you just interviewed senator manchin.y people being more weary, but you have that deficit, and people are saying what about us back home. >> david gergen, let me bring you in. do you agree this could be a seismic shift or is it more about money and once we get out of the financial situation in the country, we'll go back to the way the parties were before? >> i worry that it's a shift. in the short term, it is very much driven by money and war weariness, but the republican party as you well know, joe, was for a long time the isolationist party in the country, did not want to go into world war ii, held back on that, really wanted to hold back after some of the war, then it became the internationalist party, and really had kept that banner up for a decade after decade, especially after vietnam, and it is i think very concerning. there was a part of that party that was also way hawkish, and i think more than the neocon, but the party has been internationalist party. it is the recent traditions, i think it will be a loss for t

joe manchin is a fine fellow. he's never been to afghanistan. i've been there many times. >> he says he's been there twice. >> i take that back. >> he was there in 2006 and 2011. >> let me tell you, i've been there a lot. i have seen with my own eyes how things have gotten better and i can tell you that if we don't keep the momentum, the fight is in the south. problems in the east. i worry that this accelerated drawdown that general petraeus did not recommend may have consequences of undermining a very successful strategy. i hope i'm wrong. i hope the president is right. >> white house administration officials say that within the range of what general petraeus was okay with, the president came down within that range. although i suspect that he came down a lot closer to what biden wanted as opposed to what general petraeus wanted. i think you're right on that. they will say that petraeus is on board. we'll hear from him. you'll have a chance to hear his testimony because he's going to be the next cia director. >> lindsey graham doesn't enjoy war.

joe manchin took the opportunity to call for an end to the counter-insurgency mission in afghanistan. >> we can no longer afford to rebuild afghanistan and america. we must choose, and i choose america. >> pelley: which brought an unusually personal response from republican arizona senator john mccain. >> i view the senator from west virginia's remarks as at least uninformed about history and strategy. >> pelley: we sat down with both men today. first, senator mccain. >> it's a decision which i don't think is in comport... comports with the recommendations of our military leadership, but more importantly, the realities. we need this fighting season and the next fighting season. we have enjoyed great success, and i might add, at great sacrifice. as you know, well over 1,000 young americans have already given their lives, and i would hate to see us take an unnecessary risk by withdrawing too early. >> pelley: the urgent question now seems to be: have times changed? after ten years, the country is hurting. unemployment is high. how can we justify spending about $100 billion a year in afg

commissioner miguel: just a tag on to what commissioner sugaya manchin, i mentioned last week seeing the model of salesforce's 14-acre campus proposal. not only is it completely open, it brings 16th street all the way into it, but unlike google and many of the others, there is no in-house food service. the cafeteria, no restaurant, no nothing. they are bringing in private enterprises who will be given or lead, probably, spaces along the plaza and everything in order to activate and service the general public as well. it is the first major firm of that kind that is breaking away from keeping everything in house. i thought that was fantastic. >> although we're not allowed to discuss this particular subject, i want to say the and there a couple of architects who can deliver a building out of the unusual -- out of the usual, and i think that will be good for mission bay because the building type has become a little bit subdued and boring. commissioner olague: ok. that is coming up on the agenda at some point. but not today. >> with that, commissioners, thank you. you can move forward to

senator manchin is right. our president, barack obama, who i support, has flown more drone missions over pakistan and eastern afghanistan and has killed more terrorists and that's the way we need to handle this. we need that money home. we need that money here. host: terry, when do you make that decision that we are not going in with ground troops, but we will go in with drawn attacks and try to come in this case, get rid of al-qaeda, wherever they may be? when do you make that decision and how? caller: we have to rely on the cia and our intelligence around the world. when you determine a hot spot, you hit. host: you trust the cia implicitly? caller: yes, i do. that's what people get paid for. i trust them. let them do their thing. i want the money home to create jobs and provide health insurance for americans. if you do not have good health, you do not have anything. we need to take care of americans. host: you think congress should approve those type of drone attacks or should that be a call that the command

