we've got lots to talk to, including maggie haberman. you just saw that from the new york times, she's going to join us in just a few minutes to give us a window into what's happening right now. and former president donald trump's camp, there's always something so we hope you'll stick around for that. espn stephen a. smith, i just saw him in the hallway looking very lovely and a shade of salmon like that jacket. >> i thought it was pink >> it's really salman. >> there'll be >> here in just a few minutes do because it feels like we were talking about this all day today. we have to talk about the biggest story in the country right now, which is what charles barkley march. march madness. march madness. he has but the number ones for staying gone today is march madness. women? yes. yes, we are having a ball, but we're having a moment and you know that beyond say song, who run them? well girls, it's a shining moment for women's basketball. i know, you know all about it. let's hear it for the ladies. caitlin clark, we're talking about you, ang

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thank you so much coming up next, as we mentioned, trump biographer maggie haberman, losing the court today. also, there's breaking news in the documents case. a witness now saying the former president promise to pardon his co-defendant, his valet, walt nauta, in a second term also, a live report from the campus of columbia university. were pro-palestinian demonstrators have been out in force and jewish students have been living in fear more ahead one aleve works all day. >> i can keep talking just want to leave 12 hours of uninterrupted pain-related. >> i'll leave you do take it for and for fast topical pain relief, trial event. >> nothing dems my life like a migraine with nortech ott. i found really the only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent all-in-one to those with migraine. i see you. >> review acute treatment of migraine with aura without oraa and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults don't take if allergic to nortech odi team allergic reactions can occur even days after using most common side effects are nausea in digestion and stomach pain. >> i

maggie haberman had a bird's-eye view of trump, the lawyers, the jurors and the judge. i'm kaitlan collins. and this is the source imagine showing up for jury duty and finding out that you might have a front row seat for the next several months to be the first criminal trial of a former president. and that you could be one of the people who will decide if donald trump should be a convicted felon? and potentially shape his political fate. and while you're being questioned, there is the guy sitting right there who stock and trade has often been intimidation throughout his career. >> well, that >> was what greeted 96 menn he tonight's on a beautiful spring day. you're in new york today. >> it's a bit chilly >> or though in the courtroom at one point, every available seat in that courtroom gallery and the jury box was filled. >> but at about the time >> it takes to say, hush money, at least 50 perspective jurors were told that they could leave. they had raised their hand and said they could not be fair and impartial in this trial. judging from today's proceedings, it could

. >> as raising serious concerns plus maggie haberman is here to answer your questions about the trial and justin, a new twist and the shocking idaho student murders bryan kohberger's defense haim, revealing his long awaited alibi, plus the nba does something it hasn't done in 70 years. they've banned a player for life over a gambling scandal. the story and the fallout tonight. and laura coates live all right, just in tonight, a social media post from donald trump that's raising a lot of questions about whether he violated the gag order. it is hush money case. he's quoting fox host jesse watters saying this. they are catching undercover liberal activists line to the judge in order to get on the trump jury unquote. now, that's completely unsubstantiated in charge. you do realize but does it also violate the gag order? i want to bring in formal power prosecutor, renato mariotti, renato, so glad you're here. i mean, frankly this question has been looming for some time. will he violate the gag order? has way he's done so far violate the gag order. now, this is opposed to truth social. ther

i'm joined now by cnn political analyst and your time senior political correspondent maggie haberman and maggie, i know you perhaps some new reporting tonight on the very issue that we were just discussing with trump's former attorney jim trustee. >> how >> do those who remain on his legal team view this issue of using the pra, the presidential records act to claim the documents our personal yes. every on it look, they were not surprised by the fact that this is the way that the judge ruled. remember, she has taken a very long time on rolling a number of motions in this case, there's a huge backlog. it has sort of gummed up the works and their strategy has been this blitz of filings to delay all of these trials. it's actually been pretty effective and they're pretty open about the fact that they think has been effective. >> she didn't >> totally close the door on the notion of the presidential records act coming up at trial. and so because of that, you will continue to hear about this from donald trump, who has been saying this since it was put in his head in february of 2022, and i e

