yet, you had time to process manafort's application -- >> i didn't process manafort's application. >> your department did, sir. apparently, not these vulnerable americans living at grave risk. in fact, in a series of rulings in april and may, in ohio district court order that your department quote act with urgency and to quote move inmates out due to continued risk of harp to prisoners and to government staff. and sir, your department challenged that court order, did it not? >> i'm not familiar with that. >> well you-all did. you did not help move these inmates out as ordered. in fact, you tried to block the district courts order. however, the supreme court on may 26th rejected your department's request. sir, nine prisoners had died and it's been two months since the supreme court's order. do you even know today how many of those prisoners have been released or how many more have died? >> i don't. we had -- >> sir -- >> we started out with 170,000 prisoners so we've lost -- >> i just need you to try to explain to me and to america how is it that the former campaign manager, the presid

it was about both manafort and stone. the original sin of the trump presidency, the russian intervention, and i would say trump's complicity in it, not collusion, but complicity, is still with us today. and we still don't even understand everything that happened in 2016 and all the reasons that trump still won't criticize putin, even when he's putting a bounty on americans in afghanistan. >> so what can you prove the reason might be for trump's reticence? >> i think it's mind blowing in a way, because any other politician, just if you want to get elected, will at least pay lip service to protecting american troops overseas. whether they cared or not. and he won't even do that. we see in john bolton's book that part of it that was not covered extensively when it came out a couple of weeks ago, that he tried to get trump to challenge putin on intervention in u.s. elections in 2016 and make sure they're not going to do it again in 2020, even though the fbi says they are up to it again, and trump refused to do this. bolton ga

despite releasing manafort your lawyers continued to argue against a release of prisoners. in april vulnerable prisoners who suffer from serious at-risk health conditions like chronic asthma, heart disease, and kidney disease filed a lawsuit for early release in ohio. these prisoners were being quote overcrowded in like cattle because prisoners were not able to social distance, 550 prisoners sought release yet your own department processed only seven applications and denied them all, yet you had time to process manafort's application darns >> i didn't process manafort's application. >> your department did, sir, but apparently not these vulnerable americans living at great risk, in fact, in a series of early in april and may an ohio district court ordered that your department quote act with urgency, end of quote, move inmates out due to continued risk of harm to prisoners and to government staff. and sir, your department challenged that court order, did it not? >> i'm not familiar with that. >> well, you all did, you did not help move these inmates out as ordered, in fact yo

yet, you had time to process manafort's application. >> i didn't process manafort's application. >> but your department did. but apparently not the vulnerable americans living at grave risk. in fact in a series of rulings in april and may, an ohio district court ordered that your department, quote, act with urgency and to, quote, move inmates out due to continued risk of harm to prisoners and to government staff. and, sir, your department challenged that court order, did it not? >> i'm not familiar with that. >> well y'all did. you about not help move the inmates out as ordered. in fact, you tried to block the district court's order. however the supreme court on may 26th rejected your department's request. sir, nine prisoners have died and it's been two months since the supreme court's order. do you even know today how many of those prisoners have been released or how many more have died? >> no, i don't. we had a hundred -- started out this with 170,000 prisoners so we've lost -- >> i just need you to try to explain to me and to america how is it that the former campaign manager of the

paul manafort refused to roll on the president. he was convicted by a jury of his peers, and he has been granted release by the bureau of prison ns because of coronavirus. michael flynn pleaded guilty and the department of justice withdrew the conviction. they're now tied up in appeals over whether they could even do that, whether it is proper what they did. but michael flynn is not going to prison. michael flynn is supposed to report next week. and michael cohen, the one who did roll on the president, he is released from prison, is now back in there. and jeffrey berman who oversaw the investigation into trump ink and michael cohen, that guy got fired by the president. like, you know, there is not -- it is not too hard to connect the dots here. >> no, it's not very hard to connect the dots. and you could assume that at some point in november that manafort is pardoned as well, and you can assume that flynn will be on the campaign trail. there is nothing but outrage and corruption going on at the department of justice, and it's -- it

