manafort's man in kiev. the trump campaign chairman's closeness to a russian army trained linguist turned ukrainian political operative is raising questions, comma, concerns. that was published on the night of august 18th. a politico profile of manafort's right-hand man in ukraine, konstantin kilimnik and now he quit on the 19th. and now, today, the "washington post" reports that that same game, turns up by name in these previously unreported subpoenas that we are just learning about today that are coming out of the eastern district of virginia as federal prosecutors and a federal grand jury proceed with whatever it is in their federal investigation that concerns paul manafort. now, the reason kilimnik got his own profile in politico.com, the reason he's consistently been a point of interest in this ongoing story is not just because of his ties to manafort, not just because he was running paul manafort's office in ukraine, not just because he was involved as a business partner with paul manafort and the big

manafort's deputy, rick gates, also registered as a foreign ajet. gates was a the trump campaign and inauguration committee. manafort served as the trump campaign's chairman for three months. he resigned in august amid allegations he received more than $12 million in undisclosed payments from the party of regions. his work in ukraine has drawn scrutiny from congressional committees investigating russian meddling in the u.s. election. at a february press conference, the president talked openly about manafort's political work. >> and he said that he has absolutely nothing to do and never has with russia. >> reporter: the white house has tried to downplay manafort's involvement in the campaign. press secretary sean spicer. >> and then obviously there's been discussion of paul manafort, who played a very limited role for a very limited amount of time. >> reporter: but in addition to running the campaign for several months, manafort also remained an informal adviser to mr. trump after the election. in december he spoke with "cbs this morning" about his d

president of ukraine who rose to power with the help of manafort. and all that rolled up into the perhaps bottomless portfolio. and we're going to talk to a jonalist who has been connecting that investigation into manafort and ukrainian payments with the trump/russia probe for quite a while now. she's also the host of this show, the ultimate dot connecter, rachel maddow. how are you? >> hey, ari, you can probably tell from my voice, i'm still not exactly myself. i'm still recovering from this thing. but i am super happy that i am able to with you guys tonight. and this is addition-- i mean, about dot-connecting, i feel like this is one of those moments where we've been wush whacking through the forest for a long time and we just came out into a clearing and we can see where we are. it is sort of a landmark moment in terms of this investigation, i think. >> when you see that the special counsel is now overseeing the manafort inquiry, what do you think that means? >> you know, it -- you covered it very well, i thought, in the "a" block in terms of wha

worked for manafort in paul manafort's ukraine office. two weeks after that meeting with kalimnik, paul manafort was forced to resign from the trump campaign because of his connections to russia. "the washington post" obtained a statement today from mr. kalimnik in which he insisted that nothing improper was discussed at that meeting with paul manafort. joining us now, rosalind helderman, political investigations and enterprise roerts for "the washington post," and david cay johnston. rosalind, it is your story in "the washington post" here that we are basing all of this reporting on. it sounds like you had some interesting communications with mr. kalimnik. he provided you a written statement and did that through paul manafort's lawyer. >> yeah, that's right. we became interested in . kalimnik in part because we obtained a subpoena that was issued out of the eastern district of virginia this spring that related to paul manafort and mentioned mr. kalimnik's name. we tried to get a hold of constantine directly. he as far as we know is curre

involving manafort. he would not say one way or another. why is that? why won't you tell us yes or no? it is been weird all this time. tonight, washington post reports that trump campaign chairman fort, officially as of today finally register a as foreign agent. his registration reportedly covers two years from 2012 to 2013. we are going on the washington post details here, we have not been able to get our hands on the piling. according to the post, he reports that he and his firm got $17 million from the proputin political party that he worked for in ukraine. why paul manafort felt compel today to register for something he says he stopped doing three years ago? >> we don't know. what's going on in your life that makes you want to tidy that up? >> we have reports of special counsel robert mueller is consolidating on all investigations on the election. so now two top campaign folks finally registered. we'll talk to senator mark warner in just a moment and we'll talk with him about the one other news story

