makan: thank you for having me.you have a foundational technology that can disrupt incumbent players, there is a big debate. and the legislative process is a very slow process because you need a lot of education. you need to educate policy members, the policymakers, members of congress and others, about exactly what it does, and what should they be afraid of to get in there. of course i think the less regulation you have, especially in the infancy of a new technology, the greater the innovation that is going to be surrounding that. of course that is one regular -- regulation should come in, but not to come in at the early stages of developing a new foundational technology like blockchain. and so you have seen a lot of changes in the marketplace of course that is largely related to cryptocurrencies rather than the broader space of blockchain that has many applications. emily: president biden's crypto executive order, what is your view on that from an antitrust perspective? makan: one of the very positive things about