we have some great guests standing by, maggie haberman, oliver darry, maggie haberman and many more. reporters historians like to talk about the big picture. this current crisis is so big it feels almost impossible to zoom all the way out. that's why it's so important to try. one way is by reaching for comparisons, but the current unemployment rate is the highest in living memory. there's nothing to compare it to unless you were alive during the great depression of the 1930s. the "new york times" tried to capture this staggering number on their saturday front page by taking over the right side showing the dramatic change in employment by taking up the front page that way. look, it's a time to be creative, try new ways to tell the story because the economic crisis and the health crisis are both daunting. the death toll in the u.s. is nearing 80,000. the those are just the cases we know about. most experts believe that's an undercount. we're talking about more fatalities than during the vietnam war or any terror attack in the u.s. or any hurricane in modern american history. while grou

maggie haberman as well. to maggie's point on testing, that new study warning that abbott's i.d. now, which was a quick covid-19 test, it frequently gives false negative results. the covid-related syndrome affecting kids. new evidence the virus attack -- attacks multiple organs in the body. going to have an update on all that and the apparent clash between medical realities and what the president would perhaps like them to be. joining us is cnn chief medical correspondent sanjay gupta. also, michael olsterholm. >> when you hear dr. fauci she o play all sides of the equation. i don't know if the sides are politics and -- or if he thinks it's democrat and -- i don't know what the sides are. >> i don't know what the sides are, eergtither, anderson. i think dr. fauci's been consistent in what he's been saying all along here. this idea that, would a vaccine be available by the fall? dr. fauci, you know, he is very careful with his words. i think the way he phrased it was, that would be a bridge too far, i think to suggest that a vaccine would be available by the fall. a vaccine's not

maggie haberman as well. there is plenty to talk about purely on the medical side. to maggie's point on testing, the new study that abbott's id now frequently gives false negative results. the covid symptoms affecting kids, the virus attacks multiple organs in the body. the clash in reality and what the president would like them to be. joining us is cnn's chief medical correspondent sanjay gupta and michael osterholm. when you hear dr. fauci wants to play all sides of the equation, do you understand what that means? i don't know if the sides are science and politics or he thinks it's democrat and -- i don't know what the sides are. >> i don't know what the sides are either, anderson. i think that dr. fauci has been pretty consistent in what he's been saying all along here. i mean, i think one of the things that came up yesterday was this idea that would a vaccine be available by the fall. and dr. fauci either -- he's very careful with his words. i think the way he phrased it was that would be a bridge too far i think to suggest that a vaccine would be available by th

. >> joining us now political analyst maggie haberman, white house correspondent. i've heard overnight that this is something that has been on the president's mind all night. we saw the statement and read a statement he put out on twitter. >> i think the president will put out something more. he will describe what took place as sad and tragic, say he wants answers and say something supportive of law enforcement. i expect again that we will get a similar statement. look, what it will be important for the president to do to not say anything that will conspiracy the pot and add to the scenes that we're seeing out of maiinneapolis right now. the unrest that followed from the death of george floyd. i don't think that the president is somebody who the people will look to for comfort on a number of matters after 3 1/2 years now. but, again, it will be important not to stir the pot. the situation is obviously very, very tense there. one thing i was truck by the president used the word sad and tragic. it is true. it is sad and tragic. but it's something much more than that.

. >>> and joining us, chief of infection diseases and cnn political analyst maggie haberman, white house correspondent for the "new york times." doctor, put up the new york numbers to see the progress made in this state. a very steep decline in the number of cases. and to an extent, that's the story over a large swath of the country. put up the map here and you can see the areas where the case counts are going down. all of them in green are going down. the ones that are sort of beige holding steady. red, cases are going up. notable. cases going down in states like new york, also by the way, in georgia, which began reopening more than two weeks ago. again, given that the case count is going down in new york, and given that states have reopened and still have their case numbers go down, why do you think the decision was necessary from governor cuomo to extend the stay-at-home orders for most of the state another month? >> right. very good points. we have to remember if someone contracts the virus it can take up to a week, up to ten days to show symptoms. it's not you immediately reopen a s

joining us now, cnn political analyst, maggie haberman. in some ways, i guess it's not surprising.he president is setting fort the narrative he would like to see. that is we move forward with the economy, it's going to be a little rough but we're good, we're moving on. that's not the case, of course, despite the fact that he's winding down the task force. >> i think that's right. look, it's very clear that the white house wants to put the economy front and center. that's what they want to move toward and want the emphasis on that as well as a vaccine and therapeutic drugs to treat covid-19. as you point out, that's not the reality of where this virus is right now. the task force has been problems from the beginning. there were issues about people left off of it. over the iteration, it was taken over by mike pence, jared kushner working. this task force is where the medical professionals have been involved. the white house insists they will still be involved. this doesn't mean they're going anywhere. what it also means, candidly, there's not going to be an opportunity for the presid

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joining us now is maggie haberman, white house correspondent at the new york times. great to see you. this morning, let's talk about what's going on inside the white house. so these two people in the inner orbit of president trump and vice president pence, katie miller, the spokesperson for pence and president trump's personal valet have tested positive. now that they're doing contact tracing, do they know how these two people were exposed? >> as far as we know, alisyn, they don't. and if they do, they have not said and we should be very clear they publicly released very little information about both cases and the case of katie miller, reporters were not reporting her name as they were refusing to release it at the time. and then the president blurted it out in part because he is annoyed that there is another case that is close to him at a public event on friday. so we don't know how they caught it and they may never know, but we do know that it created a sense of enormous anxiety within the white house, not for everybody, but for a number of people who are now scare

maggie haberman is with us as well. you've been doing some really outstanding reporting on all of this. what do you anticipate? are we going to hear from the president tonight? will he show his concern, his anger over the awful nature of what has just happened to so many american people? >> reporter: the white house, wolf, is struggling with how to have the president respond to this because as jim correctly said showing empathy whether because he can't or won't is just not something the president is good at. but this is a grim and awful milestone, and it is important for citizens to hear from their leaders around moments like this. that has been something that not just the president but candidly a lot of his advisers have struggled with understanding or communicating to him that it's important for the public to hear from the president in a moment like this. we hear a lot about the president's feelings, about how he feels attacked or criticized or he feels upset because television has criticized him. but at the end of th

you're worried about the next ten minute, as maggie haberman said. always trying to survive the next ten minutes. never thinking ahead. you're incapable. you need to think ahead here, okay? you need to understand that if you rush people to reopen their businesses, if you keep lying to americans, how things are going to get better, just like you lied to americans, saying it was only one person and it was going to go away in january, and then in february you said it was 11 people and it was going to go away. in march, you said it'd go away magically in april. you were looking forward to april. talked to african-american leaders and told them it was going to be like magic, and it was going to disappear. you start talking to dr. birx. i'm not a doctor, dr. birx, but you ought to look into disinfectants and injecting them. >> so embarrassed. >> putting lights into people's bodies, to see if that beats the virus. continuing to lie. the vaccine was going to be ready soon. said that back in -- >> anyone can have a test. >> -- in march. >> anyone who wants a