the piece was that people, when confronted with malcolm x, always say, "but what did he do?" "what policy did he pass?" and i think that that's a really impoverished way of looking at human progress, you know. we are... not to overdo this word, but spiritual beings. our souls need things, you know. we need to feel better about walking down our streets. we need to feel like we have some sorof ppose, that there's someone out there, you know, who sort of shares us, who reflects how we see the world. so i think there are all sorts of progresses, and, you know, they might not necessarily track, you know, with socioeconomic indicators, but they're real nonetheless. >> hinojosa: i love the title of your memoir, the beautiful struggle, because you're not negating the fact that it was hard. >> right. >> hinojosa: you know, it was difficult to be poor, and the fact that your parents made a decision about giving you that experience of living in a predominantly african-american working-class community. >> right. >> hinojosa: your mom said something really beautiful. she said, "i never wa

unit cops was a man named gene roberts who was in the nation of islam, left with malcolm and was malcolm x's bodyguard. in paris, just a few feet away when he was assassinated. you can go on line in the to see pictures of malcolm a moment after he was shot giving mouth to mouth resuscitation. that man was gene roberts. malcolm true his last breath from an undercover cop. and he used his credentials to join the black panther party and, in fact, became a security officer. the other person who was part of that elite unit was my mentor. became, used, you know, and some military background, but he always was the crazy panther. he was the person that if we talked about organizing a building that was having problems with the landlord to take the money and make repairs and fix the borland and do some things that were, you know, and all the money in escrow, he would be, like, where does the landlord live. let's find out where his mansion is in go burn it down. of course the young brothers were like, yeah. but the person who is aggressive and that person knew is telling you, i know where to get the dy

and malcolm x. he had fierce debates with malcolm x. , and in fact, by 1964 he's refusing to debate malcolm x because he believes that malcolm x has stepped so far out of the mainstream of civil rights leadership. when malcolm started to call for the formation of rifle clubs in 1964, bayard throws his hands up and says that i can't deal with malcolm's demagoguery anymore. i need to focus on something constructive. but your question gets to the, for me, points out a very important fact, and that is that these leaders are not of one mind. they have different strategies, they have different timings in mind, they have a different sense of purpose as well. so don't lump them all together. thank you for your questions. [applause] >> bayard rustin came to -- [inaudible] college in 1947 when i was a freshman and talked about nonviolence. we stayed up all night afterwards tig, and i think many of us -- thinking, and i think many of us were altered in our perspective for the rest of our lives. it was the most

cops was a man named gene roberts who wasn't a nation of islam, who left with malcolm and who was malcolm x's bodyguard and, in fact, was just a few feet away when malcolm was assassinated. you can go online, and you can see pictures of malcolm a moment after she he was shot getting mh to mouth resuscitation. that man was gene roberts. malcolm drew his last breath from an undercover cop. and he used those credentials to join the black panther party and, in fact, became a security officer. and the other person who was part of that elite unit was my mentor. he came in, used, you know, that he had some military background, but he always was the crazy panther. he was the person thatwe talked about organizing a building that was having problems with the landlord into a represent strike and showing the tenants how to take that money and make repairs and fix the boiler and do some things that was, you know, and hold the money in escrow, he would be like, well, where does the landlord live? let's find out where his little mansion is and go burn it down. and, of course, the young brothers were like, y

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it spurred malcolm x to a much more aggressive position on antipolice brutality. he carried that. it was located near harlem. i thought this was a powerful image of the headline there will reads "seven unarmed know grows shot in cold blood by los angeles police." it gives us a historical frame you were born in 1965, right this this is three years before rodney king was born. it certainly gives some richness and texture, did you know about this? >> no. i didn't. but but it's there's been so many films i've seen. i'm always, you know, curious to see that footage and type of bold footage that exists just -- compared to where we are today. >> it echoes your point about the deep foundational faich of urban policing and the repression of, you know, either innocent bystanders, citizens, or politically conscious folks pushing back against the racial status quo in that moment. next slide. you make reference to both the 1965, l.a. rebellion, i'm sorry the 1965 riot, it sort of set the stage for the world you came in to. just in a matter of criminology, it's an interesting space and time to

or malcolm x, denzel or the two documentaries, two documentaries in new orleans or now broadway, it's all storytelling. >> we conclude this evening with a look back at the life and words of gore vidal. >> si have done pretty much what i wanted to do. i'll give a little advice out there for those who who worry about their place in the world. always remember that it is of no consequence to you what other people think of you. what matters is what you think of them. that is how you live your life. >> rose: spike lee and gore vidal when we continue. funding for charlie rose was provided by the following: captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: mike lee is here. he is busier than ever. he just opened a new one man play on broadway starring mike tyson it is called mike tyson undisputed truth. it marks a broadway debut for spike. this summer he is also back to filmmaking. he returns to his beloved native brooklyn in a new movie called redhook summer. variety calls it quote another radically unique entry into the director's

