i'll ask senator joe manchin what he plans to do about it, next. >>> coming up, senator joe manchin joins me with reaction to a truly reprehensible act by a coal mining behemoth in his home state. and the most preposterous political scandal of the month, of the year, of the decade gets even weirder. i'll talk to the reporter who says she's seen the mayor of toronto smoking crack. stay with us. >>> people like my father built this. and i'm not going to stand idly by while somebody takes away what my daddy built! you know, this is nothing but a scheme. they tried to bamboozle us, they tried to rob us, they tried to steal from us. peabody has got thousand dollar an hour attorneys and they have got a dollar an hour morals. >> united states senator joe manchin is going to join me in a moment to discuss an outrageous story from his home state of west virginia. it is the story of a big coal mining company called patriot coal, which has basically schemed to cheat thousands of its workers and retired workers out of more than a billion, with a b, dollars in pensions and health care benefits. thanks

and we've got to change. >> senator joe manchin, thank you very much for joining us tonight. and this fight needs you, and we're very glad you're in it. >>it not over. >> thank you, senator, very much. >>> coming up, the senator who is leading the fight against sexual assault in the military. the epidemic in the military. new york's kirsten gillibrand will join me. and in the rewrite tonight, the family most affected by the boston marathon bombings, the richard family, in their own words. look what mommy is having. mommy's having a french fry. yes she is, yes she is. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. 100% vegetable juice, with three of your daily vegetable servings in every little bottle. would absolutely not have taken a zip line in the jungle. i'm really glad that girl stayed at home. vo: expedia helps 30 million travelers a month find what they're looking for. one traveler at a time. >>> as predicted here first and repeatedly, a new poll in massachusetts shows congressman ed markey with a significant lead over his republican opponent, suffolk university poll pu

joining me tonight, senator joe manchin, democrat from west virginia.enator, thank you for joining us. you had strong words about this yesterday. what is your reaction to the judge's ruling on this? >> again, chris, you said it perfectly. it's a travesty. that's exactly how i believe and feel very strongly about this. these are some of the salt of the earth, the best people you've ever been around in your life, the coal miners, coal miners' families, what they have sacrificed, what they have given to this country. these are people's lives we're dealing with, chris. we're not dealing with corporate liabilities, these are real peoples' lives. and they negotiated in a good faith a contract. and they negotiated with the wages, it was a give-and-take proposition, with the promise that their benefits would be there for them when they rider. and you said it best. basically, you have the parent corporation, which was peabody, spun off patriot in 2007. they spun off with very little assets and an awful lot of liabilities, designed to fail. if that can be proven,

and we've got to change. >> senator joe manchin, thank you very much for joining us tonight. and this fight needs you, and we're very glad you're in it. >>it not over. >> thank you, senator, very much. >>> coming up, the senator who is leading the fight against sexual assault in the military. the epidemic in the military. new york's kirsten gillibrand will join me. and in the rewrite tonight, the family most affected by the boston marathon bombings, the richard family, in their own words. le. i'm really glad that girl stayed at home. vo: expedia helps 30 million travelers a month find what they're looking for. one traveler at a time. expedia. find yours. we just didn't know that our plants did, too. then we started using miracle-gro liquafeed every two weeks. now our plants get the food they need while we water. so they're bigger, healthier, and more beautiful. guaranteed. when you feed your plants, everyone grows with miracle-gro. we're not in london, are we? no. why? apparently my debit card is. what? i know. don't worry, we have cancelled your old card. great. thank you. i

joe manchin said this ruling is a travesty.on't think bankruptcy laws were to shield companies from their promises and responsibilities. now, companies skillfully working their way through the bankruptcy system to avoid pension obligations happens quite a bit. this is what's particularly egregious about the situation. patriot coal was a company created by the larger peabody energy in 2007. patriot was spun off from peabody, taking a whole lot of peabody's liabilities but only a smidgeon of its assets. the move was best summarized by temple university professor bruce raider in a paper called "designed to fail, the case of patriot coal." he said patriot coal was created just to go bankrupt. at the time, peabody's cfo happily announced, hey look, our health care liability and related expenses will be reduced by 40%. in total, our legacy liabilities, expenses and cash flow will nearly be cut in half. we now know at whose expense that comes. joining me tonight, senator joe manchin, democrat from west virginia. senator, thank you for

