and from malcolm nance to say that on national television that trump supporter's are just like those who support isis, that means that we have 63 million isis thinking people in this country because that's the number of people that voted for president trump. >> i think part of it is, not only did they not care but they were given all the latitude to make the case. and it yet when they made the case it was exposed that there was nothing there. i give credit to ed o'keefe there at cbs for calling it like it so i do. when he went out and talk to real voters across america nobody cared because there was no evidence there and they wanted to talk about real issues. how do you see that? >> absolutely. they live in a bubble and they have always lived in a bubble and have seen this, going back to the last election when everybody thought hillary clinton was going to win. we watched their faces that night and the utter, complete shock and disdain over the fact that this president really wanted. i was at the rally last night and i have to tell you, we packed that stadium in a county that hillary

i'm going to bring in malcolm nance, an nbc terror analyst. terror, that's what they're saying, malcolm, but we don't know why they're saying that. we don't know, in the course, the three or four hours since this has happened, whether they've had a chance to check out his online presence. obviously there's a whole issue of the hoax, that he was wearing a suicide vest. what are the things they would have looked at that would have said to them that this is a terror incident? >> you have to understand that the british counterterrorism command has a lot of intelligence assets that we in the news media just do not know about. within seconds of the shooting, they could have taken his fingerprints and had it into their database and found out that he was what we call a known wolf as opposed to a lone wolf. that's a terrorist or extremist that just hasn't bubbled his way to violence but may have had arrests in the past or been seen in the extremist underworld in the past. so from there, other officers within minutes could have already been raiding his

malcolm nance our guest tonight. >>> coming up, the stories that were competing for air time and our attention today, including this one. the democratic race expanding by one more democrat, when we come back. (danny) let me get this straight. after a long day of hard work... ...you have to do more work? (vo) automatically sort your expenses and save over 40 hours a month. (danny) every day you're nearly fried to a crisp, professionally! (vo) you earned it, we're here to make sure you get it. quickbooks. backing you. >>> last thing before we go here tonight, a quick chance to bring you up to speed on some of the other stories. for starters, another step today in the case of the president's tax returns. this was competing for our attention today. the case may now go to the supreme court. the president lost a ruling before a full federal appeals court today. that's the headline. they agreed with the lower court, which ruled that trump's accounting form must turn over eight years' worth of returns to congress. >>> another story. the prosecution has rested in the trial of roger stone, and

want to bring in malcolm nance, msnbc terror analyst. erin brought up a really good point here in that the commissioner stressing he doesn't necessarily know the motive, don't know the motive yet, but they are deeming this a terror incident. how are they so confident this is a terror incident considering the fact they don't know a motive? >> well, i think they're confident because this attack, looking at the tactics, looking at the individual, how he carried out the attack, his target set, has the exact same framework of the borough market attack in 2017, and, in fact, closer to the lee rig by attack in 2013 in which individuals armed just with knives -- this is what we call an individual weapons attack with a blade, and using just that came out, using just that came attack massive people, individually through stabbing action. then went out and continued that while moving. the only difference is it took place at the city gilt arts building. there are the black barriers, those are the anti-vehicle barriers that went after the attack on we

believers and this is their reality and they will not surrender it you know they're dead enders malcolm nance is a former intelligence officer for the u.s. navy and a regular commentator on m s n b c he's known for his anti trumps thoughts and it's come in for criticism for supporting conspiracy theories. these people feel that they are the foot soldiers and executors of what the disenfranchisement of the white race is feeling and donald trump is giving them subliminal orders in their head there are no different than the mobilized you know some starting radicals radicalized terrorists donald trump had been on the russian intelligence surveillance for a very long time as early as 1977 with his 1st wife ivana and he bought it was from the czech republic which at that time was chocolate then they brought him to moscow for what he wanted which was trump tower but from that moment on an enormous dossier of information was collected on him and more importantly how to exploit him and. direct what reaction he times says it's wrong to give people what months a platform in the media. it was extremely i

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2014 and november 2016, 9,743 ukrainian and despite, former navy intel officer turned nbc analyst malcolm nancecontinues to say that president trump is a russian asset. shannon? >> shannon: trace gallagher, thank you as always. ari fleischer is tweeting out about today's hearing saying this. this is like watching a meeting of the council on foreign relations discussing the most appropriate foreign policy to resist aggression you aggression in the ukraine. good stuff but hardly the stuff of impeachment. good to have you with us. what do you make of the assessment there? is it one that rises to the level of impeaching any president? >> not only does it not rise to the level of impeachment but it's very difficult to understand how something could allegedly be used as a bribe. that's after the famous conversation i think it's verging on ridiculous. if they don't know, it's hard to lean on them. >> shannon: and we see the terminology is changing a little bit on accusations. sean davis, one of the cofounders of "the federalist" tweeted this today. as best as i can tell, trumps real crime is used to d

