of deya's brothers to leave. >> [speaking wolof] >> [speaking wolof] [laughs] [radio playing] >> maliki, kanni's brother-in-law, is visiting for tabaski. he went to spain in 2003, but returns almost every year to visit the family. >> [speaking wolof] >> [speaking wolof] [laughs] >> [speaking wolof] >> [speaking wolof] >> [speaking wolof] >> [speaking wolof] >> [speaking wolof] >> [speaking wolof] [music plays] [music ends] [music plays] >> [speaking wolof] [music ends] >> [speaking wolof] >> visit viewchange.org, link tv's brand new multimedia website. watch over 350 stories about new solutions to the developing world's biggest challenges. get involved with the issues, share the stories with friends, and help change the world, all at viewchange.org. [rooster crows] >> it is the day before tabaski, and kanni is going to town to buy food for the holiday with the money deya has set aside. >> [speaking wolof] >> the cost of the holiday foods--vegetables, macaroni-- adds up quickly. >> [speaking wolof] >> usually, village meals are predictable-- millet couscous, corn couscous, peanut sauce,

i would say nuri al maliki. >> nuri al maliki, the iraqi prime minister, whom the bush administrationinto power in 2006. >> i appreciate your commitment to representing the people of iraq. >> back then, maliki's appointment was touted by the administration as a triumphant moment for the newly democratic iraq. >> i appreciate you recognize the fact that the future of your country is in your hands. >> to ensure the success of democracy, maliki, a shiite, needed to heal the powerful schism between shiites and sunnis in iraq, but he never did. so when asked by the shiite abusers to fight against isis, the sunni soldiers and the iraqi army simply said no. >> for many sunnis, they looked at iranian-backed regime in baghdad and they looked at isis and some of them made the disastrous calculation that isis was the lesser of two evils. >> the last american soldier left the country in 2011, after the u.s. could not reach agreement with maliki to maintain a military presence. >> the question that we ask today when people look back at that decision is what would we have done with 10,000 u.s. troo

they reported that after iran made sure maliki was re-elected prime minister in 2010, maliki then turnedr iran. he promised to expel all american forces before 2011 was over. now back in 2006, it was george w. bush who put maliki in office in the first place, so does bush bear the blame? richard clarke made a point earlier on in which he tells us what he thinks. >> if it were not for the american invasion of iraq and the subsequent disbanding of the iraqi army by the united states, there would be no isis. isis is a direct outgrowth of the american invasion. >> clark's former colleague douglas feith sticks to his guns. >> if today you knew what we know about what happened in iraq, would you going back have invaded iraq? what's your answer? >> i think that the only meaningful way to approach that is to ask whether president bush, knowing what he knew at the time, made the right decision, and i think he did. >> tony blair, when he was prime minister of the united kingdom, was bush's most public partner on the iraq war. >> of course you can't say that those of us who removed saddam in 2003 b

i would say nuri al maliki. >> nuri al maliki, the iraqi prime minister, whom the bush administrationappreciate your commitment to representing the people of iraq. >> back then, maliki's appointment was touted by the administration as a triumphant moment for the newly democratic iraq. >> i appreciate you recognize the fact that the future of your country is in your hands. >> to ensure the success of democracy, maliki, a shiite, needed to heal the powerful schism between shiites and sunnis in iraq, but he never did. so when asked by the shiite abusers to fight against isis, the sunni soldiers and the iraqi army simply said no. >> for many sunnis, they looked at iranian-backed regime in baghdad and they looked at isis and some of them made the disastrous calculation that isis was the lesser of two evils. >> the last american soldier left the country in 2011, after the u.s. could not reach agreement with maliki to maintain a military presence. >> the question that we ask today when people look back at that decision is what would we have done with 10,000 u.s. troops? would they have enfor

made him an offer he couldn't refuse. >> that was part of iran's deal with maliki, we'll give you a but the conditions are no american soldiers. that was what tehran had demanded. there was no way it would have gone through the parliament. >> reporter: one thing is clear. it was only iraq's army that could have stopped isis. instead, iraqi soldiers threw down their weapons and ran. [ phone ringing ] >> hello? >> next on "blindsided," what drives these people? what makes them tick? you'll go inside the mind of a radical. meet a man who was prepared to die for a fantasy, the idea of an islamic caliphate. the greata property is that you can create wealth through capital appreciation, and this has been denied to many south africans for generations. this is an opportunity to right that wrong. the idea was to bring capital into the affordable housing space in south africa, with a fund that offers families of modest income safe and good accommodation. citi got involved very early on and showed an enormous commitment. and that gave other investors confidence. citi's really unique, because t