manchin and democratic senator here to respond to that guy.o for tuesday starts right now. >> brian: if you were up and about about 8:00 o'clock eastern time last night, you heard the story. after ten years, three women thought to be dead, known to be missing. everyone left out hope they would be alive, the impossible happened. michelle knight, amanda berry, gina dejesus all alive and kept in the basement in the middle of a suburban neighborhood. >> gretchen: talking about cleveland, ohio. just outside the downtown area on the west side, unbelievably, one of those young girls, gina dejesus, was abducted just a few blocks away from where she's been living now for the last ten years and one of them may have had a child while she was there. there was a six-year-old little girl who was also found in this home last night. here is amanda berry. there is the picture of the little girl we have disguised the face. that's amanda berry in the center and her sister to the left of her. >> brian: in the hospital. >> gretchen: amanda berry called 91 is after

joe manchin has said that he would try to do it again. we can see the swell of support for beckham checks around the country. i think you will see some of the republicans falloff. she has steadfastly refused to change her position. it is an open question whether that could lead to her defeat four years from now. >> she has a six-year term. and, maxrget her baucus, mark begich. perhaps he is on the fence. >> now that max baucus is not running now, perhaps he will change his mind. >> he has made it clear to them that he is not. their problem is not necessarily republican but their own party. have at of all, you story that scott brown is considering moving to new hampshire to run against jean shaheen, which tells you something about the republicans. karl rove recommended this strategy in "mall street journal" on thursday. this has been fiercely covered, she has a lot of coverage, probably more adverse coverage man kelly has ever sustained before. she has seen to lose her stride a couple of times with that kind of scrutiny. we only have the n

people like joe manchin. manchin in counties that obama lost by 50 points. joe manchin there after lost, still working on it. >> he was on here still working. you get the last word. thanks. >>> chris hayes is next.

people like joe manchin. virginia with joe manchin in counties that obama lost by 50 points. joe manchin there after lost, still working on it. >> he was on here still working. you get the last word. thanks. >>> beach boys. let's play "hardball." >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with this. the late chicago mayor richard daley once said good government is good politics. watch new jersey governor chris christie in action, better yet watch his work for new jersey by working relations with president obama. in an era when so many elected officials have forgotten the power of positive politics. christie knows politicians are

yes or no on manchin toomey? and we know what that means. manchin and toomey are senators.. she obviously didn't have the answer right there. she wasn't exactly sure. rookie mistake? look. i don't think -- at this late date anybody is going to give her a hard time. this is a great race because you have two underdogs. if you like underdogs and i think everybody likes underdogs in politics, you have two underdogs going against each other. this late date i don't think anybody cares about that little slip. i think she is slipping in the polls somewhat because she has disappointed her democratic base by trying to reach out and seem a little more conservative right at the end. i don't think anybody is going to -- >> hard to win as a progressive in south carolina. whoever wins is renting the seat. because the next -- >> there is another election come november. >> you bet. >>> ahead on "the lead" can't bill clinton do one public event without getting a question about hillary clinton running for president? no. the answer is no. what is the former president saying about his life's wi

i think if you look back at those days manchin and toomey literally got the deal together and they only a few days before it went to the vote. they had no time to twist arms and sit down. you saw, you know, senator toomey going out everywhere saying i don't see this as gun control. i am a gun rights advocate. i have a good rating with the nra. i am a concerned republican. i don't see this as gun control. many of the conversations can take place quietly and slowly over time and i do believe that they can make some head way. with vice president biden saying we can do this this year, with all of the polling showing people who voted to support expanded background checks doing well and those against doing poorly and the fact senator manchin twoonts rework it i think will push the coalition to try to bring something up too soon and i don't think they're going to make it the second time. this is a very long marathon and they need to model the efforts of the nra, separate the nra leadership from the membership. they can be as aggressively organized as the gun rights advocates and until then the