by your own department's, manafort did not meet that criteria.he start of this pandemic, we have are -- we have repeatedly urged you to use authority to protect vulnerable populations in prisons. instead, you release the president's former campaign manager. do you know how many federal inmates have tested positive for covid-19 as of today? mr. barr: i have that number. >> quickly. a slide. 10,000 inmates have tested positive and over 1000 staff have tested positive. you know how many have died? mr. barr: almost 100 i think. >> that is right. 99 inmates have died. yet only 5% have been released under your guidelines. mr. barr: 7000 -- >> you said you were taking "every measure we can to protect federal inmates." the numbers tell a different story, as do your actions. despite releasing manafort, your lawyers continue to argue against the release of prisoners. in april, vulnerable prisoners who suffer from serious health conditions like chronic asthma, heart disease and kidney disease filed a lawsuit for early release in ohio. these prisoners were b

my question to you is we have seen this now with papadopoulos, we have seen it withju paul manafort.w it with general flynn. we have seen it with you. i'll be honest, roger. i believe in our constitution. i believe in our rule of law. i think i read a lot about equal justice and applications of our laws. i don't see this in any of these cases. i see a travesty of injustice. you have been a part of it. i don'tstof know. i'm losing faith in the system, roger.r. >> well, you have a good reason to. you examine the d.c. circuit court of appeals where i had to file a last-minute emergency appeal of judge jackson's room sending you toi jail. she ignored all the legal precedents in that. she ignored my health conditions. she ignored the conditions at the prison at that time, and she ignored the current policies of doj and the bop. you would've thought it wouldn't been reversed in the appeals court the they ruled for herd 3-0. i'm afraid this is a fixed system. above all, though, i guess i would have to say the most important thing here is the courageous and as of the president's act. i know

and that trump instructed manafort to stay in touch with stone. he was their inside line to the material that the russian government had stolen to help him in the campaign. the way they were going to help him in the campaign, with that information, was to release it, publicly, in ways that were designed to cause maximum damage to the clinton campaign and maximum benefit to the trump campaign. roger stone was their inside line on those forthcoming dumps of information. which increased the ability of the campaign to leverage those information dumps. to hype them. to tell people they were coming. and to make the most of them, once they arrived. he was their force multiplier for what russia did to help put donald trump in the white house. notably, three of the trump associates who were all involved in the roger stone intermediary gig, were later sentenced to prison time. rick gates, michael cohen, paul manafort, all got sentenced to prison. tonight, actually only michael cohen is physically in prison. he was sent back yesterday. we'll have more on tha

rick gates, michael cohen, paul manafort all got sentenced to prison. tonight actually only michael cohen is physically in prison. he was sent back yesterday. we'll have more on that later in the show tonight. but consider what this prosecutor, aaron zelinsky, said about the president's own recounting of the events that summer, right? the same president who just this week is crowing about how solid his mind is and how he aced a test that's designed to detect dementia. aaron zelinsky telling congress, quote, in his written answers to the special counsel's office, president trump denied remembering anything about his conversations with roger stone during the summer of 2016. he denied being aware that roger stone had discussed wikileaks with anyone associated with the campaign. one week after submitting his written answers, president trump criticized flipping witnesses and stated that stone was very brave in indicating he wouldn't cooperate with prosecutors. the special counsel's report stated that the president's statements complimenting roger stone suppo

paul manafort's case the president hasn't yet do you think -- he'll intervene in the manafort case?e're looking at a desperate president. one of the interesting things the president does when he's in trouble is he does distract us. distracting us from coronavirus pandemic may not be a bad thing in his mind by how he uses the power of the presidency to do controversial things. and, you know, this is a controversial thing. i think your point about manafort in particular is very interesting. because remember that in the mueller report, robert mueller explicitly points to donald trump publically dangling a pardon before manafort, suggesting that he would pardon him if necessary, and considered it one of the possible obstructions of justice that donald trump should be answerable to congress to. now, here's the thing. donald trump didn't do it. and we know that paul manafort got a healthy sentence, and we know that paul manafort was certainly having conversations with the white house as his trial was pending and that he was quote -- i would call loyal to the president and clearly had a lo

