mahar salom. academic and commentator joining us live from beirout. we also have with us fra, journalist, author and activists joining us from belfast. thank you. to both of you, gentlemen, uh, let's begin with our guest from uh beirot, mr. salom, uh, yes, well uh, unfortunately, we are witnessing more and more killing, artillery shells, killing innocent civilians, most of them women and children in gaza, in places that are supposed to be safe, what do you think is the real aim of targeting these? yes, well the real aim is or the main objective of the israeli strategy, the government of bb netanyahu and the fanatics, let me say the ministers, ben grafir and simotric. the main aim or the whole objective is to push out as much as possible, the population in gaza, whether in gaza or raffa or the major. population inside those condensed territories, because there's a plan by israel, they want to move out the palestinian people from such area, which is it seems a very important area to the israelis after the october 7th, i'm sorry, thefan, you know, the wh