political commentator and senior political correspondent for the new york times and trump biographer maggie haberman. >> and >> maggie, i mean, just to hear this quiet, but a big departure from the trump legal team. >> yeah. it's very interesting because as you say, corcoran is a key witness. if this case ever goes to trial, he provided prosecutors and it was under subpoena. this was as you noted prosecutors went and pierced the attorney-client privilege under the crime fraud exception, the trump team had fought this. there was nothing corcoran could do, but corcoran kept notes. >> he >> he he had recorded notes of his conversations with trump and those were extremely helpful to prosecutors as they were trying to figure throughout certain things that had taken place in the aftermath of their repeated efforts to try to get these documents back and their trip to mar-a-lago to try to get documents back. now one of the things that we have seen with trump repeatedly is lawyers leaving him. and what that ends up looking like or other witnesses and allies leaving him and what that ends up looking like. he'

you very much for that exclusive new poll result i want to bring him our cnn political analyst, maggie haberman, who was inside the trump trial in new york. >> earlier today, maggie, thanks so much for joining us. i know you've been watching this trial up close inside the courtroom. and almost daily basis. what did you observe about trump's demeanor today? and where is his head at right now sure. >> so wolf, he shook his head several times as david pecker was testifying, it's actually among the most animated we have seen him. it's the kind of reactions that he had during, say, the e jean carroll trial though he was much more pronounced there in january earlier this year, but this was uncomfortable testimony from david pecker walking the jury through narrative about engaging with trump's former personal lawyer, michael cohen about killing, stories about trump's involvement with two women. and in particular pecker told stories about engaging with trump while trump was president and having a conversation that related to one of these women. >> yeah, that's interesting. we're just getting the exhibi

maggie haberman, a jonathan swan report that sources say mr. trump wants him to attack witnesses attack with the former president sees as a hostile jury pool and attack the judge seen as brynn gingras, outside the court this morning, who are we expected to see on the stand? where are we yeah john you know, that report very interesting and possibly some of that iron that we're hearing about from maggie haberman and jonathan swan comes from last week, if you remember that gag order hearing now, we're todd blanche jackpot, his arguments against it, and the judge saying there that he was losing all credibility, so possibly it stems from now, but just quickly about blanche, of course, he is one are said to be one of trump's favorite. >> attorneys. he's representing him and two other criminal indictments. obviously, this is the first one to go to trial, but according to the new york times reporting he is saying that he's not being aggressive enough in this trial and actually complaining about how much his lawyers are costing him. but i have to tell y

thank you so much coming up next, as we mentioned, trump biographer maggie haberman, who was in the court today. also, there's breaking news in the documents case. a witness now saying the former president promised to pardon his co-defendant, his valet walt nauta, in a second term also, a live report from the campus of columbia university. were pro-palestinian demonstrators have been out in force and jewish students have been living in fear. morehead when you're the leader that's the cleanup and restoration, how do you make like you've never even happened? >> happened brand whatever comes your way. there's a pro for that. serve crow like it never even happened doug hello, ghostbusters. >> it's duck. >> of doggedly moon. we help people customize and save hundreds on car insurance with liberty mutual anyway we got a be the situation here sure i can only pay for what you need those are supposed empire in theaters now somebody would ask her something and she would just walk right past he didn't know they were talking to her. i just could not here. >> i was testing they tend to get the hearing

are maggie haberman and others that he fell asleep in the courtroom yesterday or appeared to nod off. but is this the kind of look that you think he wants to send over the next several weeks where this will be a large part of where he's spending his campaign luck. >> this isn't the look of someone who was the former president of the united states. this isn't the look of who scott jennings and his party have nominated to run for president of the united states. >> this is the look >> of a criminal defendant. and he has the same behavior as criminal defendants. i'm a criminal defense attorney. i do that. i do that what and many of my defendants, many of my clients are in the same precarious predicament and they had that same type of reaction when asked questions. i mean, it's it's more fear than anything else. you don't have control over the situation around you, donald trump, it has completely lost control of the situation in the courtroom. and that's what you're seeing. you're seeing this very palpable fear of a criminal defendant. let's not forget that now he is on the other end of th