. >> malcolm nance and jim kavanaugh, thank you both for helping us understand this situation unfolding in london. >>> president trump's surprise visit to the troops in afghanistan in thanksgiving and a more surprising announcement about the taliban. we'll dig into 2020 and news that kamala harris' campaign is facing some challenges. you are watching "velshi & ruhle," right here on msnbc. emu & doug with this key to the city. [ applause ] it's an honor to tell you that liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. and now we need to get back to work. [ applause and band playing ] only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ itso chantix can help you quit slow turkey. along with support, chantix is proven to help you quit. with chantix you can keep smoking at first and ease into quitting. chantix reduces the urge so when the day arrives, you'll be more ready to kiss cigarettes goodbye. when you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix, you may have nicotine withdrawal symptoms. stop chantix and get help right away if you have c

and with us for more, malcolm nance, veteran of naval intelligence, special ops, homeland security, 35 years working in the field of counterterrorism and intelligence. he's our analyst in this area for good reason. the title of his new book "fair warning" is pretty direct. "the plot to betray america: how team trump embraced our enemies, compromised our security, and how we can fix it." welcome. it's good to see you. i have to ask you how you react when you hear of the president on a cell phone from a restaurant in ukraine. what goes on in your mind? >> we predicted that at some point this would actually happen. and president trump, who uses an unsecure cell phone, is communicating with his personal representative on a shady deal in a foreign capital which we already know in the intercepted victoria nuland communications that happened in ukraine that the russians intercept >> he can actually, through his own intermediaries, through spies that he has in the ukraine, through his allies in the russian oligarchy, they can actually now steer donald trump or even through phone calls to donal

. >>> we're back with reporting on this new testimony coming out today with malcolm nance.tant in what we're learning and what it animates about the history of this whole sorted plot? >> the most important factor that we're seeing here today with the -- today's breaking news because by the time we're finished there will be another one, is that this story goes back much further than this year. i think what we're starting to see with the information about that rudy giuliani's associated lobbied the prooefevious presid to bring up this exact same story before zelensky shows that donald trump was afraid of biden much earlier and said he was going to create this plan to take down biden. where does that tie in? it ties into robert mueller and the entirety of vladmir putin's plan to undermine the yiunited states democracy. donald trump doesn't do anything for slvladimir pumir putin unle been coordinated and agreed upon. we learned the promoscow head of hungary and putin were telling trump their version of what ukraine was which was a corrupt pro-western democracy which they wanted

i'm joined right now by ashley parker, ned price, and malcolm nance and author of "the plot to betray america." there it is. in another breaking story just moments ago "the new york times" revealed that president trump had already been briefed on a whistle-blower's complaint -- the whistle-blower's complaint about his dealings with ukraine when he unfroze the military aid for the country in september. that means that trump was well aware he was being accused of wrongdoing when he released the aid and when he denied a quid pro quo to ambassador sondland. let me go to ashley parker on this. ashley, this is a "times" story but what does this mean? >> it just adds another detail to this rapidly unfolding story, but it's one thing the white house and the president's allies have always said there's nothing untoward, there's no quid pro quo because the president ultimately released the aid. this now shows perhaps the reason he released the aid was because he knew he was in trouble, he knew there was a whistle-blower complaint coming and that is what prompted him, and it wasn't quite the pict

in the plot to betray america, counterterrorism analyst malcolm nance argues that the trump administrationas compromised national security. diplomatic correspondent paul richter profiles four american diplomats who chose to serve in the middle east following in "the ambassadors." and in taken for granted, gianno caldwell of fox news argues that law makers have failed urban communities and offers his thoughts on how both political parties and citizens can work toward reform. also being published this week in all hell breaking louis, the nation's michael claire examines climate change from a pedagogue's perspective. and a.k. sandoval strauss the' barr owe america reports on how latino immigrants restored american cities in the 1990s and 2000s after disinvestment. look for these titles in bookstores this coming week and watch for many of the authors in the near future on booktv on c-span2. >> booktv recently visited capitol hill and asked republican congressman gary palmer of alabama about his reading list. >> well, over the last year or so, i've read several books. the american spirit by dad

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joining me now malcolm nance and author of the view. sarah kendzior.it was ukrainian the attacking elections and not russia. your thoughts. >> look, if you amplify talking points by russia that are meant to cause a wedge between russia the ukraine and the united states as well as minimizing russia's attack on the 2016 election elections, you are acting as a russian actor. he's absolutely right. we have to call this stuff out. >> it is bad enough malcolm for donald trump to not believe our sbel inte intelligent services. we all know it is common knowledge now that they did it. he does not believe it. we are finding out he's not alone. devin nunes, he's the ranking member of the intelligent committee. if republicans still have the majority of the house, he would be the chairman of the intelligent committee. that guy seems to believe a conspiracy theory may have tried to participate and trying to smear the fellow americans and joe biden's son. what does it mean to you that a ranking member of the intelligent committee believes this conspiracy theory that

joining me now is author and media analyst eric bolder and kristen vausz and gabriel sherman and malcolm nanceon post." this is so shameful and enraging to me that we have an entire network dedicated to not only broadcast the people who apparently live on earth, too but who are attacking a member of the military of veteran, a person who served this country with distinction and honor and has american's interests a lot heart. this is from people who has lectured the nations and democrats for decades about commitment to america, commit to american national security and this what they do. kristen, let me come to you to get your reaction to what we just heard here from people who supposedly are patriots and cares so much of this country but think nothing of smearing veterans anda veteran and a member of the military. >> it is so important to point out, foreign born service members have been existential and without selfless soldier, the lafayette or i mean heroes of the american revolution wo were born in other countries who through out our military history born abroad but come here and believe in o

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