senator joeinia manchin sits down with margaret carlson of bloomberg news to talk about the prospects for -- the event was hosted by the aspen institute. it is 25 minutes. , hassrupting the senate's -- with joe manchin the third, moderated by margaret carlson, columnist at bloomberg news. [applause] >> good morning. i have with me the entrepreneur of the senate. that is an oxymoron, i know. senator mention rides motorcycles, he haunts as a member of the nra, but he has emerged as the person leading the fight for gun-control in the senate, voting against what you might think the senator from west virginia might do. [applause] before i get into the politics inside the senate in washington, i want to travel for a moment back in time to this past weekend. you or a member of the nra. the nra had a highly publicized ,eeting this week in houston and which glenn beck gave the keynote. i would put him at the top of my do not sell to list if i were doing background checks. [laughter] as a member, just tell me what display andof their of the nra as an opponent. >> first of all, let me thank all

did that start prior to manchin and toomey getting together? or after the defeat? >> it started prior and it was a big part of the reason why there was such unprecedented support in recent years for this legislation. you know, why six a-rated nra senators actually listened to their constituents. but it's definitely been amped up since the vote, and you know, it shows what a watershed moment -- i was actually in the chambers with sarah brady, who, you know, was there the first time around for the passage of the brady bill, that the president was talking about. you know, she turned to me immediately after, kind of partially consoling me, saying you know, dan, sometimes it takes a good defeat and that's really what's happened. because it shined a light on the elected officials who were not representing the american public and the very folks that we need to hold accountable and since the vote, we have put more than 20,000 calls in to the senate and now we're starting to do it while the house is back in their districts this week, flooding calls into there, making the vo

people like joe manchin. i was in deepest west virginia with joe manchin in counties that obama lost by 50 points. joe manchin there after lost, still working on it. >> he was on here still working. you get the last word. thanks. >>> chris hayes is next. his personal concern and compassion for the state and people of our state. >> the governor's open embrace of the president six days before the election angered the party, not as much as when christie called a press conference january 2nd for the purpose of eviscerating house republicans for stalling on sandy. >> there's only one to blame for the continued suffering of the innocent victims. the house majority and their speaker, john boehner. it was disappointing and disgusting to watch. >> those would be iconic moments between the president and chris christie and house republicans. they reflected a pivot for christie, and effective at that. he gave a keynote at the republican national convention. his approval rating since then, he went from 56% approval in mid

. >> that's why senator joe manchin, who co sponsored the original background check bill -- >> manchin-toomey rewrite. >> has vowed to reintroduce it. >> i'm going to debate anybody on this issue. >> what is wrong with universal background checks. >> new hampshire senator kelley ayotte. >> one of the heroes who voted to block the gun bill. >> against expanded background checks. >> having to answer for her vote. >> kelly ayotte experienced a 15-point slide. >> senator toomey has seen a significant bump. >> this expanded background check was supported. >> the american people are for background checks. >> what happened here was not a policy position. >> we know that america is divided. >> divided government is a recipe for gridlock. >> you're there for certain reasons. if you cannot come to terms, i'm not sure why you're in office. >> come on. >> you don't miss it at all, do you? >> i don't. >> yeah. >> not one minute. >>> united states senators who voted against the modest bipartisan legislation to expand background checks are finding out firsthand from voters that it is not over. new hampshire

. >> i would like to thank you, so much for your vote on the manchin/toomey background check. >> so if the fear-mongering isn't as effective as it was once, what is the nra to do? no doubt this weekend's conference will leave the gun lobby feeling emboldened. it is worth noting the guys on the other side of the aisle is feeling pretty confident, too. >> the last time we had major gun legislation it took six, seven, eight tries to get passed. things happen somewhat slowly in washington. but this is just the first round. >> joining me today, senior national correspondent for bloomberg business week, josh greene. national political reporter at the "washington post," nia malika henderson. political editor and white house correspondent for the the "huffington post" and an msnbc contributor, sam stein, and editor in chief of buzz feed, ben smith. josh, i want to ask you first, working as you do for bloomberg news, emphasis on the bloomberg. michael tomasky says effectively the vote hardly, a blow to president obama or the democratic party, it accomplished a lot, he writes. it pulled a few br

liz: month after month let's show what you saw as you could see way back i think there were 168 manchinary 181 let's go forward now let 762 mentions then you see the exponential job, a 2,984 but now 29,600 manchin so what does that mean and how you invest around that information? >> it is very interesting. there is two ways to look at it and one is it could simply be people who listening and hearing about the potential bubble in the market and commenting but it could also be something more substantial and it could genuinely be people in the industry starting to get concerned about the economy and we could see substantial correction soon. liz: market sentiment is powerful when the herd cats scared of moves quickly so give us an example of previous situations and how you invested around that to make money. >> generally this little piece of work was more a general analysis but our firm acumen of antiquity use social media data then look for specific bits of news and information posted on twitter by regular people for those who see or hear something then we filter this information in realti

