one of these three people is a gentleman named maleek rahim. when you start about starting this with two other activists, he says very clearly that the reason he felt like he could do this and pull this off in the face of all of this catastrophe all around them, is that they have done very similar work in the black panther party. so we have to understand, you know, these two clinics operating today as distinct legacies of the black panther party's activism. >> host: alondra nelson is very distressed in the african-american community toward health care? and hatred okay to just say health care, but i'm thinking specifically the tuskegee syphilis experiments. >> guest: yes, i think it is an important question. this is the 40th anniversary this july for tuskegee. we see this trust in the public health to deter and we see these accounts in these sort of things. it goes back well across the 20th century. the black panther party was partly responding to that, these issues of distrust. they wanted in their clinics to have doctors who are approachable,