and so we are relying on the fantastic maggie haberman and others who are in the courtroom to tell usou see what the defense actually did? trump's people actually did. they denied it. they said it did not happen, and that it was lies. and so at this point, it's not but it's not only donald trump who's on trial. it is actually, again, as with everything to do with donald trump reality and truth itself. and there will be a segment of the population who simply do not believe that he nodded off if this had happened on television and you were all playing that tape, it might have had an impact of the way that people perceive this trial. but instead, it is going to again be filtered through the partisan lens. >> and moreover, he is the former president, has this tendency to take a fact that's based in some truth, legally or whatever else and spin it do an absolute y and every single one of these small rulings that he wins, he can come out that afternoon. we won winning this whole trial. can you understand why we're no one understands why we're even here. >> there are some trumpy and sillines

he is also mad at maggie haberman of "the new york times" because she was the first to report that healling asleep in court. the good news is maggie did not report that trump was falling asleep today. that duty fell to another reporter from the times, susanne craig. who wrote, "trump is struggling to stay awake. his eyes were closed for a short period. he was jolted awake when todd blanche, his lawyer, nudged him while sliding a note in front of him." tomorrow, the judge will officially weigh in on whether el ron tubbard violated the gag order he's been violating repeatedly all week on truth social and even in front of the courthouse. >> has to come off. people are allowed to speak and i have a gag order. just to show you how much unfair it is. the gag order has to come off. i should be allowed to speak. and the second thing is i have to be release to have had gag order. they've taken away my constitutional rights to speak. and that includes speaking to you. i have a lot to say to you, and i'm not allowed to say it. >> jimmy: that's right. the guy speaking to you is not allowed to spe

maggie haberman at "the new york times" puts it this way.te, it is hard to recall any other time trump has been forced to be bored for so long. quote, the shared sense among many of his advisers is that the process may damage him as much as a guilty verdict. the process they believe is its own punishment. if the process is the punishment here, what should we expect from what the next few days are likely to be like, with likely no more protesters and testimony we can sort of see coming around the corner that seems like it might be more boring than anything that's yet happened. how much worse is this about to get for him? and can he pull the rip cord to get out of it? that's next. (man) mm, hey, honey. looks like my to-do list grew. "paint the bathroom, give baxter a bath, get life insurance," hm. i have a few minutes. i can do that now. oh, that fast? remember that colonial penn ad? i called and i got information. they sent the simple form i need to apply. all i do is fill it out and send it back. well, that sounds too easy! (man) give a litt

unfortunately, the trial isn't televised, but there are reporters in the courtroom, including maggie habermanf the "new york times," who let us in on this little gem -- "trump appears to be sleeping. his head keeps dropping down and his mouth goes slack." followed by "trump has apparently jolted back awake, noticing the notes his lawyer passed him several minutes ago." if biden is "sleepy joe," i guess that makes you "dozo the clown." can you imagine if joe biden fell asleep in the court on the first day of his trial. trump would be calling him "comatose joe" and fox news would be talking about it until christmas. but not old donny napleseed. multiple reports said trump's head drooped until his chin hit his chest, which maybe he was just following the price of his truth social stock. either way, it's nice to see that even donald trump is exhausted by donald trump. today was devoted to jury selection. they started with a pool of 500 jurors. they brought in the first 96 and right off the bat, half of them said they couldn't be fair and impartial, and so they were dismissed. so then they asked t

his only campaign appearance was in a bodega in new york which maggie haberman described as more of atop for a merrill candidate than someone running for president. how is this trial impacting his campaign? could trump just focus on campaigning in new york and in this area on his days off? could that be a good political move for him here? >> i think he is caged in, and he will try to get as much media attention as he can. the bodega stop was certainly media attention. he was supposed to be going to see and men in his situation in new york that plays to his hole defending, people that had been allegedly subjected to a crime. so i think he's going to try, and every way he can, to keep the media attention on him as well as keep the attention away from the trial, so it was double-barreled friend. take the media from court on center street, bring them somewhere and that's up in that part of harlem and at the same time, trying to underscore his empathy for who he feels are victims. you could tell it was done so somberly and readily that the guy wasn't even there. and even get a flight back