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transformed this blank brick canvass into public artwork that will be a symbol of pride for saint maliki school and the surrounding community. >> guiness world records is reviewing the mural's claim for the record of the most contributions to a painting by numbers. >>> pretty impressive. speaking of impressive, forget prime time. this pennsylvania teenager has landed a coveted cover. 15-year-old reece whitley is named this year's sports kissed the year by sports illustrated. reece who excelled in basketball and baseball apparently got his true calling in the swimming pool. he is breaking records in the swimming world. his talent in the pool and efforts outside of the cool pool including mentoring young athletes helped him to beat out thousands of other children for this huge honor. >> i think it's incredible. just to be a finalist among, you know, those very special athletes and kids i think it's something really to be grateful for, you know, to win is, you know, just another extent, it's awesome. so i'm really thankful. >> he apparently fail his deep water swim test when he was self yea

if they feel like isis is better than the maliki government, then what do we do to ensure them -- assure them that that is not true and give them incentive to fight isis? mr. morell: charlie, when i think about what has to happen, we know what the two pieces are, shrink the safe haven and shrink the leadership. to shrink the leadership, i know how to do. shrinking the safe haven is more difficult. you have to do four things at the same time. you have to have a military solution in iraq, you have to have a military solution in syria, you have to have a political solution in iraq, and a political solution in syria. the political parts are more important than the military parts. in syria, i can actually envision a political solution. the solution i can envision is some sort of transition away from assad and a transition to something that looks like the government in lebanon, where each of the groups, the different players in syria get a say in how they are governed, a guaranteed say not taken away from them by election. charlie: including hezbollah. mr. morell: everybody would have a govern

turkey's prime minister >>> coming up on the nouri al-maliki, voters in burkina faso await the outcome of the most democratic election. >> al jazeera meets people on both sides of the wall of shame, on what many say is a dividing line in peru's capital. and nico rosberg makes it three wins in a row as the curtain comes down on a memorable formula 1 season. that and the rest of the sport later. >> the roman catholic pope sent a message of peace. he urged christians and muslims to lay down their winnans o. we have -- weapons, we have this report. >> reporter: for all those that make unjust actions, i make this appeal. arm yourself with love and m.e.r.s.ly. religious differences are not the source of conflict. it lies in regimes supported by france. the bluntering of natural resources and ploxy wars. in the last few years religion has been exploited to divide the country furthers. 80% of the country is christian, 50% muslim and 5% amenist. the pope popes to visit a mosque on monday. he believes it's the way forward for peace. pope francis visits a cap that is hope to 4,000. the pontiff sp

then -- iraq's prime minister - - nouri al-maliki -- flammed the fire by counteracting saddam hussein's sunni favoritism with disproportion ate benefits for shiites. sunni's felt more disenfranchised -- creating more support for what would eventually become isis.--- while sectarian differences between the shiites and sunni's were getting worse -- american forces in iraq pulled out in 2010.the next year in syria -- rebels challenged bashar al-assad's regime -- and the group that became known as the islamic state stepped in -- fighting the same anti-government forces that al-assad was.the syrian president and the islamic state seemed to have come to an agreement that even if they weren't explicitly helping each other -- they at least wouldn't hurt each other -- since they had an enemy -- the anti-government forces -- in common.from there -- isis expanded into northern iraq -- contained only when they met kurdish and shiite forces backed by u-s led airstrikes. ---in the areas where isis has been in control -- the world has seen some of the most gruesome acts of violence in decades.they've