and joining us from capitol hill, democratic senator joe manchin of west virginia.hank you for joining us. >> thanks for having me, wolf. how are you? >> good. you've caused quite a stir. let's talk about afghanistan and the troop withdrawal. the president is announcing between this year and next year 30,000 u.s. troops will leave -- that will leave about 70,000 there, many of them through the end of 2014. when do you want them home? >> wolf, i haven't set a timetable nor did i set a limit. i like to see the mission change to counterterrorism. basically, the war on terror, which was our purpose for going there in the first place, to find the terrorists who did so much harm to so many innocent americans. with that being said, if it's going to be a war on counterterrorism or a war on terror, 70,000 seems like a lot of troops that are needed for that type of a mission. >> when i spoke to senator rand paul of kentucky yesterday, he thought maybe 10,000 -- bring home 90,000 of those 100,000 troops maybe leave in the short term 10,000. is that something that is realistic

senator joe manchin from west virginia, great to talk with us and thank you for being with us. >> thank president obama speaks on afghanistan tonight from the white house. cnn will have live coverage just for you at 8:00 eastern time tonight. >> what do you want to hear from the president tonight is our question of the day. e-mail us, tweet us or find us on facebook and we will read some of your comments later on in the show. >>> jon huntsman has joined the chase for the white house. he will be campaigning in south carolina today, one day after announcing his candidacy in new jersey with the statue of liberty serving as his backdrop. >>> also, check out the press pass. it was given to the members of the media covering the start of the huntsman campaign and at the top, if you go down, an h. he doesn't have an "h" in his name. it's jon. the location of the event was listed as new york instead of new jersey and also more confusion after huntsman' announce the when reporters and staffers were mistakenly directed to a charter plane that was headed to saudi arabia instead of new hampshire! >>

it is a new and ever-evolving field, and is one that as the dean manchin, a covers a range of -- as the dean mentioned, it covers a range of topics. after 9/11, its responsibility ranged from counter-terrorism to securing our borders, meaning air, land, and see, to immigration enforcement, a very non-controversial area. [laughter] to cybersecurity, which is a fast-growing area, more and more important each day, a disaster response and recovery, a terrorist attack, a man-cause disaster, or indeed mother nature. for example, right now we are responding to the federally declared disasters in 28 different states, a remarkable and unfortunately record- setting spring for tornadoes and flooding across our country. we have a vast range of responsibilities, but the priority for the department was, it is, and will remain the counter-terrorism issues. how we prevent the united states from being the victim of an attack again? and how do we do that in a way that respects and embraces our and rights and liberties, the values that undergird our country, and that we are sworn to as attorneys and as me

listen to democrat joe manchin and john mccain. >> in which we are rebuilding police, in other words, building a country, even at the expense of our own. >> the statements by the senator of west virginia which characterize the isolationist, withdrawal, lack of history and attitude which seems to be on the rise of america. >> president obama will tell you tonight he is going to withdraw 30,000 troops from afghanistan over the next year and a half, but 70,000 will remain. the united states will continue to pour billions of dollars into afghanistan. and our troops will continue to die. more than 1,600 so far. so, the talk back today -- what do you want to hear from president obama tonight? face book.com/carolcnn. i'll read your comment later this hour. >> it's so interesting, carol, because under president bush for years they were saying, this is the forgotten war. we have to clean up the mess in afghanistan. there seems to be really a change in public opinion here saying, you know, with osama bin laden gone and some of the other progress, why is the united states still there? it's an ex

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we look at productivity trends and did a lot of interviews, as james manchin, with people in the sector to identify business models that could push job creation of or down -- as james mentioned. for each sector, we created a low, middle, and high scenario. only in the high scenario does the u.s. actually get back to 5% unemployment by 2020. on one hand, that is quite a sobering result, and it illustrates the magnitude of the challenge before the country today. on the other hand, we think this is doable. if you remember the chart james showed you about the previous decade, this is the latest job creation you saw in every decade except the last one. we can get back to an economy that even resembles what we had in the 1990's, this is achievable. that means sparking innovation and having topline, sustainable demand growth that creates jobs rather than productivity gains that are driven more by labor- replacing efficiency gains. to get behind these scenarios, i will show you a bit about our sector projections. you see these six sectors at the top are the ones that we did what we call a deep