maggie haberman, in the courtroom, reporting for the "new york times" under the headline, a weary trumpppears to doze off in courtroom. former president trump donald j trump seemed, alternately irritated and exhausted by monday morning, as his lawyers and prosecutors passed out pretrial motions before jury selection in his criminal case. is to trump appeared to nod off a few times, his mouth going slackened his head dripping onto his chest. the former president's lead lawyer, todd blanche past him notes, for several minutes, before trump appeared to jolt awake and notice them. under the headline, trump seems to not off, briefly, as prospective jurors get instructions, the "washington post" reports, quote, former president trump closed his eyes , and appeared to nod off at times in a monday courtroom as prospective jurors were instructed on what they would need to do to serve on the jury in his hush money criminal trial. trump closed his eyes several times, he then abruptly caught himself and stiffened his posture.'s attorneys, todd blanche and bully refilled his drink and gave each othe

>> you know, mark, maggie haberman of the new york times writes "people close to trump are anxious about how he will handle having so little to do as he sits there on weeks on end. it has been decades since he's had to spend so much time in the immediate vicinity of anyone who is not part of his family, his staff, or his strong of admirers." what kind of impression is trump making with the jury? >> he has made a poor impression with the potential jurors so far. we know he has looked hostile and aggressive as jurors, they have paraded before him, saying their true feelings about the former president. this is manhattan. many of those feelings are far from positive. a lot of these potential jurors have criticized him, saying things to his face that he has not heard in person for many years since he is so insulated from the criticism. jurors pick up on that and they pick up on body language and on muttering. they will take it as a sign of untrustworthiness that they might have something to hide. it is not going to play well for him once that actually goes to trial this coming weeks. >> hey,

maggie haberman put it this way, quote, it is hard to recall any other time trump has been forced toed sense among many of his advisers is that the process may damage him as much as a guilty verdict. the process they believe is its own punishment. if the process is the punishment here, what should we expect from what the next few days are likely to be like, with likely no more protesters and testimony we can sort of see coming around the corner that seems like it might be more boring than anything that's yet happened. how much worse is this about to get for him? and can he pull the rip cord to get out of it? that's next. at's next. now that i have inspire, i'm free from struggling with the mask and the hose. inspire? inspire is a sleep apnea treatment that works inside my body with a click of this button. where are you going? i'm going to get inspire. learn more and view important safety information at inspiresleep.com. >> tech: at safelite, we'll take care of fixing your windshield. learn more and view important safety information but did you know we can take care of your insurance

but the media were hungry for something more scintillating, and maggie haberman, of "the new york timesrovided it. >> he appeared to be asleep. repeatedly, his head would fall down. howard: and that reverberated through the media echo chamber. i'm howard kurtz and this is "mediabuzz." ♪ howard: in the battle over jury selection, there's a deep ideological divide among the pundits. >> show me a juror who says they can be unbiased towards trump, and i'll show you a liar. that's why we don't have political trials in america. fairness is impossible. >> make no if mistake, this is no ordinary trial, this is a taxpayer-funded, media-promoted political smear campaign against donald trump. of. >> he went on another posting spree on his social media grift this morning scream ising about how his trial is an assault on america. >> the crime isn't just being friends with the guy that owns "national enquirer," it's the change of money, it's the fabrication of the stories. howard: joining us now to analyze the coverage in nashville, tommy lair, fox news commentator and host of tomi lahren is fearless