manafort. i think we're going to ask for more. there does seem to be a pattern, whether it's paul manafort not disclosing ties to a ukrainian government, or michael flynn not disclosing ties to on the turk affiliates or perhaps others, but there seems to be a pattern of folks not coming clean in terms of their ties -- we now have film fired, and obviously some manafort now coming forward. why it's taken him so long those are the questions me and other members of the committee warrant to ask. >> you had to ask questions about the way your job i don't mean to don't hate me for asking it this way. >> you say in complete ignorance -- i'm not going to sure i fully buy that, our your audience, but fire away. >> this is about banks, money, real estate deals, money laundering. we've been trying to follow this trail of the veb bank, the undisclosed meeting with jared kushner, the ties to the trump property. we've been looking at this money-laundering stuff, the case involving the deutsche bank loans to trump, we've been trying just as obse

saying that he will review that review of manafort. that's not great news for the white house but it does not automatically undercut their argument that trump has eliminated his ties to manafort and it might have little to do with the core of the campaign for president. the other part of parx report does namechec current new trump officials including the man who just picked mueller for this job. take a look at this tonight. the parx reporting that the special counsel, mueller, may expand his inquiry to include the top two doj officials, jeff sessions and rod rosenstein. they said that now discredited letter recommending that trump fire james comey for one reason. that comey was allegedly unfair to hillary clinton. which president trump later said was not the real or only reason he fired comey. rosenstein wrote a medical over and both he and sessions discuss that had firing with trump, despite sessions withdrawing him from the russia probe. trump saying that caused the firing but then trump admitted that was not true in an interview wit

manafort and stone.out of d.c. and out of republican politics. he and his wife had been exposed by "the national enquirer" as swingers and frequent visitors to sex clubs. >> the swinger scandal that "the national enquirer" exposed forced roger into the shadows. he had to operate from the fringes particularly as the republican party moved farther to the evangelical right. a person like roger was no longer palatable as an out front political consultant. >> reporter: in 1999 stone worked with donald trump as he weighed a bid on the reform party ticket. in 2000 he helped george w. bush take the white house by sending protesters to florida to shut down the recount. always looking to live up to his reputation as a dirty trickster, stone takes credit for bringing down new york governor eliot spitzer. stone was later accused of spreading false rumors about pat buchanan having an illegitimate child which stone denied. during campaign 2016 ted cruz blamed him for planting the fake story that cruz had had five extr

candidate trump fired paul manafort from his campaign after a series of reports on manafort's ties to russia and ukrainian politics. he's the second high profile member of the trump team to register retroactively as a former agent or a foreign agent. the former national security adviser michael flynn registered retroactively for work he did with the turkish government. both men are looking into the investigation in the russian interference of the election and the trump ties to russia. kevin corke has more. >> i'm glad you mentioned that, $17 million. other members had to register and detail their activities as foreign agents. this was a massive setback for the administration before it became the administration. the campaign suffering. the president did get rid of paul manafort, although they have been clear to suggest what he did then was no reflection was a broader collusion with the russians. i should add this, people are talking about this and they're asking the simple question, what did he know, talking about president, and when did he know it. >> paul manafort who was for a time

between 2012 and 2014 paul manafort received more than $17 million to lobby on behalf of the party of regions. when that party was set aside he left for russia. we've now learned roger stone will testify before the house intelligence committee next month so i want to bring in barry meyer who co-authored the manafort story. he's a member of the "new york times" team that won the 2017 pulitzer prize for international reporting. congratulations for that. >> thank you very much. >> manafort, we knew he was working for this party. >> indeed. >> we knew this for a while. >> yes. >> we do not know what effect that has had on anything and whether it's related to the trump investigation but a guy who was if chairman of donald trump's campaign worked for this pro roegs party for a while. what do you make of it? >> the shocking thing about the filing yesterday was not the fact that he worked for the party of regions but the extraordinary amount of money he made, he made essentially $8.5 million a year during this two-year period. $17 million and he worked for the party of regions for ten years s

