let's go back to our breaking news story now because a malaysian boeing plane has reportedly crashed in ukraine's east where the military is battling against local self-defense units and apparently the aircraft was traveling from amsterdam and disappeared from radar sixty kilometers away from the russian border all two hundred eighty passengers and fifteen crew members are presumed at this point to be dead and that is according to ukraine's security services let's get more on this story and cross live to our correspondent who's new the ukraine russia border if you can hear me ok just bring us up to date what's the latest are it well at this point we are we are hearing that the plane that went off the radar. you know we at the time of the crash now the pictures from the donetsk people's republic are the. ordinary thing that they have absolutely nothing to do with this at the same time there was information coming in from the air at this. point that they have. no information on a or any of their planes missing and then again it was a boeing seven hundred seven when the largest planes o

aviation experts to find out what's behind many oddities of the fatal routes that brought the malaysian boeing over the war zone in eastern ukraine. plus while the world's in shock over the air crash of deadly military air strikes continue on eastern ukraine sixteen civilians have been confirmed dead in the city of lugansk. welcome thanks for joining us once again my name is neil harvey you're watching r.t. international. now experts from several countries are joining an international probe into the tragic crash of a malaysian passenger jet the wreckage site in eastern ukraine is spread out over a several kilometer radius and white cotton markers have been placed where the victims' bodies have been found all two hundred ninety eight people on board were killed among them eighty children. it's believed that the plane was shot down by a missile however the european commission says it has seen no evidence confirming this so far a team of volunteers from europe's main security watchdog arrived at the scene on friday earlier some of them complained that local self-defense forces were restricting th

ok let's get more on our breaking news story a malaysian boeing reportedly crashed in ukraine's east where the military is battling local self-defense units now apparently the aircraft was traveling from amsterdam and disappeared from radar around sixty kilometers from the russia ukraine border we will keep you up to date with this story. can tell you we can get more right now let's go to our correspondent. hopefully we've got on the line right now can you hear me you have your pick of your yeah this really has just broken in the last few minutes so probably the information is a little sketchy but what exactly do we know at this point. well we do know that there was an early release a. boeing seven eighty seven that went down to a near the russian ukrainian border it's not yet clear exactly which side it has fallen on i believe there is integration that has fallen on the ukrainian side however we do know that there have been this year one hundred people on board are where exactly it was going and what the details they say the details are not yet clear. now of course we're waiting for

talks to aviation experts to find out what's behind many all duties of the faith groups malaysian boeing over the war zone in east ukraine. also while the world is in shock over the air crash and deadly military strikes on eastern ukraine continues sixteen civilians have been confirmed dead in the city of lugansk. thanks once again for joining us my name is the harvey and you're watching r.t. international. experts from several countries are joining an international probe into the tragic crash of a malaysian passenger jet the wreckage site in eastern ukraine is spread out over a several kilometer radius white cotton markers have been placed where the victims' bodies have been found or two hundred ninety people on board were killed among them a teacher. it's believed that the plane was shot down by a missile however the european commission says it is as yet seen no evidence to confirm this the russian president and the chancellor of germany are they have agreed on holding an international investigation into the crash a team of monitors from europe's main security watchdog as the arrived a

remember them belonging to a malaysian air boeing seven seven as you have said two hundred eighty passengers on board fifteen member crew the plane went down it reportedly was traveling at the moment the incident at a height of about ten kilometers in the air so exactly the causes for the incident at this point are unknown but of course we do have to keep in mind that where the plane has gone down is that it is an area near donetsk where we have seen some of their most intense fighting between that is the entity forces and the ukrainian military now zach exactly where the debris is where it has fallen of course because as i have said are not yet clear all i can say is that we were actually we were

what they wanted to do but the crater is huge it happened very close to the school where the malaysian boeing crashed that two hundred eighty two bodies that were recovered from the site of the crash are right here and were later taken to the city of saurez where there were gaps in refrigerated train cars have now reached the town of call for that beyond the rebel controlled territory here in ukraine and reportedly the bodies will now be airlifted to the netherlands and we are expecting confirmation on that very soon meanwhile members of the always see monetary mission who are here in ukraine here at this site and observing everything that's going on said they were completely satisfied with the transfer of the bodies from the city off. of i have watched. the train and the wagons and i'm. thinking the story itself the bodies. group of quality meanwhile malaysian experts have also arrived on the scene they have already got a hold of black boxes that was done late last night by the self-proclaimed governments all five eastern ukraine here where the malaysian airlines boeing seven seven seven cra

board so let's round up the details as we have the now on our breaking news story this hour a malaysian boeing seven seven seven airliner is reported to have crashed in ukraine's east where the military is battling against local self-defense units now apparently the aircraft was traveling from amsterdam and disappeared from radar sixty kilometers away from the russian border according to the manifest two hundred eighty passengers are on board fifteen crew members and very sadly we are getting information from ukraine's security services the presumption from them is that all of the people on board are dead we have had eyewitness reports again these are unconfirmed but they do seem to corroborate the information we're getting from of the sources eyewitness reports unverified saying that they have seen parts of the plane wreckage on the ground as well as bodies and malaysian airlines who originally claimed to have no information on any possible plane missing they have since sent out an official tweet confirming they had indeed lost contact with one of their planes in that region of east ukraine.

