make a difference when you can see a reconciliation statue, knowing there will be a statue to maggie walker, knowing -- it makes a difference. when our capital flair takes all this history into effect, i think that is what is lacking, and i daresay that is one of the conversations communities could have. >> for my second -- ms. coleman: no, you only get one. thank you, sir. yes? >> i'm from charlottesville. when you say that communities need to have that conversation, that's very true. the problem is in charlottesville, we have a city council of five members, all of whom are democrats and none of whom are from charlottesville, and they appointed a blue-ribbon commission consisting of three specialty members and six members at large. of the members at large, none of them were from charlottesville. they had 4 african-americans on there and 2 very liberal white people. the citizens do not feel very involved in the discussion. ms. coleman: can you imagine being part of a community that you feel no one is listening to you? >> absolutely. the irony is not lost on me. ms. coleman: i am not from ch