. >> as raising serious concerns plus maggie haberman is here to answer your questions about the trial and justin, a new twist and the shocking idaho student murders bryan kohberger's defense haim, revealing his long awaited alibi, plus the nba does something it hasn't done in 70 years. they've banned a player for life over a gambling scandal. the story and the fallout tonight. and laura coates live

issue, trump was having trouble staying awake, apparently reporting from inside the courtroom, maggie haberman said it trump appeared to not off a few times his mouth going slack and his head drooping into his chest. unfortunately, this is just the very beginning of a child but expected to last up to six weeks. it trump is required to be in the courtroom every day. the ex-president has told reporters that he will take the stand even though it is not necessary but if that will actually happen, it remains to be seen. donald trump is learning in real time that the criminal court is nothing like the court of public opinion join me now to discuss this is a daily commons and host of the show that dean of the dollar show. a democratic strategist for the obama campaign as well as sirius xm hose. and former federal prosecutor and legal affairs,'s politico. this is a former present who reportedly used to receive a folder full of positive news about himself and press clippings may be up to twice a day. how do you think this reality is setting in for opinions of the jurors in their regular process of a cr

do you know about how engaged and alert the former president it seems today because yesterday, maggie haberman said he appeared to doze off yeah at times >> anderson and donald trump had his eyes closed. but at other points, he had the jury questionnaire that written document in his hand following along as a jurors were being questioned. and when his lawyers and the prosecutor's had the 18 jurors in the box where they each side had 30 minutes to pose their questions. donald trump appear to be following along, even turning his body to look at this to pay attention to try to get some sense from the jurors of what they were thinking >> kara scannell, thanks so much. showing is now two former federal prosecutors, jeffrey toobin, jessica roth, also jury consultant. alan turkheimer. so jeff, you predicted last night that this trial would move along and typical fashion. and here we are tonight. seven jurors already seated. does the pace even exceed what you expected? >> it does. this is >> really fast and the judge suggested he didn't say commit, but he said today that he thought opening statements c

good behavior today, keeping quiet when he needed to keep quiet, answering the judge in fact, maggie haberman says she was in the courtroom. she says he even appear to nod off. at one point, which may be many of our viewers can find relatable if you've ever been to court >> but do you think his attorney he's are worried that he will ultimately get in his own way by acting out in court as he did, for instance, during the e jean carroll case? yeah. i don't i don't think so. i mean, i don't have any inside scoop there in terms of talking to the attorneys, but yeah. >> look, this >> is even in new york, even if the judge has some still it to president trump, which the gag order would suggest he does this is a tribal case. i mean, any litigator is champing at the bit at the notion of cross-examining michael cohen. i think the strategy, if your president trump's lawyers yeah, there's a whole bunch of legal novelty which i would call frailty to this case. but at the end of the de you want to make it about michael cohen. and if you can make it about a convicted perjurer, about a failed cooperator and

maggie haberman in the nshlg "new york times" has an interesting article this morning about trump's lawyers are doing as much to please him as they are to convince the jury on what happened here. are you concerned that by failing to concede anything about his conduct, they are making it a tougher case? >> oh, very much so. i mean, this is a case where all of the pecker testimony, i believe is all true. i believe it's not criminal. i mean, the idea of paying somebody hush money, the idea of, you know, putting out false stories against rivals, as amoral and reprehensible as that is, it is legal. other campaigns have done it. i mean, even, you know, during that same campaign, we had, you know, the steele dossier, clinton pee tape or trump pee tape, all of that. so that's all legal, so you're much better off as a defense attorney saying all of this stuff here, that's not in dispute. we agree with all of that, but that's not a crime. the only crime is this thing right here just focused right in on these records, and really laser focus on that, and if you do that, you can make things such simpler