while the malaysian airlines boeing seven seven seven crashed in eastern ukraine last thursday over two hundred ninety eight people on board were killed among them eighty five children as the plane's flight data recorders will help shed light on exactly what happened that being handed to the u.k. for the coding according to the ukrainian government meanwhile key west in the days have been criticizing the self-defense forces in ukraine's east the hindering the investigation the work has been made more difficult by the presence of separatists . repeatedly prevented international investigators from gaining full access to the wreckage as investigators approached they fired their weapons into the air well initially investigators had trouble reaching the crash site which is in the middle of a conflict design but michael bought his cue from the sea a mission which is monitoring recovery efforts says that's no longer the case we didn't receive any obstruction it is most of yourself we had security cordon around us most of the time and we did visit the railway station twice our passage to the af

period by malaysian airlines a boeing seven seven seven one of the largest. one of the one of the most popular air carriers out there was carrying two hundred ninety five people on board going from down to kuala lumpur obviously when we're talking about this sort of flights we're talking about very international number of people on board so of course at this point we cannot confirm exactly. nationals of which countries possibly could have perished in this crash i have to tell you one thing though however i looked at some of the pictures that are floating out there on the on the internet and it's possibly one of the worst things that i have ever seen in my own in my life and not of the i'm not of the weaker kind at the at this point sorry for that person interjection i just thought there's something that we really really do need to get across to our viewers now of course we're talking about an area which has been there which has been basically the scene of some of the most intense fighting between the defense forces and the ukrainian. military forces in recent

aviation experts to find out what's behind many oddities of the fatal routes that brought the malaysian boeing over the war in eastern ukraine. plus while the world.

what they wanted to do but the crater is huge it happened very close to the sport where the malaysian boeing crashed. now while the international community is boiling over who is to blame for the fatal crash there are those who simply need to figure out how to move on as relatives and friends mourn their loved ones are to speak to all of went to meet one grieving family. i know but probably so. the people of iraq to pay tribute to a family in this restaurant was part of the very fabric of the community this family is so within the whole community would mean a whole city so everybody knows someone here and has been coming you know for years so you're quite shocked restaurant owners both in general low died in the crash along with ms lewis mother jones we will only this son kevin wasn't on the plane now he's left pick up the pieces you can imagine how big the last cease fire ends his grandmother. works in the restaurant also. hope he can manage to. go on like you spend state outside the asian restaurant floral tributes. those who knew the family concerned more with laying the dead to rest it n

malaysian boeing adeline has been reportedly downed based on a waters and interfax a malaysian airlines flight with about two hundred ninety five people on board has crashed grief spills over his family and friends of those on board m.h. seventeen make it to the airport in amsterdam at the scene of the crash passports strewn among the carnage each one a painful reminder of a person who died and each of those people leave behind friends and family it's in small communities like this one that have been directly affected that the real human tragedy becomes clear neil tall and her partner course children were on the flight outside the flower shop they owned floral tributes pile up those who saw them day on day left stunned we couldn't believe what's happened. rumors spread quickly on the facebook when i came in the morning to see outside and those are the flowers. then you know it's it happened for real in the shop window a sign for the postman drop the mail off next door we're on holiday there were very lovely people and. you know i did want to just to just enjoy a holiday for two weeks an

malaysian boeing airline has been reportedly downed based on a horse. and interfax a malaysian airlines flight with about two hundred ninety five people on board has crashed grief spills over as family and friends of those on board m h seventeen make it to the airport in amsterdam at the scene of the crash passports strewn among the carnage each one a painful reminder of a person who died and each of those people leave behind friends and family it's in small communities like this one that have been directly affected that the real human tragedy becomes clear neil tall and her partner course children on the flight outside the flower shop they owned floral tributes pile up those who saw them day on day a left stunned re couldn't believe what's happened. rumors spread quickly on facebook in the morning to see outside then those are the flowers. then you know it's it happened for real in the shop window a sign for the postman drop the mail off next door we're on holiday there were very lovely people and. you know i did want to just to just enjoy a holiday for

deployed military jets so close to passenger planes because we're not only talking about the malaysian boeing there were other planes flying over that area as well and why not reveal it because since considering everything that's happened this is crucial information and now i believe we can hear about some more details regarding the second aircraft and what russia's defense minister believes that was . at five twenty one pm and thirty five seconds another mark of an aircraft appeared at the point of the boeing crash this aircraft was steadily monitored by radar station in ask and detour in sky during the next four minutes having spotted the jets in air traffic controller failed to identify it as the aircraft most probably didn't count for self identification system which is characteristic of military aircraft. what's also interesting is that ukraine's radar activity seemed to have peaked on the day of the crash and actually satellite pictures show that from the fourteenth of july ukraine's anti aircraft missiles were being moved towards the east of the country which is interesting again why b

