. >> welcome to the malcolm gladwell interview. he's written five best selling books about subjects like snap judgment, success and under dogs. a sixth book looking at situations we're all faced with on a regular base sis. called talking to strangers. what to know about people we don't know. a look at how common it is to jump to the wrong conclusion. often with dangerous or deadly results. if you think you can tell when someone is lying to you or can judge someone based on a direct encounter with them, you'll learn that you're often wrong. he draws on many well known case from the false murder charge against knox in italy. and cuban spies who fooled the cia. to the world's largest scheme. how so many people were fooled for so long. just because they're human. this misunderstanding has real consequences when it comes to police, judges and juries and others who have to make important decisions based on false assumption. why humans have never evolved to better detect liars and why it's good nor society. i sat down with malcolm gladwel

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. >> welcome to the malcolm gladwell interview.ve best selling books about subjects like snap judgment, success and under dogs. a sixth book looking at situations we're all faced with on a regular base sis. called talking to strangers. what to know about people we don't know. a look at how common it is to jump to the wrong conclusion. often with dangerous or deadly results. if you think you can tell when someone is lying to you or can judge someone based on a direct encounter with them, you'll learn that you're often wrong. he draws on manyel

that's the power of edge-to-edge intelligence. >>> joining us now is malcolm gl gladwell.ff's ponzi scheme. the case of jerry sandusky. it is good to to ye, i'm always fascinated by the topics that you choose to tackle. what did you see that led you to this topic. >> they all have a common element. they involve two people trying to communicate and failing on a fundamental level, right? the people that saw jerry sandusky did not understand who he was. a chapter on bernie bernie mado. they thought he was a brilliant invest investor, but they were duped by him for so long. why it would be so difficult to understand someone that we're in such an interact with. >> so the prescription is to talk to the strangers and try to understand them before it gets to the point of the ponzi scheme or jerry sandusky. >> i try to understand what are the specific strategies that are leading us astray. i also come down that we have to accept that our -- that our inability to make sense of strangers sometimes is a necessary price we pay for a trusting society. and i am very anxious that we not d

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david and goliath by malcolm gladwell and the power behind and andy andrews. they are nine of them. >> how do you select the books that you read quick. >> it varies. biographies and history i tell people smart people learn from their mistakes but brilliant people learn from other people's mistakes that's what i'm interested in biographies because it's not about dates and names and others but it's experiences just as important or more important to learn to learn from other people's mistakes. >> on vacation i'm not much of a beach guy i take a bag full of books and i go through them pretty quick i read on the plane anytime i can find a quiet place with a hot tea that i can read. i take notes. i keep a little journal to take notes on the books that i am reading and there are two other books that i didn't mention by charlie kirk and doctor in the house by michael burgess who is one of my colleagues. but i'm trying to draw from other people's experiences and insights which helps me navigate the issues

david and goliath by i'll malcolm gladwell, and i read the power behind the light by richard simmons and the little things by andy andrews. and i think there's another one one -- or nine of them. that's -- i'll think of it in a minute. >> how do you select the books that you read? >> it varies. i'm big on biography and history. i tell people that smart people learn from their mistakes, but brilliant people learn from other people's mistakes, and that's why you should read history and biographies, because you have the opportunity to learn not only what went right and not necessarily a bunch of dates and names and facts, but experience. and it's just, in my opinion, as important, maybe more important to learn what went wrong. thus, you learn from other people's mistakes. >> where do you like to read? >> wherever i can. i like -- on vacation i'm not much of a beach guy, so i take a bag full of books, and i go through them pretty quick. i read on the plane, just anytime that i can get, find a quiet place and maybe have a cup of hot tea. just sit back anded read. i take notes. i keep a li

. >> before we go on to other books i want to go back to malcolm gladwell. he is so counterintuitive in a lot of his approach. does that interest you? >> i find it incredibly interesting, because what he does is he doesn't take anything at face value or what you see on the surface, and probably "outliers" is one of my favorite books, that he wrote, because what he does is to say here is the premise and this is why you should be curious about this premise. and this is how it becomes different than you may have thought that it was going to be. and "talking to strangers", as i said, i'm just a little bit into that, but for someone who likes to communicate and considers communication to be vital to what i do, i think "talking to strangers" is something that is very instructive there. "words that change minds" ," shelle rose charvet has written i think this is like her third book, and this is another of those communication books, and you look at, being someone who comes from the sales and marketing side of things, going back to my first jobs, and selling, figurin