maha ibrahim, my guest host for the hour.g up, googles switch to an app ecosystem. ♪ emily: tonight on bloomberg, do not miss our exclusive conversation with the bank of england governor. that is live and streaming on bloomberg.com. before he started his own company, nest, he worked directly with steve jobs to create some of apple's most iconic products. in this week's in-depth interview on "studio 1.0," i asked about some of those earlier jobs. tony: there were times it was friendly. i would not say we were friends in terms of hanging out, it was tough at times. but it was a great mentor relationship at times. there were other times he called me on my craft were i called him -- on my crap or i called him on it. he didn't like that. it was all about what was the best experience for the customer, which is what i love. i would never trade that experience for anything. emily: i read it was like father and son. tony: there were a lot of love-hate moments. oh, we're going to take over the world. you need creative tension to really