go back to malcolm gladwell's books.happen in the world that don't actually make a change until they do. until there is this tipping point. and so what -- you know, the "new york times," ronan far row, the major newsbreakers have done is create this tipping point. and make it so that it is no longer possible to shut us up. and to disbelieve us. apprehension you've seen a retrial in the bill cosby, and calls for more and more of these investigations. it's really vital now, absolutely vital, that women are listened to. not to discourt the playing field, make specious accusations. we must understand what actually is, you know, something really serious, versus something not so fireable, not so serious. and this should be something everybody takes really seriously, rather than trying to keep on -- you know, swim and not sink. and still trying fully to grasp the host california dimension of what's happening now. >> i noticed -- i'm trying to think back in november when charlie rose was fired, your cnn international program too