. >> maggie haberman, our friend and colleague at the new york times, has a new story up around this trial and she writes this, let me put it up on the screen. the question of what is true, or at least what can be proven is that the heart of any trial. but this particular defendant? it's been five decades spewing thousands and thousands of words sometimes contradicting himself within minutes sometimes within the same breath with little concern for the consequences of what he said. what are your thoughts on that? >> yeah. i mean, i feel like all of the legal proceedings that we've seen with trump, the defamation case with e. jean carroll, the civil fraud case from the new york attorney general, just underscores the difference between his potential vulnerability in the legal world and in the political world. the political world there is, there in his electorate, there is essentially no consequence for lying in the political and legal world. >> there can be there obviously is kind of a fog of misinformation that surrounds him that will make it more difficult in any in any case, but ulti

it is famous, in fact, maggie haberman who follows donald trump closely, and knows him says in the past-mail. again, this whole idea of a paper trail, there is almost no paper trail, right that they can't come up with that rhona graff would have had? >> she is sort of the personification of the paper trail. >> that's exactly what i was going to say, rhona graff is the paper trail, the human paper trail for donald trump. >> you heard from david pecker, there was no formal agreement. donald trump at the time. she is that person. she puts people in the oval office potentially. she puts people in private meetings. she is that paper trail, the personification, absolutely. >> the last part of what tim said, what's the one question, and he gave us three, one was about how many women maybe that there was communication about, how many did, you know, they want to keep quiet, but the last part is related to the prospect of the campaign, and that really is the heart of this, right? >> that is, and some of that may not be admissible, how many other women, there's issues about tainting that jury. >>

and we're talking about netanyahu, but there's also reporting from new york times as maggie haberman tonight, that the former president donald trump, actually it comes into this mix. he spoke recently with saudi arabia's prince mohamed bin salman. the context, the conversation is unclear. we don't know all of that but this was the first publicly disclosed conversation since trump left the white house. what do you make of this meeting >> i think trump is reaching out to former allies and saying, you hold fast, i'm on my way back in because he firmly believes that while trump is reported to have said some disturbing things to a right-wing jewish group of people that he thinks the fighting in gaza should stop i think once if he does win, the white house back, the people who advise him on the middle east they remained loyalists. they didn't become never trumpers. they're likely coming back in. and i think that they would very quickly convince him that he's got to stay the course with israel allow it to do whatever it needs to do to fight hamas and biden is in the tough situation of, yes,

york times donald trump is not happy with how it all is going so far as john was talking about maggie haberman and jonathan's one of the new york times reporting this. let me read you just a little bit. although mr.. mr. blanche, todd blanche has lead attorney, has been mr. trump's favorite lawyer for some time behind closed doors and in phone calls, the former president has complained repeatedly about him in recent some weeks. according to people familiar with the situation, he's ghraieb that mr. blanche, a former federal prosecutor and veteran litigator, has not been following his instructions closely and has been insufficiently aggressive mr. trump wants him to attack witnesses, attack with the former president sees as a hostile jury pool and attack the judge. what do you think of that i think there probably two things going on. >> i mean, i i do think there's a certain amount of stress that happens in every case and it's not unusual to see clients and their lawyers get crossed up simply because of the pressure that the client feels the lawyers used to be in the courtroom. the client oftent

we know he is out of the fold, and as maggie haberman told us overnight, that is disquieting to donald trump. his departure comes just ahead of a hearing today for two of trump's co-defendants in that a case, trump aide, walt nauta and mar-a-lago employee carlos de oliviera, both hope a judge will toss the obstruction cases against them. first, let's talk about evan corcoran, cnn's kaitlan, poland's with us this morning. corcoran out of the fold he is indeed evan corcoran in this indictment against donald trump in the florida classified documents case. he's all over it. he's called trump attorney one multiple times because he was a witness to multiple things in this indictment. crucially, all of those allegations that donald trump was trying to obstruct the job justice department and the federal government from getting back classified records in his possession. >> trump attorney one's a pretty apt title for him >> to because he was not just part of the original team. he was the lead attorney for donald trump at a really important moment in the january 6 investigation, where the justice

so now by maggie haberman, senior political correspondent, the new york times and frank lunch, a republican pollster and communication strategies. so magazine we mentioned the foreign presence campaign said the position is that should be up to the state's. does he think? >> i mean he clearly thought he could kind of leave it at that yesterday, avoid maybe taking a position on your total bans like arizona's that does not include exceptions for rape and incest anderson, i think that he and his aides thought that he was going to have more than a day of buying time with that statement yesterday, a >> statement that was not clarifying. i mean, it was it was saying that it should or will be left up to the states. he didn't address where he is on a federal ban or if he would sign a federal ban of such a thing were to pass. however steep the odds are in washington, if he were president. and so now he's going to have to address this ban. >> the argument from >> democrats and the biden campaign is by saying that it's up to all states to pick what they wanna do. trump has endorsed all hands and this,