>> well one of the things they can do is if they have a representative who voted for the manchin-toomeyhey have a representative who didn't, they can call them and say, "would you mind telling me why?" the president has said it at least half a dozen times now. nothing is going to change until the people demand it. until the people ask for it. >> he said that on december 16th to us -- >> he did, he did. >> to us. and the people, the senators who voted against it, one of the things they said in their defense was, "well, it was a three to one call from constituents who did not support this bill." >> or four to one, or six to one. >> you know. >> right. >> and so they were listening to those phone calls. so i would say, you know, get on the phone. if you support background checks and you support your senator to vote for that. >> we know how well financed, we know how well organized, and we know how effective the other side of this particular part of this debate is. so it's an uphill struggle. there's no denying that. but does that mean it's not worth doing? >> all right, david. suppose that

the only senator in new england, including sue collins who voted against the manchin/toomey backgroundheck first ayotte tried to rationalize it, it was too much of a burden on gun -- gun owners and then there was data that showed that, in fact, 99% of gun owners live within ten miles of a licensed dealer where they would get the background check that only takes 90 seconds. then the senator said well the problem was it would create a registry, but as you know in the toomey/manchin bill, it makes it a felony punishable by something like 15 years in jail. >> nobody is buying it in new hampshire. there's been editorials seeing through this. people who are felons can't by guns. >> john feinblatt, chief policy adviser to mayor bloomberg. nice to have you here. >> thank you very much. >>> all right. in space, no one can hear you sing mostly. hold on. that's next. where is flo? anybody know where flo is? are you flo? yes. is this the thing you gave my husband? well, yeah, yes. the "name your price" tool. you tell us the price you want to pay, and we give you a range of options to choose from.

she voted against the manchin/toomey bill. you'd think she'd be safe in terms of this. today she was confronted by a relative, a daughter of one of the victims up at sandy hook. erica lafferty lost her mother, the principal of the school. listen to this exchange. >> you had mentioned that day, the burden on owners of gun stores that the expended background checks would cause. i'm just wondering why the burden of my mother being gunned down in the halls of her elementary school isn't as important as that? why is that not something that can be supported? >> erica, certainly let me just say that i'm obviously so sorry, and as everyone here, no matter what our views are, for what you have been through. and i think that ultimately when we look at what happened in sandy hook, i understand that's what drove this whole discussion. all of us want to make sure that that doesn't happen again. >> wonder what she meant by that. >> well, i mean -- >> what did senator ayotte mean when she said, i hope it doesn't happen again, and there's a daughter of one of the prime victims. >> what

. >> i would like to thank you so much for the vote on the manchin/toomey background checks. >> that'sricans stand now on guns. that's why the far right is far from over, far from over is this fight gns the far right on this issue and that's why president obama is vowing to push the background checks. joining me now, melissa harris-perry. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> melissa, aren't we seeing the disconnect between the nra and the allies in congress with the american people? >> yeah, it's kind of stunning. certainly at this point it's official officially puzzling. you have to be able to assume that you can predict the actions of members of the house of representatives or of the senate on a very simple equation. if they think doing something will get them re-elected, then that is what they will do. it's pretty simple. so we just have to figure out what kind of district is this person in and it's less about ideology and their own job preservation. in this case, you repeatedly have people with these pro nra fights against what seems to be against the interest o

