they decide we are going to weigh in to send a mailer out. so, they can send a mailer out they have to disclose that they sent it out that they spent money on it and there's a $50,000 threshold at that point. after they meet $50,000, they have to go to some accounting to kind of figure out how they're going to attribute it to all these various funders they've had over the course of the last four years. but, -- so i can say not right. >> yes. but you know, the example which jonathan referred to, the -- change was a very unique example which in the 14 year seven practicing political law was the first time someone really try to run the money through three different nonprofits and other large sum of money in to a campaign and you sell it happen. it basically cratered the opposition campaign. it was exposed within a matter of two weeks and a logout change to make sure never got happened again. i hope that was helpful. >> was that incident? >> it was with the gov. brown's proposition 30 campaign. i don't know the nonprofit. it was basically some no

. >> thank you, commissioners this proposal this idea concerns slate motivators those mailers you get every election season which support or opposite 4 or more candidates and are affiliated with participant where the candidates or measures are paying to appear on those mailers and sometimes not theirs subject to their own disclaimer rules impose by the state and technically state organizations and as such file their campaign statements discoloring money in and out with the secretary of state and file copies of their reports with the department of elections so this is just sort of a technical change that requires the slate of our mailers instead of filing them with the other agency to file them with the ethics commission so this is a one-stop shopping we can see the candidate activity and the slate marital activity. >> you want to make a motion. >> i make a motion we approve that to make it possible. >> second. >> public comment? >> larry bush from friends of ethics just a point of information while it doesn't go to the election department the clerk is responsible for accepting documen

it should be noted that during the application process a notification of and mailer was done on on april 8th on april 8th, 2013, , and posted march 28th of 2013. in regards to statistics police called for service and only had one police call for this location with zero police reports issued out of this location and the san francisco plot number 543 unfortunately does sit in a high crime area and had a reported 325 police reports for 2013. this information is that it sits on tract 0159.00 with a population of 4, 350 people and the the premises and with letters of support there was zero filed with the abc and the department's recommendation to the matter is there is no opposition and the alu recommends approval with the following five conditions. condition number 1 1 electronic surveillance and recording equipment shall be utilized during operator hours and shall be made available to the department and police department upon request. . >> condition number 2. sales of alcoholic beverages shall be permitted sunday through wednesday and from 12 noon until 2:00 2:00 a.m. thursday through satur

the mailer that went out, that's $100,005 $10,000, and 5 thousand numbers. speaker: at one point or other, may because -- over the course of a year or a year and a half, reach up to that hundred dollar disclosure threshold. and so with the exception of political parties and their members, there's no jurisdiction at the federal and state level that requires this disclosure of membership donations from member communications. probably given sort of the -- i would imagine the right of association. and our experience, it's mostly labor unions so most of the time, you're going to know, maybe not the individual who reached that $100 threshold, but you're going to know sort of the people who are the players who are sending out the mail. so i hope that makes sense. speaker: yes, it does. thank you. speaker: thank you. should we open it up to public comment? let's do that. i don't think that mr. manarti miss characterized anything. we do have a different point of view. let me make sure i'm reciting the first item. the first one we talked about was the non profit of fu

submissions so therefore they don't have a system that allows you to go down and find out the slate mailers involving the san francisco candidates by moving it to ethics you have that access it's a observe that disclosure. >> any other public comment? all right. all in favor >> i. >> opposed passed unanimously 4, 0 now we've gone through the items item one 2, and 4 directed the staff 67 as well but 67 is a more straightforward but directed the staff to take some further action and i would ask, sir how would you prioritize those recognizing there's a fairly heavy burden where should he start and just give me a week i know that the fcc has their regulatory calendar it makes sense that seemed the commission very much want us to move on item one we can draft the proposed language and begin our i p month to month and gathering records we could come back to you with that language in march and in march present a proposed calendar in terms of how we will go about doing this i'll recommend we exclude not only this stuff but there are one or two other things that we permit consulting stuff it is clea

