but mahatma gandhi said it very well. he said first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. host: we're talking with amy goodman. she's here with us for about the next 35 minutes, and we're going to talk more about her book, "the silenced majority: stories of uprisings, occupations, resistance, and hope." we'll also share a couple of stories regarding her adventures as the host of "democracy now." if you want to get involved in the conversation, give us a call. the numbers, 202-585-3880 for democrats. 202-585-3881 for republicans. independents, 202-585-3882. you can also get in touch with us via social media, twitter, @cspanwj. facebook facebook -- cspan. you can also email journal ath -- journal @c-span.org. george, your question or comment for amy goodman, go ahead. caller: yeah, the republicans talk about the democrats being in control for the first two years. but the democrats were actually in control for two years, i mean, for four months during the first two years, because they lo