well, let me say pat too maniy, the senator from pennsylvania, did a yeoman's job >> jon: he and joe manchinse bill. >> really the american people are for background checks. they are >> jon: like 90%. ( cheers and applause ) >> jon: right but he has come out and said, if that dictate had not gone out from senator mcconnell, more of his colleagues would have voted for it. some of them believe in background checks but they didn't want to give obama a victory. and hassles said if the n.r.a. didn't score it, they would have had 70 votes instead of 54. >> well, the latter thing that you have said is probably more a reason. i don't think mitch mcconnell put out a dictate of how you should vote on this. i think it was... >> jon: hasn't that book come out though mcconnell, you guys were at a retreat. i think you were still in the senate. you were probably there and he said we're not going to cooperate with this administration. we're not going to give them any bipartisan victory. even a senator went on record at that meeting at the library of congress. you guys were in the basement of the library of

that's why senator joe manchin who cosponsored the original background check bill has vowed to reintroduce it all on the flimsy excuse that over 90% of americans want it. making it slightly more popular than nacho cheese and reach-arounds. not to mention nacho reach-arounds. which incidentally is the worst doritos flavor ever. obviously, those of us who oppose background checks could argue our case again. but our case has one weakness. >> there were no coherent arguments as to why we wouldn't do this. >> stephen: fine. then what about incoherent arguments like background checks will lead to a gun registry as of a lot by big foot and the illuminate to replace the pope with that dog from the bush's baked beans commercial. but luckily there's a way we can defeat the forces of "doing something." and it brings us to tonight's word. ( cheers and applause ). n.r.a.-vana. nation, on my very first broadcast of this show i coined the word truthiness to describe the natural human desire to ignore facts and to go with what you feel in your gut. and truthiness works. after all, i won a pulitzer for it.

democratic senator joe manchin of west virginia is reintroducing a bill requiring background checks for gun buyers at gun shows and online. he sponsored a previous version of the bill which failed in the senate last mount. thelooking at business news, ending meansoughs mean your delays for travelers. >> and linda bell joins us from bloomberg headquarters with that and more. good thursday morning. >> president obama began experiencing the effects of the sequester yesterday. the first wave of white house furloughs did tin-tin. jay carney says all the non commission staff will miss one workday unpaid. commissioned officers will have to take a pay cut. jay carney says the spending cuts affects each and every one of the white house employees. ending the furloughs of air traffic controllers, it takes $250 million away from funding for airport construction projects. that includes work for safety improvements and pavement repairs. shows unemployment fraud costs the government $3.3 billion in 2011. this comes as money was paid to people no longer alive or even in jail. in large share went to peo

joe manchin talking about a second effort. how does this happen? how does this get done?ee a major grassroots strategy. what we see happening, everyone who voted against it is suffering and they're going to continue to suffer. as you see parent and victims and anyone who has suffered because of gun violence in this country, they're going to go after members of congress who voted no and we'll see a critical mass and that is what will do the job. it's impossible to look at the images of all the people that have been slaughtered over the last few years in the united states and not say as a member of the american public, how could you vote no. >> kelly ayotte in new hampshire, she does this, she wants to hit every county in her state and no surprise that people from out of state came to speak to her, as well. here's part of her conversation from just a couple days ago from some people upset with her decision. take a listen. >> i really don't understand. it doesn't make sense to me. what is wrong with universal background checks? >> thank you. i have a lot of concerns about th

. >> jon: these guys get there, you get manchin from west virginia and too maniy from wherever the hell that guy is from. >> pennsylvania jon: they ghettoing and do a bipartisan background check amendment. they say they've got 70 senators lined up. the n.r.a. says they're going to score it. that drops to 54. 54 is still a majority. it gets defeated because of the silliness of the filibuster. >> but let's go back. 90% of the american people supported that initiative, right? >> jon: yes. okay. and so 10% opposed it. was the 10% louder than the 90%? that's the problem. we've all got to speak up. that's why making sure this... >> jon: you don't people spoke up about background checks? >> no. calling members of congress and making sure they hear from those 90%. >> jon: they don't answer our call. they only answer the n.r.a.'s. ( cheers and applause ) >> and you've got to make sure. that's why i wrote this book. you've got to make sure so that you can reinforce those voices and back them up. you had a rally "restore sanity." >> jon: yeah, that worked. that lasted 15 minutes. >> jon, do it aga

