. >> commissioner makras: -- commissioner makras. >> commissioner makras: you said it is scheduled for march or april of 2019. your previous answer suggested you are not bringing up all of the piers. what do you envision? do you envision two piers at a time over a year, five years? give me an idea how you see the request going on the street? >> for myself we haven't brought this yet. i think we were thinking of a palette. we want one, two, three that we can handle from a capacity standpoint. if there is interest in more we are talking about expanding staff capacity. that is sort of like how the port with manage more. how would the advisory group and members of the public react to more piers? i don't have a distinct answer for you now. we are considering a small number and large number and phased in overtime. >> you shared the light industrial use. walk me through an example how that would work. >> how we would contract for that? >> what do you see as light industrial, does pdr apply? >> this is not an analysis where we came up with the intermediate lease. it says 30 year lease. potenti

commissioner makras. >> commissioner makras: i support the motion on the table. i wanted to see the economics of the low emission locomotive. we purchased that, right, the city purchased it? >> correct it was $1.8 million. the air quality management will reimburse us $1.3 million from the grant. >> what is the useful life of the locomotive? >> over 20 years. >> great. thank you. >> commissioner gilman. >> commissioner gilman: thank you for the presentation. ily supporting this -- i will be supporting this motion. >> public comment is closed. sorry. >> it is okay. i will speak for you. >> i asked if anyone wanted to speak. >> the railroad is like tennis. there is a lot of support. >> commissioner adams. >> vice president adams: it will be fine. i just wanted to say that our commitment, this commission was the same as david. commitment to the workers and to the community. it was finding the right business terms. we went back and forth. the commitment was there. clearly, david is one of those like the giants and others here for a long time. we know what that commitm

. >> i will say in response to commissioner makras' statements, we are looking at this carefully from our own city attorney. we do not believe that we have a violation, but that doesn't mean that a second set of eyes -- another person at the county attorney's office is pouring over this. >> commissioner adams? >> phil, eddie, thank you for the presentation. and to the community, thank you for coming out. this is the place we need to talk out about these issues, and i'm glad to hear for and against your true feelings. as i said eddie, you're doing a great job. but to the public, please keep coming out, hammering. we want to know what you have to say. we want you to know that we're listening, and we want you to know that we hope there's some way this can be resolved. >> okay. again, commissioners, any other comments? is everybody -- thank you, phil. >> thank you. >> clerk: okay. item 13-a, informational presentation on the port's five-year financial plan for fiscal years 2019-2020 through 2023 and 2024. >> good evening, commissioners, director forbes. i'm megan wallace, finance director

. >> commissioner makras. >> just a couple things on the pension stuff that may be helpful. if the pension is 19, i'd just like to call out the employment benefit in the program is a much larger number, so that's how you should look at pension and benefits. it's wages plus the package, and the package is really set by the city, and i don't believe age has anything to do with it. you don't pay more into the pension fund because of your age. it's all blended out, and it's averaged out by your pay. and my estimate is it's going to stay at the 40% or the thereabouts for a long time. that's just my observation, but there's no real actual number out there, the 40% number. >> yeah -- no, i understand. >> so i have two questions. on your base case assumptions, on your key assumptions, i'm going to call out two things. item f is your rsi sites, walk me through where you think we're going to bring that much money on the table for something that hasn't been brought to us yet in such a short period of time. >> so the key sites that i looked at and categorized as r.f.i. included pier 23,