these instances you know i want to bring up there was a report recently that was published by the malcolm x. grassroots movement it was last month and it got barely any attention and it was and what they found was after spending a lot of time researching they found that one hundred twenty black men women and children have been shot and killed in the first six months of two thousand and twelve alone by either police officers. security guards or self appointed law enforcement types like george zimmerman that's i mean one hundred twenty people that's a lot of people and you know other than trayvon martin the mainstream he didn't cover one hundred twenty black people getting killed at the hands of people in positions of authority so yeah it's i definitely that anaheim is something that it happens so often that it's an invisible problem to people that if it doesn't concern you. if these hundred you know twenty something people were millionaires we'd be talking about that which were just there i want to bring to you i mean at the risk of sounding cliche the police are here to protect and serve in

this image comes from our collection of malcolm x to beavers, and this is a response to a police raid on islam temple in 1962 where two african-american members of the temple were killed according to the nation in cold blood by the l.a.p.d., and it spurred a malcolm x to a much more aggressive position on antipolice brutality organizing and he carried that immediately. i thought this was a powerful image. they are shot in cold blood by the los angeles police and this gives a kind of historical frame this is three years before rodney king was born but it certainly gives some richness and texture to it you know about this? >> i'm curious to see that footage. >> it echoes the point about the deep foundational nature of urban police and its repression either of innocent bystanders, citizens or politically conscious folks pushing back against the racial status quo in that moment. next slide. you make reference to both 1965 l.a. trevelyan so it sets the stage for the world and you came in to and this is a matter of chronology with an interesting space and time to be a part of the larger com

african-americans -- a significant number refuse to participate in the war most notably people like malcolm x and many others refuse to be drafted. most african-americans went into the war with the idea of an idea of a double victory as it was promoted by the pittsburgh curry or we see fascism abroad and jim crow at home and most of the time that meant the feeding fascism abroad but not defeating jim crow at home but a whole generation of african-americans were condemned to-transformed by the war because they came north and join the union movement and thought of themselves as having -- black veterans building upon the experience, bitter experience of the first world war came back with more resolve that lives would change for the better despite many obstacles put in place. part of the hickman story is coming back and coping with that clash of expectations, and a significant number of whites who issue racism had to be dealt with. that took a long movement to build. world war ii is the turning point. >> thanks for helping us get this

now, he wasn't an idealogue, he wasn't a conservative idealogue you have betty, you have malcolm x. have you bill moyers, jesse jackson and bruce spinning stein but no dwight david eisenhower. are you kidding me? >> dwight eisenhower was a great military hero and at the end of his 8 years as president he warned america about the military industrial complex. >> bill: he should be on this list and he is not there. >> you know, maybe in the second edition of the book. >> bill: the second edition. so bruce springsteen makes the first edition but eisenhower is going to make the second one? >> you know, bruce springsteen has been the voice of working people for the last 30 years. eisenhower was a brilliant general. but in terms of support for civil rights, for women's rights, for human rights. he waited 8 years until the end of his presidency before he warned us about the military industrial complex. he had to go into little rock arkansas kicking and screaming. i don't consider eisenhower to be in the position of theodore roosevelt and franklin roosevelt. >> he you wrote the book and you

i say in the words of malcolm x if you find any good white people kill them first before they go bad. >> bill: you don't want to kill anybody do you. >> i want to do to your people what have you delighted in doing to us. i want you to treat you the way you have treated us. have you killed our men, our women, and our children and our babies. of course i want to give you the same hell you have given us. >> are you willing to break the law to do that? >> we believe peace, in possible, violence when necessary. >> bill: you just looked at the face of evil right there. finally, on a much lighter note. program that point basketball player dennis rodman entered the no spin zone. >> bill: what was your drug of choice? >> alcohol. >> bill: you were drinking a lot. >> i used to do it because i was bored pretty much. >> bill: did you drink when you were playing a lot. >> oh yeah, like a rock star. >> bill: give me a scale on 1 to 10, 10 being the biggest party animal where were you. >> i was in the upper echelon. >> bill: do you regret it? >> no. i don't regret it at all. >> bill: strange moments

