in contrast to previously agreed-upon rules, mahle now wants both mike's -- mics to be hard to hold themson is obvious, kamala, she wants manufacturing what i will call another i am speaking moment. very similar to the vice presidential debate in 2020. you might recall "i'm speaking, i'm speaking, did you know i'm speaking, i'm speaking to go take a look. she's speaking. >> she says because the president wanted people to remain calm that will last -- >> this is important and i want -- mr vice president, i'm speaking. and speaking. is this was to be a debate based on fact and truth and the truth and the fact is joe biden has been very clear that he will not raise taxes on anybody who makes less than $400,000 -- >> -- >> mr vice president, i'm speaking. >> the important is to say the true spirit i'm so glad we went through a little history lesson. let's do that a little more. in 1860 -- spirit i would like you to answer the question. >> mr vice president, i'm speaking. i'm speaking. okay? >> sean: he goes on and on. ritually tomorrow herbert debate phrase, you know, "i'm speaking, of the s