then -- iraq's prime minister - - nouri al-maliki -- flammed the fire by counteracting saddam hussein's sunni favoritism with disproportion ate benefits for shiiteses sunni's felt more disenfranchised -- creating more support for what would eventually become isis.--- while sectarian differences between the shiites and sunni's were getting worse -- american forces in iraq pulleded the man nicknamed jihadi john -- ho was nortorius for killing prisoners on camera -- was killed himself in an airstrike.professor nicholas grossman at the university of iowa says the stated goal for the group is to have their own state.but he says realistically -- constantly trading cities and land between isis control and other armed forces seems more likely now. after the break...what you have to say about the balance between taki in people who need help -- and makingngsure the homeland stays safe -- welcome back.. back..while governors all across the nation weighed in on if they'll accept syrian refugees to their state -- swisher'mayor chris taylor also jumped in the fray -- saying he would welcome refugees

unfortunately nouri al-maliki the prime minister said about decimating it. >> you could take the administration's response that the united states doesn't lead. >> i would disagree with secretary clinton respectfully on this score. this actually is america's fight. he can't be solely america's fight. >> what wins do is lead a coalition that includes significantly the muslim nations in our region who will have to fight and defend their way of life. criticism didn't way. gop candidates accusing barack obama and his former secretary of state and democratic front-runner hillary clinton for failing in the fight against isis. >> a couple months ago we knew the strategy was bad. despite the fact that the terrorism is the single largest threat to america. reporter: hours are for the attacks president obama was on good morning america saying isis isn't gaining strength. >> what is true is that from the start our goal has been first to contend and we have contained. reporter: meanwhile the issue of the refugee crisis and terry has become a national security threat for some. president obama wants to bring 10

al-maliki. he might have a pass that george bush will not get. >> there has been a realisation during the period of the bush administration into the early years of obama administration, that when you deploy conventional sources to a period of conflict, we are bound by the rules of engagement of the geneva convention, i.c.c. and others. the enemy isn't. he had to take a clandestine approach, using the c.i.a. and drone operations to achieve the degrading effect, because the problem is there. >> president obama made a lot of promises in 2008 that he was not able to keep. when he got into office and reality has a way of hitting you in the face. the world was more dangers than he gave it credit for. i think the national security agency. the c.i.a., they were agencies created at a time, in the 1950, where the world was a different place. i don't think we are up to speed as we head to another presidential... >> when the president makes promises and pronouncements, the security is none of them know. the

is better than the maliki government and the successor government, then what do we do to assure them that's not true and give them an incentive to fight i.s.i.s.? >> so, charlie, when i think about what has to happen here, right, we know what the two pieces are -- shrink the safe haven and put pressure on the leadership. how do you -- to shrink the leadership, i know how to do. get good intelligence, get good targeting information and take care of it. shrink the safe haven is much more difficult. you have to do twowr things at the same time. they are, you have to have a military solution in iraq, you have to have a military solution in syria, you have to have a political solution in iraq, and a political solution in syria. the political parts are more important than the military parts. in syria, i can actually envision a political solution. the solution i can envision is some sort of transition away from assad and a transition that looks like the government in lebanon where each of the sectarian groups, each of the different players in syria get a say in how they're going to be gover

[laughter] >> i would love to maliki about of money is spent to defeat to me was a pretty trivial measure. i actually thought the 16 counts was too high it should have been 8 ounces. nobody was telling people they couldn't buy them if they wanted to but the soda industry acted as if it was armageddon they took millions of dollars in places of elections so there you know, in richmond california they spend more than $2 million in berkeley and san francisco they spent 11 million altogether. that did a lot of money and you have to sell a lot to fund those types of things settle so with coca-cola and pepsi to fund the salaries of the chief executive of those companies in the order of $20 million per year. these are corporations that behave like any other using a the playbook of the cigarette companies very similar and they follow that playbook exactly and while the end of the nutritionist care about the occasional 7-ounce soda but the larger ones that are problem. it requires much more attention than it has gotten in the past. but with advocacy today without pay have attempted is exceeded to g

political question, obviously it was at its worst when the previous iraqi government was in power, the malikit. now you have a new prime minister who talks a different story. >> he does. >> rose: but this is a political issue, and everybody says they somehow have to rally the sunnis to be willing to fight against isis in order to have a chance. >> yes. i think so two things. they have to really the sunnis. that hasn't happened yet. >> rose: why not? because they're still not convinced that the-- >> they're not convinced that they're going to win or that they're going to be inclusive. so if you take, for instance, i mean, look, isis is holding their ground. despite all these airstrikes and all the operations that they've done, you know they still have ramadi. that's the capital of anbar province. they still have fallujah. the whole area along the euphrates river is in the hands of isis. up the tigris haif noseul. they're doing pretty well. and conversely, the iraqi army is not. so i think what the iraqi government has essentially dom are lie on is not the iraqi army. it's shiite militias. and