this document says paul manafort was paid $17 million over a two-year period. it was known during the presidential campaign when paul manafort was the chairman of the trump campaign that he made millions representing this pro russian ukraine i can't remember politician but we didn't know how many millions. now we know, the other thing we know, he was legally required to disclose it and did not do that. he's the second trump associate who had to file retroactively, mike flynn being the first. the justice department is scrutinizing every move these people have made and went and looked at manafort's dealings in ukraine, you have a legal requirement to disclose this, did not do that. this is the product of months of negotiation. it may just be just the beginning foremanafort's legal troubles. >> if and what repercussions does one face by doing this retroactively? if you forget to pay taxes, you get a fine. >> you get a fine at least. >> typically there isn't much enforcement of this. it's typically the remedy is we force you to file. there is a criminal penalty for

he's already looking at flynn, at manafort, at these different figures. and now we are hearing about sessions and rosenstein. and there's really no apparent limit to what mr. mutualer and his team can look into. that's what's so scary for republicans in the white house r republicans on capol hill is they don't know what direction this is gog to go in. the longer it goes on, the more people it touches e deeper this thing goes and the harder it is for them to talk about and certainly do anything else. >> and a big shoe drops next week unless there is some interruption in what we think is coming, that's the comey testimony on thursday? >> exactly right. that's sort of the big thing that all of washington, all of america is waiting for. james comey as we've seen before knows how to turn it on. he goes before the cameras and he can give bombshell testimony. we saw that when he discussed the famous incident during the bush administration when he rushed to the hospital to stop the attorney general from being forced to sign something. i think we are anticipating

manafort. we will ask for more. there seems to be a pattern of folks that are not coming clean in terms of their ties to russia. why it's taking him so long, those are the very questions me and the other members of the committee want to ask. >> joining me now is matt miller justice and security analyst and former justice department spokesperson under president obama. heidi and shannon here, too. thanks for joining us. how strict is the doj about reporting this particular kind of consulting? >> so, they're strict. you are supposed to file within ten days, not five years, as paul manafort did here. five years after he started this representation. but this is one legal area where you can kind of doj will let you unring the bell. he has not removed his liability. he can be charged with that. it is very rare that the justice department will charge you if you come in and file after the fact. >> why do you think if you can talk about this it took so long for man afort to make this filing. some talk last month maybe this wa

he took from r.t., the money that manafort got from those areas. he will go after carter page and all the characters in this drama, and every one of them will be picked apart like a chicken dinner. >> no doubt about it, chris. this is the most respected law enforcement official in the united states, a decorated vietnam-era combat veteran. and with the appointment of special prosecutor mueller, we know something. we know we're going to find out what happened here before this is all said and done. before the appointment of a special counsel, we didn't necessarily know that was the case. but clearly this is a strange story. so many of the actions, whethe it's the rush to try to relieve russia's sanctions, the return of the spy compounds, all of the contacts, all of the dishonesty about the contacts with russian officials, we're going to find out everything. and this is going to be a far-reaching, wide-ranging probe. and what's always the case is that it's the cover-up that gets you. and so for those administration officials who have been on tv on a ne

i'm with you on that, that would mean manafort, carter, page, somebody like that. and then what was fascinating, comey said that basically flynn wasn't central to the russia investigation that he was touching on it. of course, flynn wasn't honest in the answering of the official forms to become national security head but they only touched on that that it wasn't related to that but that he could be flipped for that. in other words, they could flip him because they had him on something he dishonestly answered but it wasn't central to the russia thing. i always assumed what trump was afraid of he had something to flynn and fnn could be flipped on that, and flynn would testify ainst the president that he had some conversation with flynn in terms of dealing with the russians affirmatively. and if that's not the case, where's the there there. if it isn't manafort because he wants to throw him under the bus where is the concern that trump has that has put him on defense for these months. >> kelly o'donnell over at the white house, the president shortly before noon, before

saw a way to influence the trump campaign through manafort.e are questions being asked about how that plank in the republican party platform about the aid to ukraine. taking a step back, we did a deep dive trying to answer the question what is president trump doing to prevent the next russian attack that his team tells him will come in 2018. and we couldn't come up with anything. nobody inside the administration or out can point to a plan or a coherent set of steps that the trump administration is taking to protect the election system, to deter russian behavior, go after fake news, any of that stuff, nicolle. they're just awol. >> and ken, what do you hear about the pace of the investigation, both the senate intel committee and the house intel committee's work and the mueller investigation? >> well, you know, i think it may have settled into one of the phases. special counsel investigations have taken on average two years. so we're at the very beginning of this and there's a blizzard of news with comey and sessions testifying. we may be enteri