is it safe to send manafort back to prison? >> is it safe to send manafort back to prison? donald trump's former campaign chairman paul manafort was released from prison because of the threat of coronavirus. donald trump issued a tweet today saying that of course american schools can reopen because schools have reopened in germany, denmark, norway and sweden, countries whose example donald trump doesn't usually follow. yesterday the united states reported a record high of 54,130 new cases of coronavirus. denmark had 10. norway had 11. sweden had 283. germany had 397. and as of tonight, the united states has reported a new record high of 58,238 cases. that means that as of tonight there have been 3,058,250 confirmed cases of coronavirus in this country and that as of tonight this country has suffered 132,873 deaths from coronavirus. willy garcia knows more about public schools than anyone named trump ever has or ever will. >> we see what happens when they let bars open prematurely and you saw those young adults in there in that nice life little bar and they went home and the

he's got manafort out of prison. manafort's now at home. flynn, he's asked the judge to drop the case, and there's going to be a legal battle over that. but essentially what president trump is doing is he's doing everything he can possibly do to make sure that anyone with any knowledge about this russian interference is going to keep silent, keep their mouths shut, and not point the finger at donald trump. >> john, bill barr has shown us he is willing to do a lot for this president, a lot that hurts his own reputation and credibility. but bill barr advised against this. does that tell you anything? >> just that he was speaking or writing at that particular moment. i think it was a little bit like in the most overused cliches, like being shocked there's gambling going on in the casino from "casablanca." president trump has never taken advice he didn't want to take, or certainly very rarely. so i think there are quickly two things that are so fascinating about this moment. one is we have to remember what this is about. and nick alluded to it.

there is a pattern, a through-line with donald trump where you have paul manafort out of jail, michael of jail, or afforded jail, all thanks to donald trump and he's going back to work for a campaign which is going to, or already impeached president who tried to enlist the aid of a foreign government to be re-elected there are some parallels here and a pattern. >> you know, and howard, last night, hillary clinton implied that donald trump, that this is part of the cover-up, right, that there were crimes committed and the reason this commutation happened was to cover up for those crimes you interviewed rong stone very recently i'll read a little bit of this and stone says to you "i had 29 or 30 conversations with trump during the campaign period he knows i was under enormous pressure to turn on him. i would have eased my situation considerably it would have eased my situation considerably, but i didn't they wanted me to play judas i refused. what do you know about what roger stone did or didn't do >> well, what i know is that he told me that he had during the course of the campaign year

. —— paul manafort, roger stone.ere this isa approve this theory but there this is a paul manafort, michael flynn, rajasthan should not be in jail because the basis of the evidence that used to go after the trump administration and trom campaign was flawed to begin with. i don't agree if you do something wrong, you should be... eric bolling of america this week. ceremonies have been taking place in the bosnian town of srebrenica to mark 25 years since the massacre of 8,000 muslim men and boys by bosnian serb forces. nine recently—identified victims have been buried during a ceremony at potochari cemetery. the incident was the worst act of mass killing in europe since the end of the second world war. our special correspondent allan little reports. this is notjust a day of commemoration. it is also a funeral. the bodies are still emerging from the killing fields where many have laid undiscovered for a quarter of a century. today, i am burying my father. the oldest among these victims here. it took 25 years until we fou

roger stone, papadopoulos, manafort, what they did to that man, what they did to that man. putting him in solitary confinement. al capone, the great gangster, the ultimate gangster was never in solitary confinement. you know, what they did to him was just incredible. you know, look, it's a very sad thing. here's a group, we have them cold, they lied, they leaked, they did everything. we have them already. they could get more evidence, tt doesn't matter. they have them cold. i hope that they act. i hope that lindsey graham does something with the judiciary committee. we have all the evidence they need. now, maybe they're getting new stuff. i let them handle that. but the judiciaryng committee should act, and it's also -- people don't like to say it president obama. he knew everything. he was probably in charge of it or was in charge of it. joe biden, i don't know if he knows where he is, but he was there. he knew everything. >> sean: well, he lied, joe biden lied to george stephanopoulos and he knew nothing, but the notes to peter strzok were clear about the january 5th meet