. >> i think the clip we have is from malcolm x.. a cart is quote unquote walking down the street. floating. what does this mean? >> this is a big shot. he told me during preproduction she felt malcolm knew he was coming to his -- assassination. so when he told me that i said how am i going to convey it to the audience? voila, that's the shot. >> but it's in all your movies. >> i use it differently. >> very unusual. listen -- you're right. >> film making. >> we got to run real quick but in the movie mooki is back, you're playing him again and what's he up? >> still delivering pizzas. >> really? >> yeah. [ laughter ] >> okay. no -- no big change for mooki? >> he's never delivered pizza that wasn't hot. mooki never delivered a pizza where the cheese was slid to one side. >> i wish he was my pizza delivery person! the movie is "red hook summer." we're out of time and congratulations on the mike tyson show. it just closed. the play. you had a good time with him? >> mike is wonderful. but it's going to be touring and hopefully people can see it here in d.c. >> if it does and you're here

demonstrators marched with signs from malcolm x park to the center in the northwest. it called for an economy that works for the 99%. they also called for health care cuts and corporate tax breaks. >>> now at 5:35. five firefighters are in the hospital this morning after an apartment fire in temple hills. the flames sparked at the building along huntley square drive around 10:00 last night. 11 units were destroyed. we're told the fire started inside a kitchen on the first floor. residents tell us they were sleeping when they smelled smoke. >> i was screaming, yelling, we smell fire. i went to the door, smoke was all in the peep-out so i knew i had to climb out the window. luckily the fireman seen us and he got my son first and then i climbed down after him. >> my unit is destroyed. everything in my apartment is gone. everything that -- nothing i can save. >> four firefighters were taken to the hospital with minor burns. one was treated for exhaustion. the fire is under investigation. >>> lawyers for former uva lacrosse player huguely. huguely will spend the next 23 ye

i say in the words of malcolm "x," if you find any good white people, kill them first, before they turnant to kill anybody, do you? >> i want to do to you what you have done to us. you have killed our men, our children and our babies -- i want to give you the same hell i. are you willing to break the law to do that? >> we do peace is possible, violence when necessary. >> you looked at the face of evil, right there. finally, on a much lighter note. flam buoyant basketball player, dins rodman enters the no-spin zone. what was your drug of choice? >> alcohol. >> drinking a lot? >> i used to do it because i was bored, pretty much. >> did you drink when you were playing a lot? >> oh, yeah. like a rock star. >> give me a scale, 1 to 10, 10 being the biggest party animal, where were you? >> i was up there in the upper echelon, 15. >> do you regret it? >> no. i don't regret it at all. >> strange moments on the factor, indeed. and before we go, a quick reminder to check out the fox news special, fixing our school, airing this sunday at 9:00 p.m.,

and malcolm x. he appears to be without the mix in 1964 he is refusing to debate now the max. the mainstream civil-rights leaders when he started to call for the formation of the rifle clubs in 1964 he put his hands up and says i can't deal with the demagoguery any more. i need to focus on something constructive. these leaders are not of one mind. the of different strategies and different timing in mind. they have a different sense of purpose as well, so don't lump them all together. thanking for the question. >> kawlija 1947 - a freshman, and talked about nonviolence. we stayed up all night afterwards thinking, and i think many of us were altered in our perspective for the rest of our lives. the most respected spokesman i've ever heard on the subject of nonviolence i wonder if it is in the correspondence or otherwise with the exchange was between martin luther king and buyer -- bayard rustin and i would be interested to know where his letters or archives are. they are primarily at the library of congress but they are also scattered in archives across the country. if you go to

writer and director who has given us quintessential american films such as "do the right thing" and "malcolm x show a talented artist and great new yorker. here's spike lee! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> the roots! >> jimmy: you're familiar with that group. >> yes, they're in one of my films. >> jimmy: yeah, they are. >> we won't say the name of the group they played though. >> jimmy: no -- you can't. >> not tonight. how you doing? >> jimmy: i'm doing great. thank you for being here. we've always wanted to have you on the show, since we started. >> everything's timing. i'm glad to be here. you're doing a great job. you know, i watch before i go to bed. >> jimmy: thank you, my friend. i appreciate that. you know we have a little in common, that we were both born in brooklyn. >> what neighborhood -- i wasn't born in brooklyn. >> jimmy: oh, you weren't? you were raised in brooklyn? >> yeah, i was born in atlanta, georgia. we moved when i was really young. where in brooklyn were you born? >> jimmy: like -- >> what neighborhood? >> jimmy: sunset park. >> sunset park? >> jimmy

or michael jackson video or malcolm x, denzel or the two documentaries, in new orleans now broadway. it's all storytelling. >> rose: how did broadway come about? >> well, i don't have one of those yet. >> i'm going sign this to you. >> rose: okay. >> i've been thinking about doing broadway for many years. and jimmy neederlander. >> rose: great theatre owners. >> him and the schuberts they run broadway. approached me several times about doing something. and at one point we were talking about doing the doing making-- doing the right thing into a musical. and then i was told about mike tyson doing a one-man show in las vegas. only six nights. i couldn't g there in time. so i called up mike and his wife kiki who wrote the play and they were in poland but they were able to get me a dvd. >> rose: what were they doing in poland. >> making money. i mean the guy's got to make some money. so i mean mike tyson's global. people want him. he's in demand all over the world. so they get me a dvd and i was amazed by it. i said this could work on broadway. >> rose: what amazed you about it. >> his st