paolo: -- manchester united wouldt real madrid, you have 350 million europeans watching tv. 350st nothing else attracts million people in front of a tv. legende: do you have a footballer? one that you would hire or just play football with? paolo: i always love players becausesi, probably when i played football myself, these kind of small guys never let me see the ball. messi, of course, and maradona. from football to energy. how the oil industry has changed, and what is next, with paolo scaroni, who led some of the biggest italian energy companies. >> the energy industry has undergone huge changes across the decades as government and business increasingly turn green in the face of climate change. how are companies managing the change, and what will the next decade look like? paolo scaroni was the chief executive of an italian energy giant -- created a separate wind energy for the company. francine: how did you get into the energy industry? livingi was a tech guy in the u, and one day, through the italian ambassador in london, i had been confronted by berlusconi, who at the time, for the f