do want to ask about the trial since you brought it up we, yo times wrote this trial morning, maggie habermanrely donald trump's a little upset. there aren't more trump's supporters outside the courouse greeting him or protesting the times row. it's mr. trump had made no secret of the fact that he wanted a the monstrations have so far l. it tell you?at bt. what does >> i'd y thisn the president should take solace. e circus is inside the courtroom, right and so it's it's cold. you see r colleagues outside fezing out there, right with heaters, it's i've been watching him so i do't think he should he should be conservative with the concern whene did rally most recently in pennsylvania a few eks upporters ning the route to the from the from the airport to the events site to three deep the hallway. i wouldn't be too conrned. there are pele not sndg outsida courm waiting to see him come o. you n't need mto see home t because gs outside? if the car ickly e coentionalism zolan, ts energizes as be energizes as bas where's that but it's new york citto jot it's not ke, you know, i mean, i think that the

the first day, maggie haberman, others noted here to not often fall asleep, and then there are people in the courtroom yesterday who said that a few times, his eyes were shut. any appear to be snapping back and forth like that. so what's the risk in that for him? and then also the judge issued a really stern warning at one point because trump was muttering something during the voir dire process basically said, i will not lead jurors be intimidated here. so talk to us about his behavior. >> first of all, his behavior in the courtroom is not going to be very helpful in terms of the jurors not keeping awake, but politically, it's devastating going out, calling his opponents sleepy joe, when he's falling asleep. and one of the most important trials ever in his life speaks volumes secondly, how the judges handling this is quite amazing. if you look at the order to show cause that he signed on the district attorney's motion to have trump held in contempt when does he have donald trump showing up for that motion? it's a week from wednesday when there's no court. so this was a day that donald

maggie haberman saw him nod off at one point, and there's a vast body of reporting that he was engagedy, and he realizes he has to sit there every day. the judge said if he fails to show up, an issue for his arrest will be -- and if he disrupts the proceedings, he could be ejected or go to jail. >> vaughn hillyard, has it ever been this real for donald trump? >> reporter: i don't think there's anything more real than a criminal trial. clearly what he's inside looking at here is the potential of attacking the judge could be be the one who determines his sentence if the jury finds him guilty on any of the they charges. at the same time i think it's important to note he did not attend the supreme court arguments back in february when the supreme court mulled over whether me should be permitted onto the colorado ballot. or the determination to stay at west palm beach on that day here. so i think it's notable. has been very defiant, but he said, quote, when talking about this, that they do not believe they should even be here today to which the judge pushed back saying you don't believe her

let's bring in the new york times, maggie haberman, the pulitzer prize winner, who was inside court. gie, i have to ask you, guys have been times have been live blogging. this event, and 40 minutes ago, you wrote an observation that i was very surprised. trump appears to be sleeping his head keeps dropping down in his mouth, goes slack tell us about that >> well, jackie appear to be asleep then he repeatedly hits his head would would fall down there. have another moments in other trials like the e jean carroll trial, which was around the corner in january, where he here very still and it seemed as if he might be sleeping, but many would move this time didn't pay attention to a node that his lawyer, todd blanche pass them his jaw kept falling in his chest and his mouth kept going slack. now sometimes people do fall asleep during court proceedings, but it's notable given the intensity of this morning and a lot of yeah, that's rather surprising. what was your biggest takeaway from what you saw today and for jake, so we have yet to hear for what the judge is going to say about whether tru

