it is interesting, because the popular culture evolves, and in the 1950's, mamie eisenhower, althougheen as very much a traditional figure, she was every bit as much a fashion role model, a cultural icon as jackie kennedy was just a few short years later. >> and the next administration. everybody copied her bangs. >> television was the internet of its day. >> she was always on the best dressed list, which looks a little strange to us now, post jacqueline, but in her day, she was thought to be one of the most best-dressed women in america, and she continued to make the best dressed lips, listing top american -- make that best-dressed lists. ike had real health problems. it made it easier for the first lady to drop -- to adopt the more traditional protective stance. >> mamie eisenhower perhaps lesser-known. we found in the first series, there were quite a few that we introduced people to. who are the gems? the unknown gems? >> grace coolidge. the best first lady you know nothing about, you know? we can all agree, scratching our heads how she ever stayed married to him, a very difficult

you know, i'm looking at it from are mamie eisenhower. wasn't it a bit embarrassing? why was she picked as a female? >> it was interesting to me that after ike gets the command to invade europe, he's the supreme commander in europe, general marshall -- who as i pointed out if my remarks was death on any kind of hank can key spank key -- hanky-panky -- he cooks up a reason to send ike back to states. he's been separated from his wife, mamie, for something like a year and a half. and he sends him back ostensibly to have meetings with the president and other figures, but he mainly wants to get ike and mamie together for a while to make sure this marriage survives and it doesn't interfere with eisenhower's command of the other forces in the europe. any other questions? >> all right, mr. persico, thank you. but it did not answer my question. [laughter] >> i was always concerned about the this decision in the pacific command where after the gawptless surrenders, but at that point they then expand the command further down, and when wainwright vendors -- surrenders, he loses

it is interesting, because the popular culture evolves, and in the 1950's, mamie eisenhower, although figure, she was every bit as much a fashion role model, a cultural icon as jackie kennedy was just a few short years later. >> and the next administration. everybody copied her bangs. >> television was the internet of its day. >> she was always on the best dressed list, which looks a little strange to us now, post jacqueline, but in her day, she was thought to be one of the most best-dressed women in america, and she continued to make the best dressed lips, listing top american -- make that best-dressed lists. >> ike had real health problems. it made it easier for the first lady to drop -- to adopt the more traditional protective stance. >> mamie eisenhower perhaps lesser-known. we found in the first series, there were quite a few that we introduced people to. who are the gems? the unknown gems? >> grace coolidge. the best first lady you know nothing about, you know? we can all agree, scratching our heads how she ever stayed married to him, a very difficult man in many ways. >> contro