. >> thank you, commissioners this proposal this idea concerns slate motivators those mailers you get every election season which support or opposite 4 or more candidates and are affiliated with participant where the candidates or measures are paying to appear on those mailers and sometimes not theirs subject to their own disclaimer rules impose by the state and technically state organizations and as such file their campaign statements discoloring money in and out with the secretary of state and file copies of their reports with the department of elections so this is just sort of a

mailer and vidal, norman came on pissed to the gills in his pugilist walk. knew we would have trouble as he walked out to gut gore on the air. he had written about him. they showed the key moment. it distresses me a little because the show builds like a play. but my remembered, always misquoted insult to norman when he said he was more -- implied he was more intelligent than the other people here, and i said, maybe like an extra chair to contain your giant intellect. >> perhaps you would like two more chairs to contain your giant intellect. >> this got a huge laugh, of course, at his expense. norman has trouble with humor. i liked him and then he said in my head, i think i have never confessed this before. i think he took me to be david frost by saying, cavett, why don't you just read the next question off of the question sheet? and i heard myself say the immortal: why don't you fold it five ways and put it where the moon don't shine? it's often misquoted. stick it where the sun -- every word wrong. and you will agree that stick it would have been vulgar. >>

it should be noted that during the application process a notification of and mailer was done on on april 8th on april 8th, 2013, , and posted march 28th of 2013.

three key ways, and we put this basically on page 12 of the memo that says "if you are sending out mailers or you are posting up, you know, ads on a website or whatever radio ad, et cetera, the general guidance is look to what state law says and comply with that" which they have to do but do three things to augment disclosure and that's with respect to smaller printing -- they should use 12 point font and right now it's 10 point font under state law. and there's an example of state -- have a threshold for disclosing top donors. it's a $50,000 threshold. it would allow for more disclosure earlier on in the process. once they got to $50,000, it's the same as the state disclosure rules. and finally in an attempt to leverage the really good, well, in our opinion, really good stuff we have on our website, include a reference to the ethics commission website telling someone, if you want to find out more about this, go to the ethic's commission website. this applies to ballot measures and candidate candidates so it's broader. there's a rule that candidates who under state law are generally not su

he sends out mailers, asking you to send in your pee. art robinson once came on this show and we had a terrible fight about his writings that hiv doesn't cause aids, and that it would be great to sprinkle backyards all across america with a little radio activity, that would be good for everybody. and i tried to figure out what he needed all of the pee for. he is now the state chairman of the republican party in oregon. and he is a frequent republican nominee for congress in the state of oregon. their last nominee for senate, at first glance, looked like a refreshing change from the art robinson craziness. she was well spoken, very conservative doctor who basically chose to run for senate on a 100% anti-obama careful person platform. it made some sense in oregon particularly because of this. oregon completely botched their state obama care exchange rollout. that would have been bad enough had they not run the most embarrassing ever tv ad for that health exchange that did not work. so in running an anti-obamacare campaign, their senate can

you could get people like norman mailer and woody allen. >> my only new year's resolution this year,'m going to try to sleep through the nixon administration. >> you would have authors on. you would have heavyweight boxers. there were conversations. >> when you mentioned the national anthem and talk about playing it in any unorthodox way, you immediately get a guaranteed percentage of hate mail from people who say how dare -- >> that's not unorthodox. that's not unorthodox. >> it isn't unorthodox? >> no, no, i thought it was beautiful. there you go. >> i just thought anything that is interesting ought to have a place on a talk show rather than young pretty actresses who use the word "excited" in every sentence. you're not frequently seen on television. is that by choice? >> well, of course, it is the most impressive medium of all. it's the medium that will either save america or send it down into demise, there's no question about it. >> i'm getting out of it myself. >> really? >> we'll be back after this. >> what you do is book the best possible guests from different kinds of busines

