maggie oliver foundation. maggie oliver. first of all, just oliver. actions maggie on this terrible news that these these poor kiddies have lost their lives birmingham , their poor lives in birmingham, their poor families. morning, families. this morning, a tragedy is . tragedy or really, really is. and kids will be kids and but you you know, you don't i think it's a reminder that you don't know what's around the corner and.the know what's around the corner and. the tragedy will stay with that family for so actually just a word maybe from you on the place and how hard it is to work on a on a case like that. yeah they've, they've had to knock on doors. you know, there's nothing worse than a child death because you don't expect . i've lost my you don't expect. i've lost my granddaughter when she was three, but we knew she was dying. when you've got the shock of somebody knocking on your front door and nothing will make it right so that , you know, it's it right so that, you know, it's heartbreaking, awful , right . heartbreaking, awful, right. andrew, le

yes, we're joined by maggie oliver. , these numbers on the face of it are shocking virtually media organisation wishes debate it. it seems . what wishes debate it. it seems. what do you make of these numbers and what's going on? good evening, nigel . i what's going on? good evening, nigel. i think the first thing i'd say is it raises perhaps more questions than it answers , more questions than it answers, because the first thing i would say is if we have got children as young as full going, being put into hotels on their own parents, why on are they being put there ? now, i am a little put there? now, i am a little suspicious whether that is the truth, you know , i've learnt truth, you know, i've learnt over the past couple of years to be very suspicious of what the media very often recalls, but four year olds should not be going into hotel unaccompanied , going into hotel unaccompanied, they should be going into foster placements , into places of placements, into places of safety . but the other thing that safety. but t

yes, we're joined by maggie oliver. , these numbers on the face of it are shocking virtually media organisation wishes debate it. it seems . what wishes debate it. it seems. what do you make of these numbers and what's going on? good evening, nigel . i what's going on? good evening, nigel. i think the first thing i'd say is it raises perhaps more questions than it answers , more questions than it answers, because the first thing i would say is if we have got children as young as full going, being put into hotels on their own parents, why on are they being put there ? now, i am a little put there? now, i am a little suspicious whether that is the truth, you know , i've learnt truth, you know, i've learnt over the past couple of years to be very suspicious of what the media very often recalls, but four year olds should not be going into hotel unaccompanied , going into hotel unaccompanied, they should be going into foster placements , into places of placements, into places of safety . but the other thing that safety. but t

and of us can empathise with the frustrations of frontline workers such as former police officer maggie oliver this show yesterday . in this show yesterday. in a reluctant defence of the workers . if not now, when but with christmas around the corner and freezing weather has already caused its fair share of tragedy, more accidents happen. the elderly will avoid going outside for a few days. then they will pop to the shops for milk and slap on the ice. cars will come off roads drunk on christmas. revellers will fall asleep on pavements. tis the season to be . but this year , season to be. but this year, with nurses and paramedics set to strike and perhaps even more cruelly rmt workers depriving , cruelly rmt workers depriving, people of the freedom to travel to see loved ones over christmas. i've come to the conclusion that the unions must postpone their action, at least until the new year. they need to take the public with them on their quests. they've got to play their quests. they've got to play the long game for proper change in their industries , seek change in their industries, seek resul