he maicon tra dikt -- >> okay, you're describing what i think somebody might say is flip-flopping. but he's saying the weakest mentally. what is he trying to get at there, and this this a teem youe going to be pressing? >> what he's getting at is he's questioning his own commitment to his own principles in terms of where he's stood for decades of public service and now accomplishing much. so, it's weak mentally to be -- to your own principles. and that is something that we'll definitely be highleichting. in fact, as we know, joe biden likes to talk about his commitment to blue collar yet his support for nafta and vote for it, his support for tpp, was something that union labor absolutely opposed. again, joe biden saying one thing and actually representing something else. >> all right, marc lotter from the trump campaign, thank you for that. and we want to note that we did invite the biden campaign to come on, no campaign official or surrogate was made available for tonight's show. >>> ahead, it is not just trump versus biden. we've got new numbers on biden versus the rest of the de