dr makary it worked for britain's national health service for 26 years despite that he was subsequently sacked after a conversation with his boss during which he refused to hypothetically to refer to a 6 foot tall bearded man as madam and while the doctor insists his employer's discriminated against his religious beliefs and improvement tribunals ruled that his objection was incompatible with human dignity. and lack of belief in transgenderism and conscientious objection to transgenderism in our judgment are incompatible with human dignity and conflict with the fundamental rights of others in so far as those police form part of his wider faith his want of faith also does not satisfy the requirements of being worthy of respect in a democratic society dr makary says the ruling against him sets a dangerous precedent. i was at the shop floor and i was i say to the judges do i. believe my manager or people with a recall of the shop floor of the national health service known very good about their beliefs this is really really the precedence of the case and that's that's why we're really quite

makary now, and talk a little bit about his book. i have to say as a doctor, i found it really troubling in reading your first chapter, i had chest pain reading about some of the perverse incentives and some of the unwarranted variation that you see in care. can you tell everyone about that? because i was surprised by some of the things that you characterized, and i think that's kauai-opening for folks -- eye-opening for folks. >> well, thank you, dr. pratt, and it's great to be here and great to learn from katherine here too, and i hope those medications are not the ones i'm prescribing. [laughter] >> well, you might be. probably. >> great. what a system. [laughter] and it's great to be here in texas. i love austining, so thanks for having me. you know, i think the stories that we need to talk about that no one talking about are the areas in health care where there's broad consensus among the american people. so if we can turn off cable news for a little bit and stop listening to the echo chambers that we're a dividedded cup on heal

you respond if a 6 foot tall man came into your office and asked to be called mrs or she well dr makary refused and said he would simply not be able to conform to those requests and he was subsequently sacked from his position now the department for work and pensions argues that dr david mark critz fears are in direct breach of the equality act of 2010 on top of all of that the firm that hired the man is also being sued for religious beliefs but the fact remains that the tribunals did rule of course that his beliefs could cause offense and in fact many people in the trans community and trans activists say that all of this has psychological ram of ramifications is tantamount to abuse not to mention of course that medical health care professionals should be treating people and not judging people in their opinion well anyway dr david graham is now saying he will appeal the decision. well earlier i spoke to the doctor in question david mack you outlined the press that he says this ruling now set i was taken off the shop floor and i was i so interrogated all the judges that i had heard. abou

faith also does not satisfy the requirements of being worthy of respect in a democratic society dr makary the ruling against him sets a dangerous precedent. i was taken off the shop floor and i was i say that all the judges did i. believe by my manager are people who pull of the shop floor of the national health service known and very good about their beliefs this is really really the precedence of the case and that's that's why we're really quite shocked at the porpoises very quickly the 1st one is that you're not allowed not to leave the transgender movements maxim's the 2nd one is. the crest and believe me it's male and female and the 6 pronouns of this is not allowable or is the core christian believes all christianity is not compatible with . human dignity these are very big questions each one of those huge huge blow. well we asked a human rights campaigner peter tatchell and christian legal activist andrea williams for their views on a story. conflicted fundamentally with his faith and also with his belief as a doctor and how best to treat such a patient is a religion which actually

you respond if a 6 foot tall man came into your office and asked to be called mrs or she well dr makary refused and said he would simply not be able to conform to those requests and he was subsequently sacked from his position now he was completely shocked as to how the story unfolded because he himself believes a person's chosen sex is simply an abstract ideological pledge staff in the n.h.s. even those who don't share my christian convictions or also disturbed as they see their own freedom of thought and speech being undermined by the judge's ruling my 30 years as a doctor are now considered irrelevant compared to the risk that someone else might be offended now the department for work and pensions argues that dr david mark critz fears are in direct breach of the equality act of 2810 on top of all of that the firm that hired them and. is also being sued for religious beliefs in fact many people online have taken to twitter and arguing that this is political correctness gone mad and especially given the lack of doctors up and down the country at the moment this is certainly a step too