking forward to reporting on it, it would appear that he found himself in a position that really wasn't going to work for part of his base as evidenced on the airwaves and took this extra step that some people in the end at least weren't expecting. they were expecting it five or six weeks ago. >> he is very alert to certainly sean hannity on fox and laura ingraham who has been an immigration hawk for many, many years. another person who has a lot of influence is lou dobbs on fox business who is also had been serious about this issue for a long time. very aligned with the president. so those voices do matter. i think they can be overstated as well. i think that the president really does -- this is an issue that he does care about. it's very -- this is one of those issues for him, a signature issue when he sees it as definitional for his presidency. so i think it can sometimes be overstate

let's talk about the present tense because maggie haberman and others is saying that jared kushner is acting as ade facto chief of staff, that his power has never been greater inside this white house. you're very critical of him in the book. do you think that's a dangerous situation for the president? >> i think that the president, it's always difficult and that's why it's very rarely happened when you have family in official positions. families have always been informal advisers to presidents, and really since bobby kennedy we haven't had a situation where a family member has had such an important position as both jared and ivanka hold in the white house. the problem is, if they do something wrong, it's hard to fire people that you have to have thanksgiving dinner with, right? and on the other hand, people inside the white house also are going to be defer to them because they know that they get the last word. they're the ones in the residence, they're the ones going to mar-a-lago on the weekend or to bedminster, new jersey. so these are difficult things and i think the president -- h