the only senator in new england, including sue collins who voted against the manchin/toomey background ayotte tried to rationalize it, it was too much of a burden on gun -- gun owners and then there was data that showed that, in fact, 99% of gun owners live within ten miles of a licensed dealer where they would get the background check that only takes 90 seconds. then the senator said well the problem was it would create a registry, but as you know in the toomey/manchin bill, it makes it a felony punishable by something like 15 years in jail. >> nobody is buying it in new hampshi hampshire. there's been ed toitorials seei through this. people who are felons can't by guns. >> mayors against illegal guns. thank you for being here. it's nice to have you here. >> thank you. : all right. in space no one can hear you sing mostly. that's next. [ male announcer ] this is george. the day building a play set begins with a surprise twinge of back pain... and a choice. take up to 4 advil in a day or 2 aleve for all day relief. [ male announcer ] that's handy. ♪ but with advair, i'm breathing bette

i'm going to beat joe manchin up because he didn't vote the way he should have voted?i'm going to beat this so and so senator up. or would you go and say i'm going to appeal to the law-abide withing gun owners in the state to understand this was the best piece of legislation that made all the sense in the world and give me enough support for my constituents that i don't have to do happened-to-hand combat with that you're helping me. because if you want to defeat me, i'm not up until 2014. beat me up then. try to convince me to change now. i already made, right, wrong or indifferent, i already made the vote. you're going to keep me down and hunker down and double down, or are you going to give me a chance to make a change? if you can't change your mind, you can't change anything. but sometimes you have got to give me a little bit of leeway to make your change, and that's what we're trying to do right now. >> yesterday senator reid said he might bring the bill up again. >> oh, it's coming back. >> now, but your colleague, senator path toomey, said he was with you, you ha

the toomey/manchin bill that didn't pass is the bare minimum of gun control. but people are sending people like this crazy person over the edge, because in part, you have to look at the rhetoric. war rhetoric. the new president of the nra bringing up the war, quote unquote of northern aggression. saying essentially that barack obama, the president, is an enemy of freedom, enemy of the constitution. this kind of rhetoric can only make crazy people crazier. >> well, ej, one thing that the author of the letters is saying, in effect, is, based on the lies that i have heard from people like wayne lapierre, this is what i will do in reaction to the lies that i have heard. >> right. i mean, i think joy made an important point, first, that the rhetoric they're using is totally disproportionate. it's basically a straight-out lie to say that a background check bill is going to confiscate anybody's gun, except it will keep it out of the hands of criminals. and secondly, she mentioned the civil war, and how some of that rhetoric is getting in there. i happen to be reading

this is indicating that maybe the manchin/toomey rewrite might get somewhere. >> i know from talking to sources that joe manchin has been working the phones, the west virginia democrat who has been a big part of trying to get people like kelly ayotte to support not universal, but expanded background checks, only covering those commercial sales, not individual sales, he's still working it, even though it is effectively dead at the moment in terms of legislation. could it come back? his goal is to have a vote before august, that's a big, big ask. because of all the other things they have to do. what i love about what we're seeing in these town hall meetings is that it's real voters, real people. people who are passionate about issues. on either side who get to come and ask their senator a question. and so she's taking some questions, she took some heat yesterday, she's done over her career, about two dozen of these in the time she's been in the senate. and she's having to answer for her vote. she's gotten some support, some who say what she's done is not enough. talking to some of the

the only senator in new england, including sue collins who voted against the manchin/toomey background first ayotte tried to rationalize it, it was too much of a burden on gun -- gun owners and then there was data that showed that, in fact, 99% of gun owners live within ten miles of a licensed dealer where they would get the background check that only takes 90 seconds. the senator said we problem was it would create a registry, but as you know in the toomey/manchin bill, it makes it a fact, it makes it a felony punishable by 15 years in jail, so it was very disappointing she voted against it. but what was shocking was that now she's saying that by voting for the grassley cruz amendment, she voted to fix background checks, now the nra is running ads like senator rubio saying she fixed it, it did nothing to fix it. >> that's like telling the neilson company you're watching the rachel maddow show and getting credit for watching sean hannity. a different ball of wax. >> nobody is buying it i think in new hampshire. within the past couple days, there have been editorials in the paper all se