we're going to hear more and more about manafort going forward. i love the idea, by the way, that he's now retro actively listing himself -- al capone, i want a do over on my income taxes. >> not an advisor to donald trump. >> the other thing, with manafort is, the rewriting of history that goes on constantly at the white house, they act like he was around for about 20 minutes on the trump campaign and he ran it for what three months? >> michael, podesta yesterday he declined to criticize the obama administration for not doing enough to stop the russian hacking. we've heard from people within the obama administration didn't think they did enough even adam schiff didn't they did enough, what's your take? >> hind sight is 20/20 and the hypocrisy from president trump that we see on this is far more shocking to me on whether president obama was strong enough. the obama administration did do some things. the public statements, the post election expulsion of russian diplomats, the tightening of sanctions. i think it's really, really difficult to underes

paul manafort has retroactively registered as a foreign agent for the work he did for kroounl. according to the filing, his firm received $17 million over two years between 2012 and 2014. we're talking major money. furthermore, nbc news confirms the senate intelligence committee will be granted access to those now infamous comey memos which the former filibuster director wrote after his meetings with president trump. this is big time. i'm joined by the ranking democrat, senator mark warner of virginia. thank you for joining us. that is to me a couple big stories. what do you make of the fact president trump is saying, he's using it to take a swat pat his predecessor, that russia did get involved. and number two, that there was american collusion. >> first this is grudgingly months after all the intelligence agencies, every senate democrat and republican that i know of, and frankly foreign leaders like the president of france who have been strong against putin. so the fact the president may have begrudgingly acknowledged it, what i worry about is that he, and his administration,

what i mean by that, specifically, in the case with paul manafort, what's been reported, manafort, long-standingong fbi investigation into the klepocacy in ukraine. the millions of dollars that was stolen by the proputin dictator who manafort worked for for years. the investigation involves fbi agents working, including, on site in kia and then ukraine, investigation on going for years. in the case of mike flynn, the on going information that involves him, reported the likes to foreign contacts, including his foreign business ties. that is a grand jury investigation that's produced multiple seasons throughout u.s. attorney's office, the prosecutor overseeing that flynn investigation is reported to be a veteran espionage prosecutor. if these recent news reports are true, that both the flynn investigation are part of mueller's information between possible conclusion, we have confirmed they'll have management control of all of the doj and resources that were previously devoted to other inquiries. that's new information that we can confirm that tonight in terms of the resources under mueller's contr

is that manafort is part of a long standing years long fbi investigation into the clep talkeracy in of millions of dollars stolen out of that country's government by the pro-putin dictator who manafort worked for for years. that investigation is years long and involves fbi agents working including on site in kiev. in the case of mike flynn the ongoing investigation that involves him reportedly to his contacts. that is a grand jury investigation produced multiple subpoenas through the u.s. attorney's office in the eastern district of virginia. the prosecutor overseeing that investigation is reportedly a veteran espionage prosecutor. if these recent news reports are true that the flynn investigation and that manafort investigation are now part of mueller's special counsel investigation into possible collusion between trp campaign and the russians we have confirmed tonight that that means that mueller would now have management control of all of the doj and fbi resources that were preevviously devoted other inquirinquiries. we can confirm that tonight in terms of resources under mueller

but as the flynn and manafort cases show, as the history of lots of other high profile cases show, the impanelling of a new grand jury, that is sort of thing that's impossible to keep secret forever. and that brings us to the last thing to know about this tonight. it's this guy. in "the washington post" tonight, he's described by a former solicitor general walter dell jer most brilliant knowledgeable federal criminal lawyer in america, period. wow. his name is michael dreeben. he's now part of the mueller investigion into the trump russia affair with increasingly seems like the parking lot obstruction of justice investigation that has arisen along with it. top federal criminal lawyer in america, period. gulp. buckle up. he came to the world justin the usual way ♪ ♪ but there were planes to catch and bills to pay ♪ ♪ so i moved my meeting saw him walk that day ♪ ♪ he was talking 'fore i knew it, and as he grew ♪ ♪ he'd say i'm gonna be like you, dad ♪ ♪ you know i'm gonna be like you ♪ ♪ and the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon ♪ ♪ little boy blue and the man in the moon... ♪ tr