he is been able to get away with it because he's been able to buy $30 million worth of mailers and tvmmercials and d.c.-stop political consultants. >> tomorrow, explain what happens. it is an unusual election, a lot of cities don't have a system like this, a nine -- nonpartisan election. >> right. we have a nonpartisan election. if you get to 50%, it is over. it is rahm emanuel against everyone else. if he gets 50%, he has another term. if he gets 49.9%, there will be a runoff with a second-place sinister who is likely to be ch uy garcia. between february and april, we will have a real conversation about the future of the city. that is why voters absolutely have to get themselves to the polls. it is 4 degrees today, it might be 2 degrees tomorrow, but this is a life-and-death situation for the citizens of chicago. >> we want to thank you, rick perlstein, for being with us, chicago-based reporter whose recent piece is headlined, "how to sell off a city: welcome to rahm emanuel's chicago, the privatized metropolis of the future." we will be back in a minute. ♪ [music break] >> nina simo

in this case he's accused of sending out phoney campaign mailers in the 2010 san jose city council race. his lawyers are in court today for a procedural hearing. he has already served jail time for misusing public and campaign funds. >> police made an arrest in connection with a hit-and-run crash that killed a food vendor in san jose. police say it all started when the driver slammed head on into a car near mount pleasant high school on saturday. the driver didn't stop. he kept going, ran over a couple and their food cart. the man who was hit died shortly after the crash. the woman is still in the hospital. not clear how she is. police identified the driver. he faces several charges, including vehicle already manslaughter. >>> a labor flare-up at the port of oakland stopped shipping for a good portion of sunday. this despite that labor agreement reached a couple days earlier. >> nbc bay area's stephanie chuang has details. >> reporter: trucks have been going in and coming out of the security gates this morning. but we're told by the port officials that crane operators, who of course han

>> they would reveal your voteing preference in a mailer alongside your neighbors' voting record. >>to abby to get her back in line? >> the threat is more valuable than shame itself. i would have a conversation behind the scenes before you went public. >> i want to publicly shame her. >> what you talk about is examples where there is behavior where some people think is bad but we don't criminalize. there's this example of people who use too much water in droughts. it becomes a social problem. we would never pass a law in this country sending someone to jail just for watering their lawn. is this a middle ground? >> we think about immunization being a hot topic. mississippi has 100% compliance because they have a law. other states are considering shaming more because they have so many open possibilities of people getting out of it. it serves as an interim between those things. >> are there instances where shaming doesn't work? we talked about corporations. >> when toure tries it, it doesn't work. >> wait. >> the large oil companies may be not so susceptible to changing. >> reputation i

he is accused of sending out phoby campaign mailers in 2010. san jose city council race. his lawyers are in court today for a procedural hearing. shirakawa already served time in jail for misusing public and campaign funds. rvelts investigators trying to figure out what caused a destructive fire in sfrab's castro district near the corner of 15th and church streets saturday afternoon. it took firefighters with an hour just to get those flames under control. the fire caused about $1.5 million in damage. 12 people are looking for a new place to stay this morning. the only injury thankfully was to a cat which suffered smoke inhalation but is expected to be okay. >> 5:06. i want to check the forecast a little breezy out there this morning. christina has a look at the microclimate forecast. >> we have gusty wind in parts of the bay area, other areas not seeing gusts whatsoever. we're watching zero in san martin. sustained speed up to 20 miles per hour in mountain view 15, stephanie out in the port of oakland that wind is whipping this morning. travel with caution. i want to sho

if you got any of those mailers i know i have in the past, i know you've only owned your car for a yearse are all pushes to improve -- jeff jeff $17,000 for a new -- gerri: $17,000 for a new car. you say even older cars have seen prices rise even faster. tell me about that. >> yeah. we're seeing a lot of demand because of low gas prices for larger vehicles, trucks and suvs people that may not have bought them in the past. i think that's driving up some of the old vehicle prices and also people that, you know, maybe got turned down for an older vehicle or a loan in the past, they're back in the market because they're finding out they can get financed now. gerri: one of the popular programs is certified preowned. is this part of what's going on? >> yeah certified preowned is huge. it's about 25% of the used retail market, and a lot of people are choosing that because you're basically getting a car that doesn't have very many miles on it, you still get a warrantee, and you're not necessarily taking that first hit of depreciation. and for a lot of people that's pretty big. gerri: so can we