it was unveiled during a dedication ceremony this morning at the future home of the saint maliki schooln north philadelphia. >> with those numbers, the the 2700, that means that we are on track to earn the guinness world number for most contributions to a painting by numbers. >> now we have to wait and see if philly can take that crowd malaysia hits is the the current record holder for that category. we will see what happens here. >> i hear the wind blowing around out there it started out nice and then cloud rolled in and then we are like is it going to go rain? and here it comes. >> here it is. >> i know the rain is here and we will be dealing with the threat for rain throughout the next 48 hours at least. right through wednesday, night, we have got some wet weather in the forecast so make sure that umbrella is handy. here's good news. i am not telling you to have snow boots or shovel or ice scraper, it will warm up in the 50's. that means thinks a all rain this storm and then things improve as we head toward the end of the week and weekend. it is not all bad news. the lets look outsid

work and that was the point forget about a military withdrawal but to politically disengage where maliki was up puppet of iran and did exactly the things that could not be done so to keep the most extremist sunii jihadist out of the country. we allow this to become another sectarian war. the united states is walking into another trap. we are partnering with people that are seen by well-meaning sunii that could be our allies again and want to be desperately desperately, are seen as no better than i says -- isis or worst. with russia by said russia will intervene in people look to me like i had three heads and i said they will not go after isis' despite the propaganda their goal is no different to destroy any credible alternatives to assad the free syrian army army, this is a catchall category yet hundreds of not thousands of militias armed underground but there are those that they have been partnering with and they're holding ground against the assad regime but put his goal is to destroy that would get the first three weeks according to u.s. government with a 90% of the russian air force

things that people need to recognize if the democrats like hillary and bernie sanders and murder maliki think refugees is a good idea then ask hillary. ask bernie sanders, they go to vermont? how many go to baltimore? and in the upper east side of manhattan and hollywood and georgetown why is that liberals have so interested that this is a matter of compassion but they will not say, to our neighborhood to live next door to russ? data know if they are really refugees or terrorists. charles: but they don't care because the but it is not in their backyard. they also threw down the gauntlet on paul ryan is this a defining moment for him as well? >> if the president will not protect the american people then of falls upon the congress to do something. people said what can he do? cut the purse strings the initiative that we could pay for all of this we are broke we have millions of americans who have jobs and a decent places to live. who will house the more feed them or take care of them? if we're really into the humanitarian effort and put the refugee camps for the people that go into them ar

. >> whether is the oil money, money stolen by maliki. >> the people protested against corruption and lack of services. >> translation: people are not treated fairly, we see nothing fairly. economy and services are deteriorating. people are struggling. ? a. privilege. the prime minister responded to the pressure, announcing reforms. they have been blocked by perimeter. that stalemate ended the clinic. >> we have to affirm that the need to protect the tonne sit use must not be used to circumvent or delay the step. activists are calling for corruption. public outrage seems for from materializing. >> iraq is not the only country struggling with bad weather. 18 died in flash floods. heavily rain soaked the province. the prime minister held a meeting to discuss the situation. we can talk about the whether. is it likely to dry up in. >> things looks like they are going to improve. over the last few days it's been wet. we had another batch of struggle. ment this is what happened, you can see the cloud that was over us, giving us heavy rain, we've had four days of torrentially heavily rain fo

that we weren't paying attention to everything we should be a maliki at all the procedures for your help what he has done is put to a hold. >> a year responded to say this is probably true. >> i did say that. >>. >> no further questions. >> did you write a letter to the deputy secretary to move back to ruth philadelphia the summer of 2014? you did not. >> i just want to say prior to his appointment many of us to represent southern california was in contact with secretary shinseki to quickly fill this position that was vacant for nearly one year and there was the enormous backlog of claims it without this position being filled we were concerned veteran claims would take far too long to process. and they may have been exasperated. >> says he filled the position he makes the real effort to increase the visibility and has come up to ventura county to participate in federal benefit amounts and i another veteran organizations and is also come to participate to learn more about the community of which i am very grateful. he has them both professional and committed. the purpose of all were meetin

