are talking with an expert of the center for strategic communications and information security maksym majorov joins us a p maksym, i congratulate you a- a let's talk about refuting fakes and how, at the state level, fakes are actually refuted by the russian mass media and russian high-ranking officials eh good evening eh well, actually, the problem with russian fakes is she didn't put it yesterday and she didn't put it at the beginning of the great invasion uh, really, this is such an immanent sign, uh, a sign of russian information policy and russian foreign policy, in particular , she is involved in uh, such lies , twisted propaganda, and accordingly, when this uh manifested itself against ukraine already with all their might, well, in principle , it has already started since 2014, various vacchecker organizations began to appear, for example, such as stopfake, which caught russian speakers actually twisting known facts, that is, which were it is not so difficult to refute by simply referring to some reference literature or some additional materials, then organizations such as pilgrims were