>> well, i mean, manafort had some extenuating circumstances, like bad news stories saying that he got a boatload of money from russian oligarchs. i believe that hit in august -- >> i believe it was august 18th or something like that. >> put kellyanne conway there. the question sort of it, kellyanne conway hasn't really taken an active role in the campaign. i feel like she's put this very concise lane for herself in the white house where she goes to the cameras if she wants to. the problem is that there is just nobody that the public can trust, and so you take that away and then donald trump gives a rambling rose garden speech because apparently he can't do campaign rallies anymore. it's just where can you look to in washington for guidance? >> mm-hmm. >> people really need guidance. this isn't just some who do you like better? who would you rather have a beer with? it's i've been in my house for months. you know, my kids are asking me, are we going to have christmas this year? i mean, that's happening. and, you know, a lot of people are viewing this election not as an election, but a

we've seen other people, predawn raids, tactical gear, and a manafort, roger stone, cnn cameras, but michael horowitz report talked about the same issues and referrals made talking about comey and mccabe and others and now we have a long laundry list of all these guys making a lot of money selling books and being c and an an ms dnc contributors. when do we get the door report because if we are going to have an election in 2020, don't we have to get to the bottom of what happened in 2016? >> because the dream investigation is an federal investigation, there's not much. covid did slow down the progress to some extent because the courts, as you know, sean, were all but closed or their proceedings are sniffing we delayed it during covid. i can tell you this, john durham and his team are working chilling diligently. as a duly elected president of the united states than attorney general barr. he knows as president and family and everyone affected deserves and needs resolution. he knows the republic needs resolution and he certainly believes justice itself deserves resolution. so we will se

but i expect that he'll use his pardon and commutation power on behalf of paul manafort.on behalf of michael flynn, if necessary. if that case moves forward, even though all of them have either been convicted or have pled guilty. to crimes related to the mueller investigation. so, you know, i think he sees -- he sees everything, including the pardon power as a political tool to be used on his own behalf and on behalf of his ally. >> does this move the needle? you heard the explanation that the president offered this morning to lay off on both obama and biden previous conduct, the mueller probe. they sort of preconditioned the gop fox base for that. aren't the people who are upset about this news already upset about the president? >> absolutely. i think those who are disinclined to vote for trump will find this one more reason not to vote for trump. and the trump base will buy his explanation for what he did. his problem is that the base isn't large enough to win. and everything he's doing lately seems to be almost designed to shrink himself to his irreducible core base. s

does he do the same in the coming weeks or months with paul manafort?> nia, ellie, thank you very much. we'll continue to follow this story. >>> meanwhile, tonight arizona is one of the epi centers for the coronavirus pandemic here in the united states. as the number of new cases continues to shoot up, hospitals there are getting overwhelmed. so what can be done to turn the tide? u.s. congressman rubin gaiellego, live we'll discuss right after this. with 2 unlimited lines for less than $30 each. call 1-800-t-mobile or go to t-mobile.com/55. we all know customers can save big. [ cellphone chimes ] um, so, we're talking 24/7 protection. as it -- [ cellphone chimes ] [ clears throat ] mara, hello. [ cellphone clicking ] yeah? we can see you on your phone. oh, my bad. you can continue. [ clicking continues ] [ cellphone chimes ] i think she's still on the phone. [ cellphone chimes ] if you have a garden you know, weeds are low down little scoundrels. draw the line with roundup. the sure shot wand extends with a protective shield to target weeds precisely an

i think the person to keep your eye on now is paul manafort, the president's former campaign chairmantiple felonies, who pleaded guilty to multiple felonies. but the president has praised him as well. so, i think it's entirely possible that the president is going to either pardon or commute the sentence of paul manafort, trying to wipe out entirely the legal legacy of the mueller investigation. he has that authority under the constitution. but the abbuse of power it woul represent would really be profound. >> we'll see if that happens. thank you. david axelrod, thanks to you as well. there's much more coming up in our special "situation room" even as coronavirus cases are spreading, the virus is spreading through latin america and the caribbean, four countries in the region are now among the top ten most infected in the world. one country has found a way to buck the trend. stay with us. you're in "the situation room." weeds are low down little scoundrels. draw the line with roundup. the sure shot wand extends with a protective shield to target weeds precisely and kill them right down