xavier answered on the ground with maliki wilson breaking a 14 yard run and that set up quarterback bryce schulte with a strike to blake whitten right at the pilon to cut the lead to 10-7.. that one almost took me out.. and then the saints came up with a big play on defense sean murphy with the pick.. and that set up another big run wilson as he gets outside for big yardage all the way to the 24 yard line.. and moments later schulte keeps it himself for the 9 yard touchdown to give xavier a 14-10 second quarter lead.. but decorah answered right back wth a zach lee 51 yard touchdown run to give the vikings a 17-14 lead and this game went back and forth.. xavier with another big play on d on the nick stark interception but it wasn't enough decorah comes in 5-5 and upsets undefeated xavier 30-21. i will have more highlights on the endzone good tuesday morning. here's a live look on our city cam. it's november third and here's what you need to know today. voters will head to the polls today across eastern iowa. on the ballot -- city council positions and a tax levy that could have the cedar r

maliki government turned out to be much worse than any one expected, including americans who supported them. how does that tiny and? tie in?oes that who is of double that he? >> is nickname growing up was ," because he had a penchant for telling people off. throughout his life, he more and moreard extreme forms and ultraconservative forms of islam until the year 2000 he big basically became what we call a jihadist and was seeking out to revolution against the state. at the same time he was getting his graduate degree. he ended up getting a phd in 2007 while he was fighting an insurgency. gettingery clever never the politics and it rose to become its leader in 2010. he was also in prison for a while. >> he was. he was only there for nine months. he made important connections. ,e served as a spiritual leader working with other jihadists, but also members of saddam hussein's regime. many came up with it -- many came up with him through the ranks of the islamic state. howlie: help me understand that came together to emerge as the beginnings of what we see today. will: in 2006, they proclai

xbox against targets that were very politically sensitive to strike in iraq and the premier nouri al maliki was happy to have jsoc conduct a withering campaign against the sunni insurgents and al qaeda in iraq but was far less enthusiastic of the permissions for targeted shiite militants even though they were supported by iran were killing 11 americans so this was the work around in a few cases to kill those crates without knowing that that was the americans that did it and it's important to say that these were not ied's ~ for people that the restrictions placed but the restrictions placed on the use of them meant that usually the delta force operator would have to have eyes on the target. it had to be detonated at a time that code of the targeted individual but not a whole bunch of civilians. >> host: and usa in you say in the book the political restrictions those imposed actually hobbled the task force operations and that's one of the reasons they decided to take this on to work around it but they also worked at the fbi. this was something designed so that if the fbi went and investigated

where you actually have to stop and be able to have somebody next to an al maliki before he does theilitary, all really strong points of iraqi government. we had the sunni tribal leadership, we had it won, and we had it "j we left and then it allowed the al maliki group to purge it. this, think it's overstated the connection between the shia connection, between the iranian -- there is a -- i think it's alignment, but it needs to be -- but it will disappear as soon as the entrants go away. >> quickly though, it's not american forces. american forces -- >> -- as advisers, absolutely. you don't need maneuver divisions. >> all right, okay. from your perspective, as you look at this, this is coming up against all we hold sacred, right? we think about that attack that happened on friday night. this is part of the french soul. this is who they are. this is about joie de vivre. you can hear the glasses tinkling. feel the laughter peeling out of the night spots. these people took this soft target and said, you are all vulnerable. how do you go about fighting a force like this? >> well, there

what al-maliki -- amnesty are saying is that the impact of the spills have had a devastating effect,hell has failed to implementment the finding of the united nations report published in 2011 in which companies like shell were told that they must clean up these areas. shell say they have done some cleanup, but the findings today in the amnesty report point to something quite different. >>> parents in nigeria say a lack of funding is damaging the quality of free public education. with more than 10 million children out of school, experts are predicting a crisis in the years to come. >> reporter: like many girls her age, her dream is to be a doctor. she came to this private school to chase that dream, because her parents can afford it. >> this school has the good facilities of [ inaudible ] my own ambitions. >> reporter: at a public school her friend is also chasing a similar dream, but she has a tougher challenge because of her parents financial standing. >> they can't afford to do it for me. and i'm happy for it. because they try all of their best to see that i'm educated. >> reporter