so that manafort investigation has also now reportedly been folded into what robert muller is doing as special counsel. so if you think about that for a second, if you think about what he's doing in washington and these other ongoing investigations involving u.s. attorneys offices and grand juries, subpoenas already issued and vefrgsz underway, those being put under his managerial purview, if the special counsel ends up wanting to issue subpoenas or bring criminal charges, it is possible that he could do that work, he could continue to work with either of both of those grand juries that are already convened and working on some aspect of his issue. there's also a possibility he could i am panel a whole new grand jury. and that's not the kind of thing that's done in public. but as the flynn and manafort cases show, as the history of lots of other high profile cases show, the impanelling of a new grand jury, that is sort of thing that's impossible to keep secret forever. and that brings us to the last thing to know about this tonight. it's this guy. in "the washington post" tonight, he's

we know his people, paul manafort and michael flynn were getting money from the russians. we know his son-in-law was meeting with the top russian bank president. you can believe what you see in broad daylight, or you can believe what dracula, vlad the impaler, is telling you. that's "hardball." thanks for being with us. "all in" with chris hayes starts right now. >>> tonight on "all in." >> will the president invoke executive privilege? >> the president will make that decision. >> the white house now reviewing options to prevent james comey from testifying. >> he's a showboat. he's a grandstander. >> tonight, the legal and political implications of invoking executive privilege. plus -- >> if it was an innocent meeting with jared kushner, why don't you want to talk about it? >> new questions over the kushner meeting with putin's banker. and new fallout from the secret trump plan to ease russian sanctions. and inside the chaos, disinformation and firm french handshake that spurred the president's decision to leave the paris accord. >> a lot of it's a hoax. it's a hoax. >> wh

so that manafort investigation is also now reportedly been folded in to what robert mueller is doing as special counsel. so if you think about that for a second, right? if you think about what he's doing in washington, what his agreement is and the other ongoing investigations involving u.s. attorneys offices, involving grand juries, involving subpoenas already issued and investigations already under way, those being put under his managerial purview if you think about that, if the special counsel ends up wanting to issue subpoenas or bring criminal charges, it is possible that he could do that work, continue to work with either or both of those grand juries which are already convened and working on some aspect of this issue. there's also a possibility he could impanel a whole new grand jury. and that's not the kind of thing that's done in public. grand juries operate in secret. as the flynn and manafort cases show, the impaneling of a new grand jury and the grand jury getting to work in terms of reviewing work and issues subpoenas, that is the kind of thing impossible to keep secret

. >>> president trump's former campaign chairman paul manafort register as a foreign agent. in a justice department filing manafort said his firm received $17 million for consulting work done for a pro russian political party in ukraine. he coached members on how to interact with u.s. officials. the work was done from 2012 to 2014. >>> reality winner, the defense contractor accused of leaking a top secret report, appeared in a georgia taupe for a second time. winner has meade not guilty to the charge of transmission of national defense information. she was arrested earlier this month and an october 23rd trial date has been set. >>> two former chicago police officer and one current officer have been indicted on charges that they lied about events in the shooting death of laquan mcdonald. if convicted they could face years in prison. an arraignment is set for july 10th. chris martinez has details. >> reporter: special prosecutor patricia brown holmes announced felony charges against three officers present at the scene when 17-year-old laquan mcdonald was shot and killed back i

you have michael flynn's businesses being looked at, paul manafort's businesses looked at. very quickly, is there someone you see that could be the flipper here? >> the flipper tends to be the person that w.h.o. is in the greatest legal jeopardy. that's probably paul manafort because of disclosure rules and maybe tax questions as well. it's not clear how much he would know about goings on inside the administration. >> yeah, absolutely. john harwood, david frum, and renato marriotti, thank you very much. >> thank you. >>> coming up, you're going to he the russian banker who met with jared kushner doesn't want to talk about his meeting. someonet understands my unique needs. my dell small business advisor has gotten to know our business so well, that it feels like he's a part of our team. with one phone call, he sets me up with tailored products and services. and when my advisor is focused on my tech, i can focus on my small business. ♪ did you know slow internet can actually hold your business back? say goodbye to slow downloads, slow backups, slow everything. comcast busines