by your own department's, manafort did not meet that criteria.he start of this pandemic, we have are -- we have repeatedly urged you to use authority to protect vulnerable populations in prisons. instead, you release the president's former campaign manager. do you know how many federal inmates have tested positive for covid-19 as of today? mr. barr: i have that number. >> quickly. a slide. 10,000 inmates have tested positive and over 1000 staff have tested positive. you know how many have died? mr. barr: almost 100 i think. >> that is right. 99 inmates have died. yet only 5% have been released under your guidelines. mr. barr: 7000 -- >> you said you were taking "every measure we can to protect federal inmates." the numbers tell a different story, as do your actions. despite releasing manafort, your lawyers continue to argue against the release of prisoners. in april, vulnerable prisoners who suffer from serious health conditions like chronic asthma, heart disease and kidney disease filed a lawsuit for early release in ohio. these prisoners were b

that includes roger stone, former national security adviser michael flynn, and paul manafort, who ise in prison. this is very much a sign of donald trump essentially basically looking to erase the memory if you like of that whole mueller investigation. is the president's power to commute absolute? well it is. it is in the sense that he can now effectively clear the record insofar as roger stone, he won't be going to prison. this president has indicated he is quite happy to commute sentences, he did so with the former illinois governor earlier in the year, ditto the former new york police chief, so president trump is not a man who is afraid to use those powers, and he has done so again with his longtime friend roger stone here. david willis, there. leading democrats have condemned the white house's announcement. senator elizabeth warren said it showed donald trump was the most corrupt president in history. the chair of the house intelligence committee, congressman adam schiff, said there were now two americanjustice systems — one for mr trump's criminal friends and one for everyone el

as roger stone, former national security adviser michael flynn, and trump campaign manager paul manafortntly serving time in prison. so this very much a sign of donald trump essentially, basically, looking to erase the memory, if you like, of that whole mueller investigation. is the president's power to commute absolute? absolutely it is in the sense that he can now effectively clear the record as far as roger stone, he won't be going to prison. and, indeed, this president has proved he is quite keen to commute sentences — he did so with the former illinois governor rod blagojevich earlier in the year, ditto the former new york police chief bernard kerik, so president trump is not a man who is afraid to use those powers, and he has done so again with his longtime friend roger stone, here. david willis, there. and staying with the us, which is seeing a record number of new coronavirus cases this week, with more than 63,000 infections recorded on thursday alone. this comes two months after some states began reopening their economies, without having met the federal guidelines on how to do s

i mean, everything about this is just -- i mean, set aside paul manafort, roger stone. you're absolutely right, the president sends those kinds of messages to those people, and we should judge that accordingly. but i mean, we are talking about despicable crimes with, you know, victims who faced years of trauma and damage because of these actions. and you know, for the president to -- i mean, he clearly has familiarity with the situation. he takes the question, seems to engage with it like he's the person that's in those photographs that we were just showing, you know, from years ago in new york or palm beach or wherever they were taken, and he just sort of throws prince andrew in there on top of it. not even a name that was previously mentioned. does he want to be part of that situation? i mean, i have so many questions. and i think to your point, joe, for the victims of this, it had to be really, really hard to watch. >> well, and kasie, you raise an incredible point here, because i let it sit a little bit after we played that because we have got to stop allowing this

there's a much better case for pardoning flynn and pardoning stone in almost no case for pardoning manafort who was convicted of money laundering and tax evasion. i don't know if this is the best use of the pardon power. i think donald trump realizes that because he to contextually pardon stone, he commuted his sentence which means stone is still a felon, still convicted by a jury. his sentences been shortened. shannon: thank you for joining us, wish we had time to talk about the flynn case but thank you. we need to move on with other breaking news. gavin newsom as many as 8000 prisoners by the end of august at several facilities in the golden state. nationwide johns hopkins university says thursday's case count of 63,000 is a new record. >> reporter: with 11,433 new cases florida reported second highest 1-day increase and an 11-year-old with numerous underlying conditions is among the 93 newly confirmed deaths. despite the uptick in florida cases governor ron desantis reiterated his commitment to reopen schools in august. >> the cost of not giving kids an option to be able to have in-perso