it was unveiled during a dedication ceremony at future home of the saint maliki school in north fill amount the the mural is titled the sacred now, faith and family, in the 21st century. >> even though the events of the september, two months ago is history, we will never forget how the city, our city, and our people, throughout the region came together to work collaboratively. >> the the dynamic mural stand to receive the guinness world record for most contributions to a painting by numbers. >>> beautiful. >> pretty good. >>> coming up on cbs-3 "eyewitness news" a mystery in china that went viral is finally solved. down to earth explanation for what looked like levitating cars. >>> cyber monday mania is expect to be the on-line shopping day of the year, consumer reporter jim donovan is on your side with how to shop safely while getting the best deals. advertise the season to take part in the cbs-3 joy of sharing toy fest. today we are kicking things off with the philadelphia pops festival choir here in our studios. we will take you there when we come right back. thioh my god. friday.

charlie: the maliki government turned out to be much worse than any one expected, including americans who supported them. how does that tie in? and who is al baghdadi? will: he is from a northern part of iraq. his nickname growing up was "the believer," because he had a devotion to religious texts, but also a penchant for telling people off for not adhering to his form of islamic law. throughout his life, he gravitated toward more and more extreme forms and ultraconservative forms of islam until the year 2000 he big basically became what we call a jihadist and was seeking out to carry out revolution against the state. at the same time he was getting his graduate degree. he ended up getting a phd in koranic studies in 2007 while he was fighting an insurgency. he was very clever in navigating the cutthroat politics of the islamic state and rose through its rank to become its leader in 2010. charlie: he was also in prison for a while. will: he was. he was detained by the americans in 2004. he was only there for nine months. he made important connections. he served as a spiritual leader,

take look at this massive mural at the new saint maliki school in north philadelphia.le including the pontiff himself helped paint it during the world meeting of families while they worked on cloth panels that were then attached to the walls. organizers say the project is eligible for the guinness world record for most contributions to a painting by numbers. >> and right now jim gardner and the "action news" team standing by with these stories and much more coming up next at 6 o'clock. authorities in montgomery county investigate a double murder-suicide in hatfield. we've got the latest. >> and it's the biggest online shopping day of the year and "action news" gained access to a facility that will process millions of those orders made today. >>> meet the local athletes making a splash on a national magazine cover. >> that and much more coming up next. now for monica malpass meteorologist adam joseph cecily tynan jaime apody ducis rodgers sharrie williams the entire "action news" team, i'm rick williams. have a nice evening. good night. >> ♪ >> ♪ >> "action news." delaw

the problem with maliki who basically threw the sunnis not only out of the government but out of the military, added fuel to the development of isis and i think the united states by virtue of not getting involved sooner in trying to establish some kind of moderate force there, i think all of those are factors that have contributed to the situation that we're facing now. >> all right, our panel is also here with me, my colleague tom brokaw of nbc news, kathleen parker of the "washington post," helene cooper of the "new york times" and ron foreigni ieforni "national journal." tom, i know you wanted to ask the secretary a question. >> i've been talking to national security experts and they've been saying the same thing. the president up to this point has been, to put it kindly, the commander in chief but not very commanding and there's a great deal of concern that on the other side, on the republican side, there's too much loose talk about putting thousands of american troops on the ground there, suggesting that the americans can get involved in a ground war. what specifically should be

it depends what prime minister maliki would have allowed us to do. were certain -- charlie: we would have seen it and been able to destroy it at its core? david: we would have had better intelligence, i would think. whether that enabled us or allowed us, because of the restrictions on our forces, placed by the iraqi prime minister and government, whether we would have had the capability to do something to them is very much in question. what is not in question, i don't think, is that we would have had a much better understanding of what was going on. because we'd have all these different bases and, if you have bases then you have, as they say, the ability to gather insights. from those different locations. again, it's an open question as to whether or not we could have influenced the government and prevented it from doing -- taking the actions that were so highly sectarian, that they alienated the sunni arab population that would work so hard over the previous five years to bring back in to the government. charlie: as you've always said, this is a pol