c-span: jeb magruder on the right. dwight chapin next to him. lyn nofziger there on the couch. herb klein at the back. >> guest: this is the "plans committee," the image-maker that i had just spoken about. and it's interesting that ron zieglar is not in the picture. he would come briefly and then leave. and herb klein alluded to this in his book, that--but these were the men that had to deal with negative reporting and then create the positive stories when they could. c-span: jeb magruder and dwight chapin went to jail. what was your reaction when that happened? >> guest: i felt kind of sorry for them. i--i liked them both. they--they were--i got to know them personally because we were involved with each other for such a long period of time. and jeb's wife and my wife were classmates in college. and so i felt very sorry when--when all the things went negatively for them. c-span: john connally. >> guest: i liked john connally. i thought he had a great presidential demeanor about him, and i think president nixon did too. c-span: where did you photograph these two together? >> gue