corner of lake shore and mandana. i'm soon to begin my 30th year there. >> you just a little longevity. >> and dale has had a change. >> after five great years at good samaritan united methodist church in kuiperty cupertino, i am moving churches. >> i mentioned to you earlier, i had you here as guests before, but i never asked you about your families. so, give a shout out to your families and let the thousands of people who get up at 5:00 in the morning, who might know you, but might not know your families. >> karen hopkins. karen and i have been married 39 years here. we have three adult children and four grandsons. and one of the great sadnesses in our life this year was our daughter and son-in-law and two of our grandsons left us and moved to oregon. >> you just came back. >> went up to visit them and had a memorial service for my father-in-law who passed away. >> i've been married to debbie weatherspoon for 19 1/2 years. she's also a united methodist clergy person and we have two sons. justice in middle school and