. >> sue, your colleagues, maggie haberman writes this, trump's career long ready, aim, fire and streaml media, on television, to newspaper reporters, to rally attendees, could now be held against him by prosecutors and a judge who has genuine power over him. eventually the case could threaten not only trump's freedom, but also the essential tenants of a like life long ethos ever present in a pattern, convenient disregard for the truth and stubborn insistence that his adversaries are always acting in bad faith. >> right. and you saw, and i'm thinking ahead to the hearing we're going to have on wednesday morning, or sorry on thursday morning on the gag order. just the life long disregard he has had for words and for truth and i finally think some of this may come home to roost on thursday where he is facing potential penalties and from there is could escalate. think it is going to be very interesting to see exactly how the judge yields that. i know and raw talked about possible different remedies that could come in addition to fines. maybe there is a -- his lawyer has put over his accoun

. >> and on that, claire mccaskill, maggie haberman of the "new york times" writes this, quote, many jury or mistrial and they see an outright acquittal as virtually impossible. they are bracing for him to be convicted. not because they see the legal grounds but because they think jurors in overwhelmingly democratic manhattan will be against the polarizing ex-president. but the shared sense among many of his advisers is that the process may damage him as much as a guilty verdict. the process, they believe, is its own punishment. let me just play one more piece of sound. this is trump and cohen talking about moving the money to silence the stories. >> i need to open up a company for the transfer of all of that info regarding our friend david. you know, so that -- i'm going to do that right away. i've actually -- >> give it to me. >> i've spoken to allen weisselberg about how to set set the whole thing up with -- >> so what do we got to pay for this? 150? >> yes. and -- >> yes and -- >> no, no, no, no, no. no, no, no. the only person i say no that quickly to in succession are my childr

they don't have to worry about trying to hold on to power i mean, literally maggie haberman has a contributor here, has said this before on multiple locations. donald trump sees the presidency as protection. that is why he wanted to stay in office because he had all these potential things around him that we're that were looming, cases that he wanted to avoid that very idea might have been the thing that drove trump to try to hang on to power as much as possible. so look, you can look out of the way that alito's looking at it, but i do think that we're experiencing actually quite the opposite. and if there is not anything in the law to deter people from going into office too. tech themselves, from doing criminal things. then basically the presidency becomes the very monarchy that the founders didn't want raises a fascinating question because trump's goal is always delay. >> so you have the new york hush money trial going on right now, and i never thought i'd be sitting on set listening to arguments for the united states supreme court while on the other side of the screen, we're falling the tes

you said today, for example, maggie haberman reporting that he keeps dropping his head down and his mouthsomething else today besides dozing off in a courtroom while he's under trial, and they're trying to decide what jurors will decide his fate, and i think that as compared to being able to run a normal campaign, this is certainly hurting former president trump. >> politics obviously seeps into everything, tim, and donald trump can go after the d.a., he can go after the judge, and he can go after them politically speaking as well because of just the politics involved in getting elected for a judgeship, getting elected to be d.a. does that work to his advantage? >> i mean, again, all of this is a little bit of a mixed bag. trump is always better when he's attacking, right, so, you know, this allows him to do the buddy fights thing that a lot of his base likes. i defer to the legal experts on that side of things. it's not great to attack the judge's child, and it's also not exactly like a 2016 campaign that you covered so closely, katy. obviously there was some trump narcissism elements to

thanks to maggie haberman and john swan this morning. trump does not feel his lawyers are are fighting enough being aggressive. this is one way for his lawyers to show. you see we're just going to go at them. i don't know. >> yes. in the deposition, this is from the e. jean carroll deposition. the trump is asked that's you in the video speaking. and he says, yes, correct? there's not gonna be any cross-examination. and now we have a new witness, keith davidson, who is the attorney former attorney for both stormy daniels and karen mcdougal. but the prosecution, they're interviewed, this testimony that this gentleman from the court reporting organization and all this information was all this evidence was introduced and then the defense did not cross-examine him, which is a form of stipulation, i suppose kaitlan collins yeah, from the executive director of the c-span archives to a court reporter to now keith davidson. this is quite a whirlwind for this jury inside this courtroom, jake and pollen and karen pauling care. i mean, kids david sa