this comes after the final e- mail ms. lopez wrote to ivory madison. st about to establish the time. there we go. you have spoken to her at 5:27 for 4 minutes. she e-mails that last e-mail, i am so sorry you misunderstood everything, and that is the last e-mail in the record of exhibit 834 communications -- exit 80f 3or -- exhibit 83 for communications, and shortly after you called for 5 minutes. you have any recollection of that? >> no, i do not. >> you remember ms. lopez Â&zúg ms. mattison, that she understood everything? >> no. >> sorry. power point would have been so much better, so from 5 car 48 you talked for five minutes. -- 5:48 you talk for five minutes. that brings us to 5:43. this was supposed to be 5:43 untilñ"-" there were several attempts by you to call share of mirkarimi -- sheriff mirkarimi, and you texted, call me. you know what you wanted him to call at that point? >> i do not recall. most likely i was checking in to see if they were ok. >> to the best of your recollection you were trying to provide support? thwacks and to make sure t

mailed? >> no, i did not. >> at 6:41, you call miss lopez again, and the call lasts five minutes, so maybe until 6:46, and half an hour later, mse-mailed miss williams, and she said, all i told you today was confidential. it was too dramatic. with anything about that 7:13 p.m. e-mail the subject of the phone call? >> it was not. >> the remember what that phone call was about? >> no, i do not. >> at 7:23, and you call ms. lopez, but i am assuming that is a missed connection or maybe a message. >> a drop call maybe. >> she calls you back, and a call last for 11 minutes. do you know what that call is about thomas -- what that call is about? >> i do not. >> that call ends at 7:39 and at 7:47 miss lopez e-mails kellie williams and says, do not talk to the police if they ask you. as bad jog your recollection of any portion of the phone call at 7:28? >> no. >> did she ever tell you she was going to send an e-mail like that to ms. williams? >> no. >> the view held draft that the amount? >> no. -- did you help draft that e- maile? >> no. >> commissioner, is it a recording devices? >> is it also of recording devices? you told me it was e