officials saying that washington has failed to back up its allegations against russia over the malaysian boeing tragedy in fact they went as far as to write an open letter to president obama insisting the secretary of state's claims about the plane crash seem premature and are an attempt to quote poison the jury we heard from an ex cia and state department employee that have laurie johnson he was among those who actually saw in this letter. our point is very simple if there's actual evidence martial that show what if it's indisputable but as we've seen repeatedly from the u.s. intelligence community where there was in the law is used to justify the invasion of iraq in two thousand and three up through the information that was leaked last year with respect to syria more often than not there are laws being produced that have a bigger intention to mislead the american public to justify actions against russia that we do not believe are justified and for the mainstream us media the ukrainian crisis is a pretty clear picture in their eyes all the complexities involved well they boil down to one perso

fighters have been shot down military planes have been spotted in the area since the crash of the malaysian boeing seven seven seven after a no combat zone was declared and which reportedly fired missiles at the road from don yes to the town of snares noir which is used by international investigators and observers when we get more details on this latest development we'll of course bring them to see here on r.t. international where u.s. intelligence says there is no direct link connecting russia to the malaysian plane crash in eastern ukraine washington does claim though that moscow created the conditions that led to the tragedy presenting their evidence that's an intel briefing official say anti government forces are most likely responsible for downing of the plane by mistake back in their proof are photos and videos posted on social networks which they can't verify and as to see a churkin or explains. u.s. intelligence officials speaking on conditions of anonymity really under thinking veil of secrecy are coming out and saying that they have absolutely no evidence and no proof showing any kind of

consistent with those over ukrainian military jet flying within three to five kilometers of the malaysian boeing. five twenty one pm and thirty five seconds another mark of an aircraft appeared at the point of the crash. monitored by radio station. and sky during the next four minutes having spotted the jensen air traffic controller fail to identify it as the aircraft most probably didn't count for so if i didn't get asian system which is characteristic of military aircraft. why deploy a military jets in an area where there are passenger planes flying and why not mention it also here satellite pictures show ukraine's anti aircraft systems including the book missiles moving towards the east on the fourteenth of july of course he have claimed that face no airborne threat so why the build up plus take a look at this this is what we can see a book missile launcher is the fact that within a few kilometers of the nets around that time this is the spot right here than on the day of the crash and as we can see it is gone now let's move over here and take a look at ukraine's radar activity and see how it

>>a ukrainian aircraft climbing towards the malaysian boeing 77. >> reporter:the rebels accuse the kievvernment of shooting down the airliner deliberately. >>"we have not had any motive to target this plane. but for ukraine, our enemy, crash of this plane is very beneficial." >> reporter:russian television showed outside investigators at the crash scene. they are being watched heavily armed rebels. almost all of the bodies have been remnoved from the scene. tonight the train carrying the remains is headed to the city of harkv, to be flown to the netherlands. there they will be identified, autopsied and returned to their families >> reporter: the airline lost will lead a deep scar on his country. >> catherine: secretary of state john kerry arrived today in cairo to push for a truce between israeli and hamas. kerry will try to get the militant palestinian group to accept a cease-fire deal brokered by egypt. >> catherine: the deal would stop nearly two weeks of fighting that have killed more than 5-hundred palestinians and 27 israelis. >> catherine: hamas - which controls the gaza strip -

gerri: we begin with the latest on the malaysian boeing 777 shot down over ukraine today. u.s. intelligence officials now say it was russian-made surface-to-air missile that brought the plane down but those officials are not sure where it was fired from. we know the plane went down between the border between ukraine and russia. escalating tensions between the u.s. and russia over the incident had a big impact on the markets. wall street's so-called fear index had its biggest gain in more than a year. there was a definite flight to safety. treasury bond rallied and stocks fell sharply. the dow was down 161 points. the nasdaq down 62. oil up over 2 bucks a barrel. for more on this, fox news national security analyst, kt mcfarland. thanks for being with us. a real pleasure to have you here. i said before we really don't know where this missile was fired from, the ukraine or russia, that took this plane down. does it really matter? >> what is important about it is that it rips the veil off of putin phony war in eastern ukraine. i was in ukraine about five weeks ago. i met with the

to aviation experts to find out what's behind many oddities of the fatal route the brawl the malaysian boeing over the war zone in east ukraine. while the world's in shock over the air crash a deadly.

>>a ukrainian aircraft climbing towards the malaysian boeing 77. >> reporter:the rebels accuse the kiev government of shooting down the airliner deliberately. >>"we have not had any motive to target this plane. but for ukraine, our enemy, crash of this plane is very beneficial." >> reporter:russian television showed outside investigators at the crash scene. they are being watched heavily armed rebels. almost all of the bodies have been remnoved from the scene. >> reporter:tonight the train carrying the remains is headed to the city of harkv, to be flown to the netherlands. there they will be identified, autopsied and returned to their families. >> reporter:the american people have apparently made up their minds about who is responsible for the downing of the passenger plane. >> reporter:in a cnn=opinion research poll. 85 percent said they believe russia is directly or indirectly responsible. >> reporter: the crime scene right here on our militants are still policing that. australian prime minister is out rage " this is an absolute sham out situation. he is not the only one nettling prim