they would come to mama kay. made all the little kids conscious of our social responsibility by white washing the basement, keeping it clean so somebody could stay there if they needed it. had a shower and little bathroom in the basement. didn't have much. but she shared. we had all the people that would ride the rails back in '50s. a lot of people were still riding the rails, if you know what i mean. we had names for everybody. wheel wear row whilely. peg leg peg. >> what was your nickname? >> we had nicknames for people that came to stay with mama kay. she had three rules. you had to stay sober. i have too many kids here. mama kay, i will feed you take care of you but you can't swear. you can't drink and you got to work. that is the good example. so i'm a product of my environment. i have saw people with nothing but lived by rules. you had to do something. papa used say, no work, no eat. i understood that very well. so when i see people that are down and out, i said, do something. but you have to, some people ne