but this was the judge that gave i believe solitary confinement to paul manafort. al capone didn't have solitary confinement. so these are things that happen, and if you look at president bush, president clinton, president obama, take a look at what they did. frankly, it's very unfair. roger stone was treated very unfairly in my opinion, and so were many others on this side. you have the other ones who are admitted to lying -- they admit it's a before congress. they leaked classified information. which is something you just can't do, and what are they doing? so we will see what happens. but we are getting rave reviews for what i did. >> hold the convention in jacksonville -- >> president trump: we are going to do something that will be great. we will do it very well. we had some numbers a little while ago that are great. the suppression polls that we had. sony polls. fake news, sony polls. we are doing well in georgia. we are doing well in texas. i read that we are one point up in texas. or not one point. many points. i saved the oil industry. i created it, became

he's been dangling pardons for roger flynn and paul manafort. he has been calling it a witchhunt. it wasn't a full pardon, as the report mentioned. but they started to convince trump that he needed to do this. those in stone's intercircle because this was an attack on trump himself. and trump is all about himself. but trump has really focused on pardoning individuals that wouldn't really be popular to pardon in the american public. it's a who's who of white collar criminals, politicians, law enforcement, that have gone above the call of duty. we see rod blagojevich was pardoned. he was a corrupt democratic politician. joe arpaio, the controversial law enforcement from arizona. you had mike milken, white house said scooter libby. these are people that wouldn't be popular to pardon. it demonstrates, if you are close to trump, if you are loyal to him and you're a powerful person, he will see to it that you are poardoned and absolved from your crimes. >> and roger stone, the self-proclaimed dirty trickster. his closest ally says he will see if the president is a second term, if he is

has also happened numerous notedsince 2018 when he pardoning his former campaign chairman, paul manafort are in the government shutdown, during the summer months of 2019, as he took on the squat, and then later in the fall as impeachment became a reality. trump weathered each storm and bounce back a strong or stronger than he previously been. what is different about this time? nott: the president has stepped back. what typifies some of these times is a moment of some contrition, like after access where he, or a period is not the person making news with his attacks. the other times or more normal politics. what we are looking at now is two national crises and an thetity crises, and president has not provided the sort of decisive leadership and often uses those as examples or platforms of which to launch into a petulance and grievance-based assault on the media. that is not what americans wanted when he stops doing that, i will -- i think he will start to see his numbers come back. there is a story that a number of senior aides and cabinet members of the george w. bush administration are p

it was june of 2016 when trump replaced corey lewandowski with his new campaign manager, paul manafort. let's talk about the attacks on joe biden i addressed a little earlier. do you think this approach is going to back fifire? >> the trump campaign's strategy is to throw everything at the wall and see if anything sticks. not going to help in attacking joe biden. we know trump himself is no stranger, you know, to receiving allegations that he is not mentally fit for office, and so it could potentially open the door for biden's camps and other democratic operatives to pull up old footage, to pull up trump's own comment to note that the president himself may not be fit for office. politically, it may not be seen as the best move. these attacks are coming amid a recent polling showing bind soaring over trum. we saw a poll from quinnipiac university that shows trump's economic approval rating has cratered 15 points in just one month. that's something because trump has said, i am the guy to get the economy on back t guy you can trust. according to this polling, voters don't see it that way.

at issue, the question is, will he do something for manafort and flynn same way he did for roger stoneen to what the president said about stone yesterday. >> he was treated very unfairly. just like general flynn is treated understand fairly. just like papadopoulos was treated unfairly. they've all been treated unfairly, and what i did -- what i did, i will tell you this. people are extremely happy, because in this country they want justice and roger stone was not treated properly. >> april, in terms of the impact of this move on the election, do you think it will hurt trump with his base, with republicans or just not matter? >> well, depending upon what side the spectrum you sit, his base loves this irreverent breaking of the rule of law and changing the traditional dynamic of what a president looks like and what a president should be. when it comes to majority of america, they believe that this president is not fit to serve, the poll numbers are showing it, and it will definitely -- it's all translating in polls now. if the election were to happen now, and we see joe biden would win f