and, actually with i thought good writers liked boxing hemingway, mailer. guess who was the best?be joyce carol oates. a fantastic book on boxing. and she does the great dempsey in that as well. and, of course, he's ricker's meal ticket. he's a hard hitter from the western mountain country, he turns boxing into a million dollar industry. $5 million gates at new york city and promoted -- the next million dollar gate is ali/frazier. babe ruth from the baltimore dock yards, he turns baseball from small ball bunt and hit and run things like that, into long ball. and like dempsey, he's a slugger. kind of strange, there's lou gehrig, born in new york, columbia lou there's gene tunney who beat t the great dempsey, a native new yorker from greenwich village, it was always the big hitters, the outsiders, the ruths and the dempseys who captured the crowds. others came in with a lot of money. joejoe paterson from chicago, he's a breakaway. a one-time socialist, the rebel in the family. he comes to new york city in 1919, and he found the daily news on a shoe string. six years later it's the b

. >> yeah we're both kind of late night e-mailers and texters, we're kind of exchanging a lot of thoughtsalty program exchanges. so we don't know exactly what we're going to do but we've got a thousand ideas. >> what about the comp plans in your program, you have full-time employees? >> yes. >> and you've got bonus plans, compared to the aisles that are all over macy's? with those individual comp plans does that cause a problem with employees? >> i don't think so. this guy is asking hard questions. >> well, he knows. >> their plan is they want a really good business. we're going to run that business the way they run that business. marla and barry and her team are staying in place. and they're going to keep running it. i don't know this. this is not my expertise. they do. they're staying with to us run this business. so we're going to keep the lines separated for as long as it makes sense. >> can we ask a question is there a role for you are you going to be there for the duration? >> i've been with bluemercury for 16 years. i'm not going anywhere. >> i wouldn't want to go in and ask what y

they send out mailers and find other ways of getting in touch with you.ro: miss andriotis, to state laws work to prohibit that or reduce that? other federal laws that work in that space? annamaria: i am not aware of laws that can prevent lenders from sending people pitches for credit cards or other types of loans in the mail or in other ways. there are state laws which say that lenders cannot charge beyond a certain interest rate on certain types of loans. what we are seeing is that these new types of subprime lenders are working within these laws. they are basically offering subprime loans with these high, triple digit interest rates in states where they are able to do so. many states allow for that. for example, texas and california, you can charge triple digit easily on these types of personal loans. pedro: amy is from texas. she is up next. caller: what you were just talking about with the banks lenders sending you unwanted information. i happened to stumble across the ftc website. i was amazed at the things you can stop. places like aqua facts -- eqi

and, actually with i thought good writers liked boxing hemingway, mailer. guess who was the best?be joyce carol oates. a fantastic book on boxing. and she does the great dempsey in that as well. and, of course, he's ricker's meal ticket. he's a hard hitter from the western mountain country, he turns boxing into a million dollar industry. $5 million gates at new york city and promoted -- the next million dollar gate is ali/frazier. babe ruth from the baltimore dock yards, he turns baseball from small ball bunt and hit and run things like that, into long ball. and like dempsey, he's a slugger. kind of strange, there's lou gehrig, born in new york, columbia lou there's gene tunney who beat t the great dempsey, a native new yorker from greenwich village, it was always the big hitters, the outsiders, the ruths and the dempseys who captured the crowds. others came in with a lot of money. joejoe paterson from chicago, he's a breakaway. a one-time socialist, the rebel in the family. he comes to new york city in 1919, and he found the daily news on a shoe string. six years later it's the b