i what to go back to professor mahmood mamdani.ut first, play more of the court decision as read out by the chief judge of the international court of justice joan donoghue. >> during the ongoing conflict, senior united nations officials have repeatedly called attention to the risk of further deterioration of conditions in the gaza strip. the court takes note of the letter dated six december 20 23 whereby the secretary-general of the united nations brought the following information to the attention of the security council, "the health care system in gaza is collapsing. nowhere is safe in gaza. amid constant bombardment by the is will defense forces and without shelter or the essentials to survive, i expect public order to completely break down soon due to the desperate conditions rendering even limited humanitarian assistance possible. and even worse situation could unfold including epidemic diseases and increased pressure for mass displacement to neighboring countries." we are facing a severe risk of collapse of the humanitarian sy

amy: mahmood mamdani, you have written about the situation in gaza. you have spoken about it.re are now over 25,000 palestinians who have been killed, over 11,000 of them are children. the issue of hunger in gaza is a very sick -- serious issue raised by the u.n. and medical groups. you have that situation and the solidarity express with the people in palestine on college campuses. can you talk about what is happening at columbia, both staff, professors, students' feelings about whether they can express their views without being doxxed or attacked? >> thank you, amy. the situation at columbia has been developing. it is monitored by an administration which seemed to have very little idea about what to do. at the same time, assumptions. the assumption was if the main problem at columbia is anti-semitism and the administration should do everything to keep it in check and then to be eradicated. when incidents like this, the chemical spraying, emerged, the administration's first response was kind of disbelief. overall, it has been a very clumsy handling. different parts of the admi