mike, malachy and myself and my mother. that was mike's wedding about 30--i don't know--32 or 33 years ago. his first wedding. c-span: where are your brothers today? guest: malachy--the bear--the bearded one is in--is in new york. he's an actor. he's writing a book. and alfie--m--mike runs a bar and restaurant out in san francisco, seal cove inn, and alfie--alf--they all went into the bar business. people used to say, 'well, when are you going into the bar business?' i said, 'when my brothers go--become teachers.' alfie--alfie--he--we had great hopes for him because he's the only who had any kind of education. he went to secondary school in ireland, came over and we all thought he was going to go up to colum--he went to columbia briefly. and we thought he'd become a lawyer or something like that, but he--instead, he opened a mexican restaurant. the only irishman you ever met that opened a mexican restaurant. c-span: and it's still there in new york? guest: oh, no, it's gone now. c-span: oh, gone? guest: los ponchos. it was

no malachy is writing about. he was approached to write a book and he is doing it on his experiences in new york. it affected our lives because it brought us all together and then the next generation of kids, they know more about where we came from. because we talked intimately down the years. we didn't burden them with the whining. but now they can read it. i think they're very proud that the tribe has some prominence now. >> host: what is the second book going to be and what will come out? >> guest: i think it will come out in the spring of 99. i'm trying to get to it. and it's about my life in new york. but mainly what i discovered, what i learned as a teacher. i stood in front of those classes for over 27 years, talking and learning mostly. i used to say to them since i was in high school, september in january when we get the new president. by the end of this term, there's one person person in this class will have learned the most and that's me because i want to learn. and i would learn something from each ti