we look at productivity trends and did a lot of interviews, as james manchin, with people in the sectoridentify business models that could push job creation of or down -- as james mentioned. for each sector, we created a low, middle, and high scenario. only in the high scenario does the u.s. actually get back to 5% unemployment by 2020. on one hand, that is quite a sobering result, and it illustrates the magnitude of the challenge before the country today. on the other hand, we think this is doable. if you remember the chart james showed you about the previous decade, this is the latest job creation you saw in every decade except the last one. we can get back to an economy that even resembles what we had in the 1990's, this is achievable. that means sparking innovation and having topline, sustainable demand growth that creates jobs rather than productivity gains that are driven more by labor- replacing efficiency gains. to get behind these scenarios, i will show you a bit about our sector projections. you see these six sectors at the top are the ones that we did what we call a deep dive

before the vote, senators john manchin and john mccain debated u.s. strategy in afghanistan. this is a half hour. >> mr. president, i rise in total support of mr. leon panetta. as the new secretary of defense. he's an outstanding public servant, he's been tremendous in every role he's held. with that being said, i rise to speak on the war in afghanistan. very soon our nation, this esteemed body, and particularly the president of the united states will address o -- address two of the greatest challenges. the first is afghanistan. the second issue is raising the debt sealing -- debt ceiling and the spending and debt. afghanistan and raising the debt ceils may seem unrelated. they with whereby in fact, directly related. they are directly related to the hard fiscal and strategic choices our nation must make to remain safe and security in the coming decades. with respect to raising the debt ceiling, the budget realities that we face are striking and frightening. mr. president, while some may choose to ignore the threat, mere words cannot give wait to the fiscal peril our nation fa

casey, coons, tester, cardin, udall of new mexico, shaheen, stabenow, murray, conrad, durbin and manchin. mr. reid: i now move to proceed to calendar number 75, s. 679, the efficiency and streamlining act. the presiding officer: the motion to proceed is now pending. mr. reid: madam president, i want to say a word before i leave the floor to -- to and about my friend, the senator from california. as i've indicated, chair of this most important committee, the environment and public works which i had the good fortune of chairing on two separate occasions. she has been tireless in bringing legislation to this floor and attempting to. she has been talking about this bill for months about how good it is, and when she sat down and reminded me of the merits of this legislation, i thought this should be a good one. a job-creating measure. we need that right now. and i have been very disappointed that we haven't been able to move forward, but it is not because of any lack of effort on her behalf. she and i came to washington together many, many years ago and served together in the house of represe

we look at productivity trends and did a lot of interviews, as james manchin, with people in the sector to identify business models that could push job creation of or down -- as james mentioned. for each sector, we created a low, middle, and high scenario. only in the high scenario does the u.s. actually get back to 5% unemployment by 2020. on one hand, that is quite a sobering result, and it illustrates the magnitude of the challenge before the country today. on the other hand, we think this is doable. if you remember the chart james showed you about the previous decade, this is the latest job creation you saw in every decade except the last one. we can get back to an economy that even resembles what we had in the 1990's, this is achievable. that means sparking innovation and having topline, sustainable demand growth that creates jobs rather than productivity gains that are driven more by labor- replacing efficiency gains. to get behind these scenarios, i will show you a bit about our sector projections. you see these six sectors at the top are the ones that we did what we call a deep

manchin: i can only report what i was seen.'ve been there twice, i was there as a governor in 2006 in afghanistan, representing the great national guard of west virginia. i went back in 2010. i did not see an improvement. i see deterioration. i did not see a country that had an infrastructure. i saw corrupt leadership. with that, i know that the senator has had much more experience than that. i can only speak from a sense of common sense and speaking to the people of west virginia and what they feel. ware very patriotic state. -- we are a very patriotic state. if ten years is not enough, how long is enough? and i think that's the question being asked. the sacrifices that are being asked by them. when we can't build the water lines and sewer lines in west virginia and fix the roads and repair the bridges, yet they hear the billions we're aide spending in a country that really doesn't want us there, i think it is time to leave. and respectfully, sir, that might be the disagreement we have. thank you. i suggest the absence of a qu