united states supreme court case on reapportionment that actually is based on wisconsin's malapporti malapportionment. that was a surprise. you don't need 20 republicans. all you noeed is two or three. that changes the entire dynamic because the senate is very close. i think you're going to even find some conservatives who are very uncomfortable with some of the things donald trump is doing, this appeal to race, appeal to anti-semitism and all the different things he's been involved with, unwilling to condemn. i think you're going to find a number of republicans who aren't even liberals coming -- or mod ra moderates coming to help on some of these issues. i'm a cup half full kind of guy, tavis, even in the middle of the worst time i can remember, i see little flickers of hope and got to encourage those kind of republic cans to work in us. >> that's the wisconsin in you being hopeful and optimistic. let me close on this note tonight as we have the conversation commemorating the anniversary of 9/11,s what say you, senator feingold, is the message all these years later about remaining vigilant, about ho