for context, they let paul manafort out early after felony convictions because he was at risk for covidlk us through. our understanding of the story, these children haven't been convicted of anything. >> no. they're here to seek asylum. the international right to seek asylum. and this is what, with the family separation crisis, all the way to this day, and why their lawyers are saying arguably, it is worse right now. their health is at risk and they are being held, not because they're criminals but because the trump administration has decided not to release them despite the orders of a federal judge. >> now, jacob, you in your work with us, sometimes do you the questioning and the interviewing. isn't that right? >> yeah. >> you know the thing where somebody spends two years writing a book and then we say tell us about it in two minutes. i want to give you a chance to tell viewers about your important book. i will flag one news worthy item that has gotten attention. you've obtained these documents that show trump aide steven miller going after another official. tell us about what you're

that clip earlier of the way the president used to talk about folks like mike the cohen and paul manafort when they got caught up in the criminal investigations of his presidency, and they looked like they were in trouble. it was sort of this kiss of death line when trump would come out in a similar fashion and say, you know, diminish his relationship with him. in this case, it looks like that same kind of presidential distancing, but in this time, it's to show that he is healthy and that there is no risk to him. and obviously that would be the probably ultimate embarrassment for the president to get sick amid all of this when he has taken the approach he has, when he's refused for so long to put a mask on, that, getting the virus, would be pretty damning. so it sort of makes sense if you understand the way the president tries to put distance between himself and things he does not like for him to make a remark like that. >> kim, we've talked about how it's become a running matter with members of the public particularly on social media trying to keep us in the news media to account for the

we've got documents showing, for instance, he worked with the ap to target manafort, he had the ap colludingdepartment. he was a fan of hillary clinton. he was supporting sally yates as she was trying to upend the rule of law by subverting the president's travel ban. outrageous that he's still taken seriously in this issue. lou: well, it's just, it's just breathtaking to see what the left-wing media does with this, recycle it and take it to the barricades and then fire off broadsides at the, at the public. amazing. tom fitton, thank you for being here, as always. we appreciate it. judicial watch. >>> up next, gavin newsom shuts down much of california again because of the china virus. dr. marc siegel, former white house physician ronny jackson, join us here next. stay with us, we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ businesses are starting to bounce back. but what if you could do better than that? like adapt. discover. deliver. in new ways. to new customers. what if you could come back stronger? faster. better. at comcast business, we want to help you not just bounce back. but bounce forward. that's why we

campaign chairman paul manafort is a felon. michael flynn, a felon. is a felon and just the latest beneficiary of the presidential gift to loyalists. a commutation of his 40-month sentence. even though one of the prosecutors testified they had pressured to go easy on stone because of the relationship with president. he tampered with witnesses, he was the campaign's primary conduit to wikileaks and had hoped to be rewarded for not rolling over on trump. not even nixon rewarded the henchman this way. but from sheriff arpaio, to a navy s.e.a.l. court-martialed and to dinesh souza. only one is still actually in prison. that would be michael cohen. what makes him different? he spoke out against trump and now after a furlough is back in prison. why? some thing it was this photo of him eating outdoors violating the house arrest but that's not it. according to his lawyers it's to stop him from publishing a tell-all book about trump before the election. he was suddenly sent back to prison after refusing to sign a document about no contact with the media. you m

in 2016, president trump had a bunch of campaign managers, paul manafort, kellyanne con way. a lot of people are saying it doesn't matter all that much who the campaign manager is. ray: political writers love to talk about inside campaign intrigue, especially now when there's not much campaigning going on. neither major party nominee can really get out there and campaign and sketch out their platform. so it's similar of to criminologists watching the mayday parade in moscow and seeing who was standing where. campaigns hire and fire people, they promote and demote of people. howard: particularly in this campaign, donald trump ultimately is his own campaign manager. let me get a break. when we come back, the new york times in turmoil as the top editor resigns, blasts the liberal colleagues for bullying her. people used to care. heck, they'd come all the way out here just for a blurry photo of me. oh, that's a good one. wait, what's that? that's just the low-battery warning. oh, alright. now it's all, "check out my rv," and, "let's go four-wheeling." maybe there's a little part