h the other was paul manafort whose firm disclosed late last night before he joined the campaign, he received more than $17 million over two years from a ukrainian political party with links to the kremlin. manafort maintains the discloerk you are is unrelated to the russia investigation with you the timing is impossible to ignore. like flynn, he has e mernmerge have the agent who is now a foreign at the policy institute. en, let me start with you. the one thing that there seem to be basic concensus on, this was done by russian intelligence, it was directed by vladimir putin for a very clear aim. and yet reporting indicates that trump's own aides are struggling to get him to ignore that basic fact. >> he appears to have a problem between differentiating and investigation boo the russian attack and an investigation into him and potential collusion. i think he is smart enough to understand the implications. and he better than anyone else understands how they might be related. so i think the reason he doesn't want to hear about it, doesn't want to talk about it, is doing everything he c

circa learned that mccain met twice and they were arranged by manafort and the partner davis.hat wasn't all. russian ambassador sergey kislyak then the deputy foreign minister lobbied washington officials to get the visa reinstated. u.s. intelligence warned the camp there was possible russian military connections to the policy advisors. it sheds light on the operations aimed to interfere with the u.s. elections and the attempts to influence the lawmakers. the big difference between the two campaigns is there is no public evidence to date that trump met with any russian figures banned from the u.s.. while mccain did. mccain did acknowledge that he was present at two events one in switzerland with a group of senators and another in montenegro on a yacht. there is no evidence that the meetings bore fruit for the russians. they did not return the requests for comment. for circa in washington, i'm sarah carter. larry: baltimore former mayor and the police chief were among the names mentioned in a lawsuit rawlings blake were to blame for preventing the freddie gray riots. alison: th

the manafort investigation preceded his taking over. he is getting up to speed. he's expanding by doing what you would do when you jump into the middle of something like this, is getting people to hold onto their records, to be notified they should not be erasing anything, reaching out and opening up new veins of the inquiry, but certainly not delivering the tax returns to the american public. and it's the tax returns that if they had been revealed in the normal order of business as previous presidents have and previous candidates have, there would probably be a lot less spelkilation, and from the president's perspective, less conspiracy theories as to what might be hidden or what other financial connections to russia there may or may not be. he could have avoided that by releasing the returns before and now. but there's no indication it's going to be transparent. >> as you step back and look at the totality of this thing and the tentacles of this investigation we're talking about, what's most troubling to you? >> you know, craig, as i look at the whole picture a

we know that paul manafort had business dealings in russia, if there was money changing hands aroundme, is that necessarily going to result in some kind of criminal problem for him? >> not necessarily, it is something they are going to be talking about because that is definitely relevant given his business dealings and there are already allegations out there to that effect. here's how it may affect the investigation on a larger scale. it is another forgotten, undisclosed meeting. when prosecutors are looking at evidence, they are going to ask what else has been forgotten and is it important. while it may be absolutely innocent, in context it is beginning to look like part of a larger picture. at least that is the prosecutor argument. >> jon: if manafort is the focus of the investigation, that doesn't necessarily mean that then candidate trump or the trump campaign is necessarily even involved. he had his own business dealings with russia and the ukrainians at separate from the campaign. >> it's amazing how day by day what we see are the tentacles of this investigation getting broader

that touches on paul manafort directly and that robert mueller has taken over the investigation that ukraine theft, corruption, money laundering investigation has now been incorporated into bob mueller's work as special counsel. in addition to that there is the case in virginia that he's taken over. this is turning out to be an important thing. one of the ongoing fbi and justice department investigations that was already under way before robert mueller was appointed special counsel is the case involving mike flynn. and his foreign ties. that ongoing investigation has been reported and described by multiple news outlets. it was confirmed as an ongoing fbi criminal investigation last week in sworn congressional testimony by james comey. now we know for sure it's happening. we know that the mike flynn investigation has produced already multiple subpoenas to businesses associated -- to people in businesses associated with michael flynn. we know a federal grand jury has been convened in conjunction with that mike flynn case. that's how the subpoenas are being issued. we know that mike fly

