the courage of this inclusion, we will continue to cover the situation with efforts to release maksym butkevichy yevgenia butkevich mother - journalists and human rights defender was in touch with us e-e a little bit we have technical problems with communication but the topic we let's continue and right now we will connect to the conversation the editor-in-chief of maksym butkevich's public radio colleague tetyana troshchynska in a moment ms. tetyana will be on the phone with us andriy please tell me about maksym butkevich, i didn't know him honestly i'll tell you, that's why i'm extremely interested in listening to you and it's extremely paradoxical. of course, all the accusations against him are broken down simply by the personality of this person who actually dedicated his whole life to fighting all uh -uh harmful isms. activities as a human rights defender, he is a journalist, we still crossed paths with him, it seems like k1, we have a lot of mutual acquaintances, er, we could have a little argument with him sometimes, but i'm just his i know how, as usual, an intelligent person and he him

maksym's mother, yevgenia butkevich, says that the last time her son got in touch was a few days beforearance of the video, according to her, he had been on training for several months. after that, he and the other boys were sent to the border of the luhansk and donetsk regions . there is a lot of material about people who are fighting there, people who have returned from there, we understood that this is the hot spot now with us, and on the map of our military operations, we were shocked that it turns out that they were simply, well, it seems that they dropped their studies just at the very edge of the defense, we realized that there was no one in front of them except the russians, according to his mother, maxim decided to join the defense of ukraine on the very first day of the full-scale russian invasion. he came to the military committee and said that he wanted to participate in the defense. he thought that it was possible it will be uh- terrobotan, but when it turned out that he had a military chair, if he is a reserve lieutenant, they told him that no, only for this one, well, on

president, how appropriate it is in fact, the figure of maksym butkevich, i am sure that you will getease , steps are being taken now to release our colleague, well, this is just nonsense maxim and propaganda he always defended only his own opinion and he never was at all. well, in terms of his views, he is more left-wing than right-wing, he was never a nazi of some kind to ukrainian propagandists. he always defended liberal views. actually, he did not depend on anyone or anyone at all for his views. what the orcs are doing is the usual propaganda, using it as a tool for their propaganda, what is it? look at the ukrainian propagandist, the nazis, and so on. well, maksym dutkevych, this is something quite the opposite. of nationalism, why exactly he was chosen for this ? so, will it be possible to release butkevich and do you know what steps are being taken to release him and who, how, and in what way is now initiating their own connection of efforts, including international human rights organizations, what do you know, mr. borysovych, the situation here is as follows. agreed to remain

troshchyna she the editor of the public radio joined us and the co-founder of which is actually maksym butkevich to say that the public radio is the second public radio i had the same honor to work on both teams for us er this public radio was the first founder there were more there were such and such a show serhiy and such a legendary radio continent is probably also worth reminding briefly and sashko oleksandr kryvenko found a legendary journalist, we don’t know anything about what actually works, how, how miraculously it works to our intelligence, to our exchange center, to release these people, to release the tyra, for example, or those defenders of mariupol who managed to get out of the clutches of the enemy from the torture chambers of the occupiers, but we believe that all ukrainian patriots and opinion leaders will be freed, that these efforts will have an effect and we will find the key to freeing and maksym butkevich, we will cover this situation in the future right now, the chronicles of the information war with olga leni, after that we will return and after the news, we will communic