really want one of these devices, yeah may be a time to get one but these big legal battles are -- they take time to sort out. this ruling is just the first of many lings that's going to come down and one of many lawsuits that are going to happen between these large organizations, these large technology companies. >> the other thing that apple plans to ask the judge to triple the damages to more than $3 billion. do you think even though those numbers sound huge to us, $3 billion is just a slap on the wrist. a lot of the talk is about how samsung's strategy was to copy the iphone as closely as possible or mimic it as closely as possible because obviously apple had hit into a very good market and it paid off for samsung. they are the number 2 smartphone manufacturer in the world, made billions and they have made a reputation for themselves and making billions. in the grander scheme of things, this judgment is really not that big. but strategically it's important. >> it sounds like maybe this was a battle in a war that could be coming possibly against google and android the a huge competitor. >> that's right. so the thing to remember is that eric schmidt,