now, this, the magna carter of 1216, which is also reissued in 1217, formed the basis for the magna carter of 1225, which king henry granted where he had acquired a great seal of his own. and those are the ones that really matter. the 1216 charter is very different than the one exacted by the balance. they might call it a typical english compromise. designed to reassure the barons the legal rights they cared about most were preserved but also to preserve the status of the monarchy. most importantly, it didn't contain the original chapter 61, which had given to 25 barons to be chosen by the rebels, extraordinary powers to enforce the provisions of the charter against the king and his officials known as the security clause. these powers were what most invoked the indignation of the pope. some required that it be dropped because they were deemed specific to the political situation in 1215. other chapters were described in the 1216 charter as important yet doubtful. isn't that a clever phrase? and so they were to be "deferred until we have full council then we will most fully in these as well

exhibition was organized by the library of congress in partnership with lincoln cathedral bringing magna carter to the usa. we are immensely grateful to dean phillip butler pour the loan of lincoln cathedral's 12:15 magna carta to the exhibition. the lincoln magna carta returns to lincoln next year, it will be reunited for a brief commemorative event with the three other copies of magna carta that survived from 1215, two of which are kept by the british library, one of which is kept by salisbury cathedral. the british library will display the four surviving manuscripts for one historic day. it will be the first time they've ever been exhibited together. the lincoln magna carta will then be moved to its permanent residence in a dedicated vault specially constructed this year as part of the lincoln castle revealed project. you may have noticed that the magna carta has come to the united states a full year ahead of the 800th anniversary. we are thrilled to be able to stage this exhibit leading up to the magna carta commemorations that are already in the works throughout the united kingdom and inde

>> guest: a greater scholar than the magna carter would have to answer than i. it is established in the bill of rights. the third amendment is the quartering act but i am not sure if it goes become to the magna carta. i think it is down in washington so maybe we should check. interesting question. >> any relationship was king george violating the magna carta that would provide justification for the revolutionary war? >> guest: i think the men cementing the rebellion and up and arms were really too concerned about the magna carta. they thought their british constitutional rights were being cut short. but i think it certainly is more about ultimately about who was going to have the power over this enormous place called america. and it wasn't even about a few poets in parliament that holds no taxes without repation. it was a great slogan but not meani meaningful. i don't think that the magna carta was really the driving force for the men of the revolution generation. >> host: some people thought they were under taxed even compared to people in england. >> guest: and

historians, at least in my country, tend not to be so excited about the magna carter of the 15th of june of 1215. they point out that it was not so different from the charters of other kings. that much of its contents were simply reaffirming generally understood principles of futile law. and above all, that its most radical provisions were soon dropped. but while the story of how the baron succeeded in extorting the charter from the king is quite exciting. the story i have next is i think even more exciting. only a few days after the charter was sealed on the 15th of june, king john asked the pope iii to release him from his oath to observe it. and on the 24th of august, the pope obliged. king john had sworn to the pope and the pope owed him something in return. he denounced the charter as extorted by, quote, such violence and fear as might affect the most courageous of men. he forbad king john to keep his oath to observe it, and the barons that tried to make him do so. and declared the charter null and void for all validity forever. so you might have thought that was that. the result wa

and according to cook and hail and hawkins it was against magna carter to give them information to collect data broadly and find illegal activity. there were good reasons. to protect anyone who is out to harm them or anyone they wanted to target they could target. but there were rights that were value valued. solitude, intimiimate relationships and values to the right. >>> >> go ahead. >> i just wanted to respond to one thing bob said about data collection. he made the point i adpree -- agree with. this is not a new problem. this existed before the rise of new kind of data and the growth of the global internet. but two things have changed. the scope of information that is being collected has changed and the quantity of information has been changed. that, i think, requires us to reconsider some of the intervals. i just want to read a quote from the 1978 house report when the first passed. there was a debate at the time about a decision made in the 1978 legislation to require warrants for all collection that was covered at the time which is less than what is covered now and a number of membe

magna carta guarantees the right to trial by journey. judge lamberth: from the beginning of our country we did believe in trial by jury. jenny: absolutely. we thought this was a guaranteed right as of technique cartert is not in there. 40 of the magna carta says no one will be denied or delayed justice. this is the idea that you have to get your judgment in a reasonably speedy fashion. it is an outgrowth of the sort of things that john would do which is to imprison people, sometimes for years, without judgment. he would do this to extort more and more money out of the person concerned. one of the interesting things you can do in reading the magna carta is to see what king john was actually doing versus what he was told not to do. judge lamberth: talk a little more about habeas corpus. in this country, it is turned -- it has turned out to be extremely important. in other countries, it is a key to decide he thinks and the judiciary. robert: yes. we can go through u.s. history and find conflicts where habeas corpus favored prominently during the years preceding the civil war. habeas corpus was used to return slaves to captors and sometimes for slaves to be freed and sometimes for slave catchers to be