. >> other question in all this, of course, are manafort and general flynn next? here we are a friday night in july with the president attending a $10 million fund-raiser at the florida home of a beef jerky ceo. a perfect time for a major news story to drop, and sure enough on this friday night, the white house announced the president is commuting the prison sentence of his decades-long friend roger stone. stone was set to report to prison, serve 3 1/2 year sentence just a few days from now. as frank figliuzzi reminded us, convicted in february of lying to congress to cover for the president during the mueller investigation. in a rambling, multiple-page statement tonight, the white house defended the decision saying in part, roger stone is a victim of the russia hoax that the left and its allies in the media perpetuated for years in an attempt to undermine the trump presidency. roger stone has already suffered greatly. he was treated very unfairly as were many others in this case. roger stone is now a free man. that's a statement out of the white house tonight. th

they were referrals for lying, crimes that put paul manafort in stone and michael cohen in jail. that's going to publish in 2019. how they've profited from their lies, great piece, foxnews.com and fox news contributor dan bongino. first thing i got up this morning, i read this, i said to text you, show you some of the next thing is i said please get me all the information on all the profits that these deep state actors are going to make. >> it's pretty despicable that these disgraced, corrupt, lying people are profiting financially from their pathology of lies. peter strzok is the latest, his book is perversely ironic that i can't think of a more compromised person in america, a guy carrying on an extramarital affair and trading stunningly hostile text messages about the very man he is investigating. andrew mccabe, whose dishonesty was epic fired for lying and not once, but four times. he penned a book called threat. he can't think of a guy who was more of a threat to the fbi than andrew mccabe. and of course, you've got the ever vain glory egocentric james comey who penned a boo

there's also michael flynn and paul manafort in the sense that all of these cases could be subject toons or clemency. what do you think this does to the justice department to have this kind of activity going on by the president and in some cases by the department itself? >> well, it's incredibly corrosive to the men and women in the department of justice to sit back and watch legitimate, righteous investigations and prosecutions to be constantly debased by the president. it's got to make them wonder about the very, the you been stands and foundations of the rule of law they're trying to enforce. it's no secret why the president is frustrated with the conviction of stone and the guilty plea of flynn and the incredibly complicated status of that matter. the president doesn't like the fact that these investigations exposed his eventual reliance on russian assistance to get elected. russians weighed in, in our political system in 2016 in a way that i think everybody understands now and they did so for the benefit of president trump. that's a narrative that he will spend the rest of his li

but this was a judge that gave, i believe, solitary confinement to paul manafort. al capone didn't have solitary confinement. these are things that happened. and if you look at president bush, president clinton, president obama, take a look at what they did, frankly it is a very unfair -- roger stone was treated unfairly in my opinion and so were many others on this side. in the meantime, you have the other ones who are admitted lying before -- they admitted they lied before congress. they leaked. they leaked classified information. which is something you just can't do. and what are they doing? so we'll see what happens. no, we're getting rave reviews for what i did. >> are you going to hold the convention in jacksonville with all of this virus spread -- >> we're going to see it built up a little bit but we're going to do something that will be great. we think we're doing well. we have some poll numbers that are great. it is the same story. it is suppression polls that we had in 2016, phony polls, fake news, phony polls, same thing. and we're doing very well. we're

while trump's personal lawyer is back in custody, like manafort, he was released early because of covidnd was sent back to jail, and now, cohen said there's an illegal retaliation by trump to silence him before the election. think of that. right now, donald trump's own former lawyer is the one suing donald trump cohen alleging the trump administration is keeping him in jail as a pay back for his plans to relisa scathing up coming book the lawsuit claims that barr is imprisoning cohen in retaliation for drafting a book against trump and it will be fought out in court and it was true that cohen was caught out to dinner with his wife and another couple that violated his confinement agreement and his lawyer is arguing it doesn't but cohen is back in front of a judge. the probation officers asked him to agree to terms that he at first basically would not accept it was a probation form that would restrict him speaking out or having contact with the media, no engagement of any kind, including books. cohen advisers saying when he backed down he was taken in to custody and they said, it's out of