there are cases against flynn, paul manafort. think that is one thing you have to understand about this investigation. criminal investigation. we know that some trump associates and then there is this big swirl of counter intelligence investigation which is where they are looking at jared's finances and to anybody connected to the president. that goes back to looking at what russia tried to do in the election. the president can diminish this all that he wants. we have yet to find a serious national security official who agrees with him. it seems like as the commander in chief you would want to handle that. russia's goal is to disr. democracy. look around. they seem to be doing a pretty good job with it. >> the president pledged to testify under oath about what he said to james comey. he is under no obligation to cooperate with the special counsel. >> he is not. who knows what he means. is he going to testify or give one sentence about what he thinks occurred? does he have a digital recording? we ought to pay note that we are not

you have michael flynn's businesses being looked at, paul manafort's businesses looked at. very quickly, is there someone you see that could be the flipper here? >> the flipper tends to be the person that w.h.o. is in the greatest legal jeopardy. that's probably paul manafort because of disclosure rules and maybe tax questions as well. it's not clear how much he would know about goings on inside the administration. >> yeah, absolutely. john harwood, david frum, and rena marriotti, thank you very much. >> thank you. >>> coming up, you're going to the russian banker who met with jared kushner doesn't want to talk about his meeting. what if we pull customer insights from the data in real time? wait, our data center and our clouds can't connect? michael, can we get this data to...? look at me...look at me... look at me... you used to be the "yes" guy. what happened to that guy? legacy technology can handcuff any company. but "yes" is here. so, you're saying we can cut delivery time? yeah. with help from hpe, we can finally work the way we want to. with the right mix of hybrid i

that says hillary clinton was this or that. >> there's no evidence. >> and paul manafort says, next wednesday, i want you to release that, that'd be great for us. i don't know that that's a crime at all. what's the crime? >> i said it before, i'll say it again, collusion is not a crime. only in antitrust law. you can collude all you want with a foreign government in an election. there's no such statute. >> they might say as the trump campaign representative, wow, you have that? tell the american people the truth. let them see it, themselves. release it. is that a crime to release it, it show the truth, show damaging information? >> collusion, obviously would be alarming and highly inappropriate for the trump campaign, no evidence, by the way, of colluding with the russians, that's not a crime. >> if that sounds convoluted, wait until you hear the latest from the president, himself. that and congressman hynes are next. ...stay asleep longer... ...and wake up feeling refreshed. ♪ nothing performs like a tempur-pedic, and our july 4th event is the perfect time to buy one. save up to $5

chris: paul manafort who was campaign manager? >> exactly. all these things that go back.page, all these people. and then he has to come and i think present the president with a list of questions that only the president can answer. and the president should answer truthfully under oath to those questions. chris: well, what about the suggestion because she said that the special counsel should go ahead. but what about ms. mcdaniel's suggestion that congress should wrap it up? >> well, no. we have a separate obligation. intelligence committee. bipartisan basis. what's remarkable this is truly bipartisan. we are conducting investigation because i think one thing that the president continues to diminish, which i think is unfortunate, is the fact that the russian government, at the highest level, deliberately interfered with our election in 2016. >> and according to all off you are experts in the intelligence community they are coming back with more force in 18 and 20. we have to as a legislative matter, find out what they did, why they did it, how we can prevent it. do we need s

manafort was somewhat related, flynn was related to that. what were they all doing?> i think it's totally -- >> you're with vladimir putin last night with megyn saying there's nothing to it, nonsense. you agree with putin? >> i haven't seen anything and it will be interesting to see if anyone comes out with anything. >> comey thinks there's something and he'll be testifying thursday. brennan thinks there's something there. all our intelligence agencies believe the russians messed with us, meddled in our election, and you don't agree with that? >> i hope we find out about the wire tapping that was done against me. >> keep fighting your fight. help me out a little here. thank you, carter page. >> thanks. >>> coming up, president trump's unmored reaction to the terror attack in london. he used the horror over there this weekend to take a shot at the mayor of london and to make the argument for his original muslim ban again which even his allies say could hurt his case in court. that's ahead. >>> plus we're three days away from one of the most anticipated congressional h