and because, you know, frank and malissa were kind of at odds. on me or for me to keep him company while he was driving. and i knew he loved her, but he was talking about the issues with her because she was an opioid addict and a methamphetamine addict, so he was considering leaving her. and anyway, this guy tells me that he thinks malissa had something to do with it. and i said, “oh you know, maybe he just went somewhere just to cool down or whatever.” he goes, “i don't think so, daryl.” so then he said he was going to dig a little further because he said he had talked to malissa and her story wasn't quite adding up. she kept being ambiguous. so he said, he would talk to her some more. he called me back around 4:00 in the morning and told me, “frank is dead.” and he had talked to the wife and she told him what happened and what had gone on. she confessed to him. he told me, and this is before -- it wasn't until about maybe three days later that the police found out what happened. brian: you know, just listening to your talk here in the last 45 m