. >> mamen. she started going to their church. she went to her little white a visible church in the morning and go to house of prayer in the afternoon. tavis: you know they would be going all day anyway. in a white church, you are out in 60 minutes. in a negro church, you're there all day. [laughter] >> she came out one time -- i used to have to take her. oh, man, the pews are hard as coal. the 12 listed not work. the house was in the back -- the toilets did not work. the out house was in the back. how many collections or how many sermons? this church was one of each. and then you go to the country club. [laughter] and i remembered distinctly this afternoon, it was raining. i was taking her home. the sermon was about jacob. then it was about fighting. i said, you know what. i was a snarky guy. i said what i will do. the next big check i get, i will tithed & to get a space heater so i can -- i will tied 10% to get a space heater so i can come back. one voice sent you did not have to do. the other voice said 10% net or gross? [laugh